All About Autism
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tyeogh:
Measles jab is mandatory in Singapore. U can opt to take the 3 jabs separately or wait till your child is older. I waited until HPB sent me warning letter that if I still don't send, I might get fined. Lol.Hi ImMeeMee
My 3 NT kids took MMR and nothing happened. My last kid was about to take MMR when he was struck with chicken pox. At about the same time, we noticed the ASD traits. So, yes, if we had an option, we will opt not to have chicken pox. :rotflmao:
I like what Couragemom wrote about exercising your choice. Nobody on planet earth can force your child to take MMR if you are against it. -
alibaba:
I think it brings closure. U stop wondering what's wrong with my kid.Hi parents,
I have little knowledge on autism. My boy is suspected to be autistic by the doctors & recommend me to go for the assessment. But I didn't. I asked a few parents who put their kids for it & their feedback are the assessment confirmed their kids as autistic but it does not indicate how severe is the child's conditions. To me, I see my boy as normal but with development delays (maybe 1yr) as compared to his peer. All the lacked skills for his appropriate age seems to be overcome subsequently when he is much older.
The major doctor merely got my child to do the same thing (which he already knew how to do it at much younger age), to write A-Z & draws some lines on both appointments (about 6 months apart). She even asked me if I have ever cross my mind to consider pathlight school! I suppose such school should reserve for those who need it more?! The main issue is his social skill as addressed by the professionals. My only concern is my child be bullied or taken advantage of by others as he is a kind being.
Any parents here have similar issue as me?
My question is - how will labeling the child helps?
Even with assessment, you can choose whether or not to divulge it to the school. If u don't wish to, they will not know. But with an assessment, it can help teachers on how to manage your child rather than complaining about your child's behavior. I find it beneficial for my son coz even when he does absurd stuff in school, I don't get called up. His teachers are also more understanding. -
Hi Mashy,
Great to see you post on the thread again! You MIA for awhile and I thought I won’t ‘see’ you here again.
Hi parents,
So happy to announce that my son can properly hold a cup and drink from it without spilling and choking on the water. Haiz… Happy with tinge of sadness about how something we take for granted for our NT kid become a milestone celebration for our special darlings.
My next target - getting my son to rinse and spit out the water during brush teeth time. He tried to imitate his sister but he cannot spit out but swallow the water instead. Any advice? -
Couragemom:
Hi Mashy,
Great to see you post on the thread again! You MIA for awhile and I thought I won't 'see' you here again.
Hi parents,
So happy to announce that my son can properly hold a cup and drink from it without spilling and choking on the water. Haiz... Happy with tinge of sadness about how something we take for granted for our NT kid become a milestone celebration for our special darlings.
My next target - getting my son to rinse and spit out the water during brush teeth time. He tried to imitate his sister but he cannot spit out but swallow the water instead. Any advice?
Hi courage mom
Haha. Ya, been a pretty long time away.
Try spitting game? Give him a target to spit at. Like paste a sticker in the sink and get him to spit onto it. Can he blow bubbles? -
Hi parents,
Yesterday I was greeted by my son's Chinese teacher at the door (bad sign!!!) when I went to fetch him and she told me that during the music and movement time, my son went to hug one of his girl classmates then after that he went to hug another girl classmate, she resisted and pushed him away and he slapped her. Both cried and the teacher told my son to apologize which he did.
Today during circle time, he went to hug his boy classmate sitting beside him and opened his mouth wide (like want to bite into an apple expression) but got stopped in time by the teacher. Do you all ever had such experience b4? It is a very new behavior for my son so I am like hmm??!!!??? In my mind I am thinking 'is my son trying to be friendly or nasty???'
For the 1st time yesterday, he also managed to greet his 2 buddies with the right names in his social group without prompting and he interacted well with them even though it was only his 5th session with them. The Sped teacher said he spontaneously gave toys to them and my jaws almost dropped to the floor when I heard that. Then at the playground yesterday night, he saw a little girl walked away and he said 'meimei go home. Bye bye mei mei' and waved to her twice.
So my gut feel is that my dear son is finally aware that the little people around him are his peers and playmates. But then he isn't really very sure how to interact with them thus the slapping and biting. What do you all think?
It could be what you have said that he is not aware of the social rules and norms. Things we take it for granted like taking turn, not standing too close to others and greeting in appropriate manner need to be taught for our kids. However it could be a sensory thing where they need the sensory input and because of the inability to control their impulse, they hug the others. So it is hard for me to say what is really the case.
If it is really not knowing how to interact with the peers, teach him how to but the child may be confuse why he can hug and kiss you but yet not to his peers. You can do this exercise known as \"social circle\". I am not so sure if you can google how to teach this. I can give you a brief description here.
Draw out a many rims of circle. Write the child name in the inner most rim and label that as family. Followed by relatives, good friends, friends, people I know, strangers. (The label of the rims I have given is just a guide. It depends on the child level of language as well). Then tell you a few names and get him to classify them into those rims. You can have different color for each rim to make it visually more distinct. After doing this, you can communicate to the child that at different rims, you are to behave differently.
Hope this helps
Liyuan
http://www.autismstep.com -
[quote=\"alibaba\"]Hi parents,
I have little knowledge on autism. My boy is suspected to be autistic by the doctors & recommend me to go for the assessment. But I didn't. I asked a few parents who put their kids for it & their feedback are the assessment confirmed their kids as autistic but it does not indicate how severe is the child's conditions. To me, I see my boy as normal but with development delays (maybe 1yr) as compared to his peer. All the lacked skills for his appropriate age seems to be overcome subsequently when he is much older.
The major doctor merely got my child to do the same thing (which he already knew how to do it at much younger age), to write A-Z & draws some lines on both appointments (about 6 months apart). She even asked me if I have ever cross my mind to consider pathlight school! I suppose such school should reserve for those who need it more?! The main issue is his social skill as addressed by the professionals. My only concern is my child be bullied or taken advantage of by others as he is a kind being.
Any parents here have similar issue as me?
My question is - how will labeling the child helps?
Assessment will provide a diagnosis. Assessment gives you a base line of the child. Experienced psychologist will also point out the strength and weakness so that you know where should your program of intervention be focused on. Diagnosis may help you in getting the right intervention for your child. For gov special schools, you require a diagnosis to be enrolled.
Having said that, diagnosis will give the child a label that may limit his life in future, like getting employment and national service etc. I recommend to go ahead with intervention without diagnosis. You don't want to lose this chance of early intervention. Or you can go for assessment with private clinics and records are kept to yourself and in that clinic only.
Hope that helps
Liyuan
http://www.autismstep.com -
Hi Mashy,
Great to see you post on the thread again! You MIA for awhile and I thought I won't 'see' you here again.
Hi parents,
So happy to announce that my son can properly hold a cup and drink from it without spilling and choking on the water. Haiz... Happy with tinge of sadness about how something we take for granted for our NT kid become a milestone celebration for our special darlings.
My next target - getting my son to rinse and spit out the water during brush teeth time. He tried to imitate his sister but he cannot spit out but swallow the water instead. Any advice?
Below are some suggestions:
1. Model it to him (which I believe your daughter has already done)
2. Practice with him in front of the mirror. Sometimes it helps in getting the child to look at himself and his mouth movement
3. Gently pressing against his cheek to force out the water and paired it with an instruction. Eg press against his cheeks and when water flow out of his mouth, say \"spit\". So this will help him associate the word with the action. We usually give the instruction first and then get the child to perform the action. However in this case as we do not want the child to think that \"spit\" means pressing against the mouth.
P/s: as I do not know the functioning level of your child, this suggestion may seem too primitive for him
Hope this helps
Liyuan
http://www.autismstep.com -
Liyuan:
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Assessment will provide a diagnosis. Assessment gives you a base line of the child. Experienced psychologist will also point out the strength and weakness so that you know where should your program of intervention be focused on. Diagnosis may help you in getting the right intervention for your child. For gov special schools, you require a diagnosis to be enrolled.mashy:
[quote=\"alibaba\"]Hi parents,
I have little knowledge on autism. My boy is suspected to be autistic by the doctors & recommend me to go for the assessment. But I didn't. I asked a few parents who put their kids for it & their feedback are the assessment confirmed their kids as autistic but it does not indicate how severe is the child's conditions. To me, I see my boy as normal but with development delays (maybe 1yr) as compared to his peer. All the lacked skills for his appropriate age seems to be overcome subsequently when he is much older.
The major doctor merely got my child to do the same thing (which he already knew how to do it at much younger age), to write A-Z & draws some lines on both appointments (about 6 months apart). She even asked me if I have ever cross my mind to consider pathlight school! I suppose such school should reserve for those who need it more?! The main issue is his social skill as addressed by the professionals. My only concern is my child be bullied or taken advantage of by others as he is a kind being.
Any parents here have similar issue as me?
My question is - how will labeling the child helps?
Having said that, diagnosis will give the child a label that may limit his life in future, like getting employment and national service etc. I recommend to go ahead with intervention without diagnosis. You don't want to lose this chance of early intervention. Or you can go for assessment with private clinics and records are kept to yourself and in that clinic only.
Hope that helps
Liyuan
http://www.autismstep.com
Actually even with public hospitals, your records are kept confidential. They will only release your child's info if you agree by signing a form. So don't think that they will just release to everyone and anyone just like that. Even within KKH, they don't share files. So whatever that is in CDU is kept within CDU. They don't share it with the other departments. I know coz my son has a chunky common file which they need to transfer every time he sees a doctor/ therapist from rehab whereas the CDU has another smaller file.
Unless someone shows me proof how labeling a kid in the hospital will lead to him having problems in getting employment, I don't believe so. It is not the label that affects employment, it is the behavior during interview that affects. Employers don't get confidential info from the hospital as far as I know. So even without a diagnosis, if your child displays very obvious autistic characteristics when seeking employment, his employment issues will be affected. Having a diagnosis or not is secondary. But the difference between having a diagnosis or not will affect how the teachers discipline them in school. If he is viewed as a naughty child, he will be more severely punished than if he is diagnosed. The teachers will then have to find other ways to teach him because they know that it isn't because of rebelliousness or 'naughtiness', it's just because he doesn't know how to act.
That's my take after watching my child and others in primary school. His 'suspected ADHD' schoolmate was suspended for violence and bad behavior in school. The teachers tried to get the parents to diagnose him but they kept delaying. I think if he had indeed been diagnosed, and the teachers know that there is intervention, I'm sure he won't have been suspended. My kid was let go even when he showed off his private parts! The teacher just pulled him aside and told him it isn't appropriate behavior. And they allowed him to chill off (don't need to pay attention in class and read his own books) when he had too much stuff overwhelming him. They don't kick a big fuss because he walked around or lie on the chair too.
I feel the labeling only affects in kindy/childcare because the teachers there aren't trained. And likely they will just reject you to save themselves any trouble. Unless of course if u meet some super nice teachers and principal. -
[quote=\"mashy\"][quote=\"alibaba\"]Hi parents,
I have little knowledge on autism. My boy is suspected to be autistic by the doctors & recommend me to go for the assessment. But I didn't. I asked a few parents who put their kids for it & their feedback are the assessment confirmed their kids as autistic but it does not indicate how severe is the child's conditions. To me, I see my boy as normal but with development delays (maybe 1yr) as compared to his peer. All the lacked skills for his appropriate age seems to be overcome subsequently when he is much older.
The major doctor merely got my child to do the same thing (which he already knew how to do it at much younger age), to write A-Z & draws some lines on both appointments (about 6 months apart). She even asked me if I have ever cross my mind to consider pathlight school! I suppose such school should reserve for those who need it more?! The main issue is his social skill as addressed by the professionals. My only concern is my child be bullied or taken advantage of by others as he is a kind being.
Any parents here have similar issue as me?
My question is - how will labeling the child helps?
Assessment will provide a diagnosis. Assessment gives you a base line of the child. Experienced psychologist will also point out the strength and weakness so that you know where should your program of intervention be focused on. Diagnosis may help you in getting the right intervention for your child. For gov special schools, you require a diagnosis to be enrolled.
Having said that, diagnosis will give the child a label that may limit his life in future, like getting employment and national service etc. I recommend to go ahead with intervention without diagnosis. You don't want to lose this chance of early intervention. Or you can go for assessment with private clinics and records are kept to yourself and in that clinic only.
Hope that helps
Liyuan
http://www.autismstep.com[/quote]
Actually even with public hospitals, your records are kept confidential. They will only release your child's info if you agree by signing a form. So don't think that they will just release to everyone and anyone just like that. Even within KKH, they don't share files. So whatever that is in CDU is kept within CDU. They don't share it with the other departments. I know coz my son has a chunky common file which they need to transfer every time he sees a doctor/ therapist from rehab whereas the CDU has another smaller file.
Unless someone shows me proof how labeling a kid in the hospital will lead to him having problems in getting employment, I don't believe so. It is not the label that affects employment, it is the behavior during interview that affects. Employers don't get confidential info from the hospital as far as I know. So even without a diagnosis, if your child displays very obvious autistic characteristics when seeking employment, his employment issues will be affected. Having a diagnosis or not is secondary. But the difference between having a diagnosis or not will affect how the teachers discipline them in school. If he is viewed as a naughty child, he will be more severely punished than if he is diagnosed. The teachers will then have to find other ways to teach him because they know that it isn't because of rebelliousness or 'naughtiness', it's just because he doesn't know how to act.
That's my take after watching my child and others in primary school. His 'suspected ADHD' schoolmate was suspended for violence and bad behavior in school. The teachers tried to get the parents to diagnose him but they kept delaying. I think if he had indeed been diagnosed, and the teachers know that there is intervention, I'm sure he won't have been suspended. My kid was let go even when he showed off his private parts! The teacher just pulled him aside and told him it isn't appropriate behavior. And they allowed him to chill off (don't need to pay attention in class and read his own books) when he had too much stuff overwhelming him. They don't kick a big fuss because he walked around or lie on the chair too.
I feel the labeling only affects in kindy/childcare because the teachers there aren't trained. And likely they will just reject you to save themselves any trouble. Unless of course if u meet some super nice teachers and principal.[/quote]
I think it is hard to get any proof unless some research has been done and journal articles been written. All these comments are just feedback from parents that form part of the sample size.
Declaration of medical records and history are necessary for many big companies. Behaviors during interview certainly plays a part. That is in fact one of the first time we could help the child with before even sending him or her for open employment. It is more of the belief that someone with a diagnosis of autism may exhibit out of norm behavior. Often I also hear from parents that even if they do get open employment, their wage are lower than industry standards.
Teachers may find other ways to deal with the child and if there is a special aid teacher in the sch, they will refer to him or her. I also have seen teachers that give up and leave the child as he is.
I agree very much to this where they may decide to reject your application altogether if they know about the diagnosis. Given that the new DSM 5 allows earlier diagnosis, more children may be diagnosis at a younger age and child are may get to know during enrollment. For now I believe singapore is still using DSM 4. -
Issue is -
during interview, do you want to tell interviewers that you are autistic ?
(for children autistic, applying for jobs)
If dont’t tell them, can’t be honest up front during job interview, got the job but later in the midst of carrying out job duties and one day unknowingly displayed inherent autistic characteristics at work on more than one occassion and employers somehow suspect, what happen next ? Only there and then, tell them the truth ?
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