Secondary School CCA
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Heard some of the CCAs need parents to co-pay, as high as $600 per year. Any parents come across this in govt or indpt schools?
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I have never heard of CCAs or schools asking parents to co-pay before. Even for bands where uniforms, instruments, scores are very expensive, schools budget for them and pay for them 100%. If they can't, they make do with lower quality stuff (not necessarily bad quality, just lower) or re-do their budget or find legitimate ways to raise funds.
The only thing that comes to mind where parents were asked to pay is maybe the group needs/wants to go overseas and the cost is very high. Otherwise, no other valid reason I can think of.
Yes, children in schools must do CIP. Do you know that teachers must do CIP too? They can do it together with the students while supervising their CIP or they can do it separately, e.g., \"volunteer\" to provide free services to community like the parents of their students. And if the students cannot fulfill CIP hours, get bad grade. If teachers cannot fulfill CIP hours, they will be due for a \"chat\" with their supervisor. If still cannot or don't want to fulfill CIP hours, then get a bad grade on their work review and this will hinder promotion and pay rise in future.
Yes, life is very tough. In fact, so tough that I personally feel teachers already fulfill their CIP hours everyday when they restrain themselves from putting their murderous thoughts into action concerning recalcitrant students with over-protective, \"in-denial\" parents. :lol: -
Is your school a govt, govt-aided or independent school. My friends’ kids come from a govt-aided primar school, their parents need to co-pay in order to enagage external coach. for certain CCA.
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Zann:
Heard some of the CCAs need parents to co-pay, as high as $600 per year. Any parents come across this in govt or indpt schools?
Just heard from my boy who is in independent school that we have to pay for all the gears required for his cca - softball. And that includes the jersey specially imported from Japan.... shoes.... cap.....i wonder if got to get the bat as well.....
Wow...not cheap ....almost $200... keeping fingers cross that they don't ask me to co pay for the coach's fees....
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Maybe it’s because the gear is customised or personalised? And school will not want to keep this gear after your boy leaves. Anyway, the good thing about this is that you know he will get brand new gear that works and fits properly.
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schellen,
I think you're right cos he told me the head gear he wore during the selection trial stinks.... and almost wanted to back out of the cca even though he was selected ...anyway I'm looking forward to seeing him play his first game..... but for the moment, his first practice was to swing the bat into the air....which lasted 3 hours.... oh mine... :faint: -
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insider:
I wrote in another thread all these CCAs are just hoax - twisted truth under beautiful cover (what CCAs build kids to be more well rounded etc etc).
Majority of kids join CCAs and even those what Community Involvement Programme (CIP) are coz these will give them points into college applications (I asked my daughter. She said her school requires 7 CIP hours per child per year \"But if you want to get more points, then you have to do more lah, such as 100 hours\"). Take away the incentive of using these involvements into college, I wonder whether the CCA and CIP systems will collapse. Such incentives turn kids and parents into very calculative lot but no choice, it's practical (whenever I talk about MOE, I get very boiled...Sigh...)
PS: I have a friend who starts her child from 5 years old on tennis and she is not so much of having sports in mind but have a 'long term view' of her son getting Direct Entry when he grows up... hahaha...
Do you agree children nowadays live in a pressure-cooker-like environment? At my child's CCA talk for parents, the head of CCA actually told us candidly that CCAs in that school are NOT FOR RECREATION! Indirectly, the school is sending out the message that we, as parents, should ensure that our kids are 'competition material'. Stressed....Stressed.....
A CCA in Sports, UG or PA is compulsory. However, the student has to go throuh selection tests to get into any of them.
I am very sad to learn that one of the Sec1 students in a top school had collapsed and passed away over the weekend while undergoing his private sports training. Who knows, he may be pushing himself to train hard for his CCA trial.
Just one or two months ago, it was reported in the Papers that a sec school boy also jumped to his death over disagreement with his parents/teacher regarding his CCA choice!
I hope parents will not push their kids too hard over studies/CCAs. There is more to life than such achievements. I pity the kids nowadys; they face pressure from all sides......not enough sleep, long hours at school, numerous subjects to study, tests/exams/projects, loads of enrichment activities like ballet/piano/swimming&etc...training for CCAs....... :?:
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My son also told me about the boy. He is a top PSLE student in his primary school. Agree with Fairy…Do not push your kids too much on CCAs… The most important thing is that he/she enjoys it.
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Fairy:
...I am very sad to learn that one of the Sec1 students in a top school had collapsed and passed away over the weekend while undergoing his private sports training. Who knows, he may be pushing himself to train hard for his CCA trial.
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It does appear that in our eagerness to ensure our children is prepared for the future, we may have put too much emphasis on instant measurable results rather than fundamental long-term character building and appreciation of life. We want our children to be highly efficient problem-solvers without them really understanding why they have to solve the problems. We demand that they strive for excellence without understanding its potential impact on their lives. Without an anchor, even the best ships will flounder under the smallest storms. Perhaps we should teach our children why life is worth living and fighting for, instead of just living to fight for life. -
ChiefKiasu:
It does appear that in our eagerness to ensure our children is prepared for the future, we may have put too much emphasis on instant measurable results rather than fundamental long-term character building and appreciation of life.
Chief, agree with you totally. I know of kids who have achieved Gold Star awards in swimming by primary three but have never ventured beyond the rectangular swimming pool into the deep blue seas....
Or as in the case of my friend's daughter who after attaining her grade 8 piano (at quite an early age), closed the piano and told the mum, \" I've done whatever you asked me to.... no more piano practice from now on..\"
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