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    Eye Level Education Centre (aka Enopi) - Discussion

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    • M Offline
      Monster Mummy
      last edited by

      Hi MMM,


      I am totally agreed with you as initially, I was wondering whether to let my child to take which course. But i understand from my friend Kumon emphasis on the timing, accuracy and there might be repetitive if children unable to hit their requirement.

      Therefore, I arrange for him to take up the Enopi math. Now he is progressing well in Arithmetic and critical thinking.

      May I know what is the reason for your end to switch to Enopi math.

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        kay22
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        fionong:
        Bowie:

        Hi fionong,


        My 2cts. Phonics and Reading. Today, Maths qn is not purely Maths, Kids have to have good command of language to understand the qn.

        :lol:

        Hi Bowie,

        Thats true. Think I shall let her continue with her Phonic and Reading 1st.

        Hi Hi

        Can I know where do u send your child to Phonics & Reading? 😄

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          MMM
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          For me, it was partially because of KSP. I happened to chance upon some feedback on Enopi and thought it sound interesting. Also, I found Kumon too arithmetic and it neglects the part on critcial thinking maths which is critical in the syllabus today. So I made the switch.


          We never looked back and I was glad this was a right decision in our case. I am not against Kumon. Good for those who are on kumon and doing well in school. But I still find that the being good arithmetically doesn’t mean you can do well in critical thinking maths. Yes, you can do the arithmetic sums faster and accurate but if you can’t solve those critical thinking problems then your scores will still not be good. So yes, Enopi is both arithmetic given that they still have worksheets to complete but they are also trained in the critical thinking part which is crucial.

          Another observation is the worksheets… too many homework for kumon. Daily worksheets, you are good in maths because you keep practising the same thing over and over again. I call it perfection through repetition. Enopi worksheets are more colorful and usually I get the kids to complete their 3 workbooks within 2 evenings.

          Actually, in the centre they go to, there are alot of ex-kumon students as well. The instructor shared with me the common problems with the students are good arithmetically but weak in critical thinking that they must start at low level. Frankly not sure if it is due to my son’s background with kumon, he is still weaker in critical thinking as compared to his siblings who have never done kumon.

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            mwchua
            last edited by

            hi,


            Anyone with kids in Enopi Maths Sengkang or Punggol branch and care to share their feedback?

            Thanks.

            Rgds,
            Ming

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              meiah
              last edited by

              Hi,


              is the program really helpful and can build foundation for concepts? Cos my ds2 rather slow in maths and thinking questions. i think if he were to go, he will start from the lower levels.

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                titank
                last edited by

                MMM:
                For me, it was partially because of KSP. I happened to chance upon some feedback on Enopi and thought it sound interesting. Also, I found Kumon too arithmetic and it neglects the part on critcial thinking maths which is critical in the syllabus today. So I made the switch.


                We never looked back and I was glad this was a right decision in our case. I am not against Kumon. Good for those who are on kumon and doing well in school. But I still find that the being good arithmetically doesn't mean you can do well in critical thinking maths. Yes, you can do the arithmetic sums faster and accurate but if you can't solve those critical thinking problems then your scores will still not be good. So yes, Enopi is both arithmetic given that they still have worksheets to complete but they are also trained in the critical thinking part which is crucial.

                Another observation is the worksheets..... too many homework for kumon. Daily worksheets, you are good in maths because you keep practising the same thing over and over again. I call it perfection through repetition. Enopi worksheets are more colorful and usually I get the kids to complete their 3 workbooks within 2 evenings.

                Actually, in the centre they go to, there are alot of ex-kumon students as well. The instructor shared with me the common problems with the students are good arithmetically but weak in critical thinking that they must start at low level. Frankly not sure if it is due to my son's background with kumon, he is still weaker in critical thinking as compared to his siblings who have never done kumon.
                Hi MMM,

                Agreed that it is important to stick to a program for certain period of time so that can see the result. By the way, Enopi Maths there are total 24 levels to cover when the child reach P6?

                Based on your experience, once the child in P3 the Maths is totally another style as compare when they are in P1 & P2?

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                  constancet
                  last edited by

                  Anyone with kids at Numberlinks Bishan, which teaches Enopi Maths too?

                  I realised that this is not one of the outlets list under the Enopi Maths website.
                  My kid goes to numberlinks, but i am just curious as to what is the difference.

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                    MMM
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                    titank:
                    Based on your experience, once the child in P3 the Maths is totally another style as compare when they are in P1 & P2?[/color]

                    From my observation, it really depends on their foundation. If they are already strong in multiplication and division by P2, actually I feel that P3 is not a big jump.

                    But unlike P1 and P2, children are not expected to score full marks in P3. In some instance, I also heard of children with a drastic drop in scores.

                    But looking at my P3, probably learning in advance does help. It appear more like a natural and smooth progression for her. I just saw her CA paper which she scored 81/100. I dunno what is the top scores and average scores for the paper as they don't publish so I dunno where she stands. Some people say the paper is difficult while I find the paper Ok. I feel that if not for careless mistakes eg. add wrongly so minus 1 mark here and there, never read instruction properly, she could have easily obtained band 1 results. There are some questions where the entire class got it wrong. Mainly those heuristic focus question where no clear numbers are given.

                    For instance, she is now learning about those area and perimeters in Enopi (eg. area of triangle, rectangle, rhombus, parallelogram,etc...) I saw in the P3 text, they only cover the basic area of some shapes. But in Enopi, she is expected to do the calculation and also in some instance calculate the missing height information. With the examples and guidance, she is trying to cope with the questions though it can be daunting at times so we need to guide her alot. But I am sure when she overcomes the topic with better understanding, it'll be a breeze when they do this subject in class later on.

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                      Monster Mummy
                      last edited by

                      Hi Constance,


                      My kid also enrol in numberlinks, i find it quite okay. Basically, i believed that their enopi maths is about the same as other programme. Just that they are also emphasis in the area of analysis maths once they reach P1 or P2 depends on their capability.

                      I am not quite sure the other outlet offer anything outside of Enopi. Initially, I was also enquiry programme from other outlet, but i come upon their website. I just go ahead and have no regret because i felt that children must really enjoy their math and build up their basic foundation else the higher level they go, they might dislike math more if they cannot perform.

                      This is only my thinking at my end.

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                        titank
                        last edited by

                        MMM:
                        titank:

                        Based on your experience, once the child in P3 the Maths is totally another style as compare when they are in P1 & P2?[/color]


                        From my observation, it really depends on their foundation. If they are already strong in multiplication and division by P2, actually I feel that P3 is not a big jump.

                        But unlike P1 and P2, children are not expected to score full marks in P3. In some instance, I also heard of children with a drastic drop in scores.

                        But looking at my P3, probably learning in advance does help. It appear more like a natural and smooth progression for her. I just saw her CA paper which she scored 81/100. I dunno what is the top scores and average scores for the paper as they don't publish so I dunno where she stands. Some people say the paper is difficult while I find the paper Ok. I feel that if not for careless mistakes eg. add wrongly so minus 1 mark here and there, never read instruction properly, she could have easily obtained band 1 results. There are some questions where the entire class got it wrong. Mainly those heuristic focus question where no clear numbers are given.

                        For instance, she is now learning about those area and perimeters in Enopi (eg. area of triangle, rectangle, rhombus, parallelogram,etc...) I saw in the P3 text, they only cover the basic area of some shapes. But in Enopi, she is expected to do the calculation and also in some instance calculate the missing height information. With the examples and guidance, she is trying to cope with the questions though it can be daunting at times so we need to guide her alot. But I am sure when she overcomes the topic with better understanding, it'll be a breeze when they do this subject in class later on.


                        So generally in P1 & P2 is quite a norm for them to score 100% in Maths.Once they have reach P3 we would see a drastic drop in the marks?Something like 80-85?

                        Maybe would consider join Enopi Maths so that can be fully prepared when they hit P3.

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