2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS
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Hi,bekithia,
I still don’t agree your point. If mt is important for Chinese. If children don’t study hard for Chinese at their early stage, when they grow up, they did not know how to write the Chinese, they can not read Chinese newspaper, if there is job opportunity in china, they can not go. A lot of parents even written to moe to complain that Chinese language is too hard to learn, so teacher can not ask pupil to write more during class. If parents still keep doing that, it is not good for child growing up. Primary school students have more time compare to secondary school, even they have less homework in Chinese, they did not improve their grades for other subjects as well. They spend too much time on whatapp, Internet , Facebook such things.
Learning language is not easy to learn compare to other subjects, we need spend more time on.
I experienced this myself. As my younger one is not good in Chinese language. The only thing I want her to do is rewrite all the Chinese word this year during school holiday. I hope she can understand better in Chinese. She don’t even read finishing one Chinese novel.
The word need to memories at least write 5 times. I did those test on my child.
Learning is all the hard working, there is no shortcut for that. 俗话说：一份耕耘，一份收获。 -
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How come your 4 As and 1 S paper distinctions can get into Cambridge while my 4 As and 2 S paper distinctions cannot?
Let me rephrase the question about abolishing the T-score then. Why is it a problem for selection of secondary school but not a problem for selection of university or any other higher level of educational institution?
There seems to be an assumption here that every point in the T-score should carry the same weight, so that 274 must necessarily be better than 273, which in turn must necessarily be better than 272 and so on and so forth. This is a very one dimensional way of looking at things. -
alng:
We have three national exams in Singapore but the PSLE is the most stressful. This is because everyone sitting for the PSLE has the same aim of getting into a good secondary school.
Whereas for O and A levels, the candidates have different goals. Some people aim for JC while some people aim for Poly. At A levels, there are different Universities with different programmes. Unlike PSLE, everyone has the same aim.
Didnt our Ministers say ALL SCHOOLS are GOOD??? :evil:
PSLE parents are stressed becos they want their kids to go to the BEST SCHOOLS, namely RGS/RI/HCI/NYGS/NJC etc (as I observed from KSP postings).
O levels is also the same - everyone wants to go to the BEST JC - RJC/VJC/HCI/NJC.
A levels is also the same - everyone wants to to go to the BEST U - NUS/NTU - most affordable n highly rated.
So stress is not just at PSLE. Its stress all the way until you complete your education in Singapore.
This is my humble opinion. -
gardenia64:
I agreed as currently I also enforcing this method on my children.Hi,bekithia,
I still don't agree your point. If mt is important for Chinese. If children don't study hard for Chinese at their early stage, when they grow up, they did not know how to write the Chinese, they can not read Chinese newspaper, if there is job opportunity in china, they can not go. A lot of parents even written to moe to complain that Chinese language is too hard to learn, so teacher can not ask pupil to write more during class. If parents still keep doing that, it is not good for child growing up. Primary school students have more time compare to secondary school, even they have less homework in Chinese, they did not improve their grades for other subjects as well. They spend too much time on whatapp, Internet , Facebook such things.
Learning language is not easy to learn compare to other subjects, we need spend more time on.
I experienced this myself. As my younger one is not good in Chinese language. The only thing I want her to do is rewrite all the Chinese word this year during school holiday. I hope she can understand better in Chinese. She don't even read finishing one Chinese novel.
The word need to memories at least write 5 times. I did those test on my child.
Learning is all the hard working, there is no shortcut for that. 俗话说：一份耕耘，一份收获。 -
My daughter scored band 1 for all subjects except for MT. While the option proposed by bekithia appeared attractive, the thought of removing MT (so that my dd can enter the best sec school) never cross my mind simply because we are 华人。Instead I plan to help my dd improve her standard of Chinese for her new school year.
Seriously speaking, by removing MT, the likely outcome is that time and effort will be diverted to the remaining 3 subjects and not even bother to start, not to mention about appreciating the beauty of Chinese later in life. As an analogy, if French or Spanish is not a PSLE subject, how many students will spend the energy to study them?
It may be extreme, but look at how PRCs pick up English, literally reading the dictionary from cover to cover. Not easy for them to pick up English.
As an alternative, instead of removing MT from PSLE, why not consider removing English? What do you think will happen overnight? It won’t be surprising to see our Chinese standard improve by leaps and bounds overnight.
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT. -
lee_yl:
:goodpost:My daughter scored band 1 for all subjects except for MT. While the option proposed by bekithia appeared attractive, the thought of removing MT (so that my dd can enter the best sec school) never cross my mind simply because we are 华人。Instead I plan to help my dd improve her standard of Chinese for her new school year.
Seriously speaking, by removing MT, the likely outcome is that time and effort will be diverted to the remaining 3 subjects and not even bother to start, not to mention about appreciating the beauty of Chinese later in life. As an analogy, if French or Spanish is not a PSLE subject, how many students will spend the energy to study them?
It may be extreme, but look at how PRCs pick up English, literally reading the dictionary from cover to cover. Not easy for them to pick up English.
As an alternative, instead of removing MT from PSLE, why not consider removing English? What do you think will happen overnight? It won't be surprising to see our Chinese standard improve by leaps and bounds overnight.
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT.
I agree. I too have noticed that other races hardly complain & some even take Chinese. We are 华人..... -
Because we simply love to complaints
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lee_yl:
haha...got lah...most of my Malay friends cannot speak/write/translate Malay well. Their English is stronger than Malay (they speak Eng at home and give their kids some fanciful anglicised names)...Same for my Indian friends. Many cannot read/write/translate Tamil...
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT.
Whenever I beg them to summarise some opinion piece in berita harian or tamil murasu for me, they run away from me, saying their Malay and Tamil CMI... -
lee_yl:
My daughter scored band 1 for all subjects except for MT. While the option proposed by bekithia appeared attractive, the thought of removing MT (so that my dd can enter the best sec school) never cross my mind simply because we are 华人。Instead I plan to help my dd improve her standard of Chinese for her new school year.
Seriously speaking, by removing MT, the likely outcome is that time and effort will be diverted to the remaining 3 subjects and not even bother to start, not to mention about appreciating the beauty of Chinese later in life. As an analogy, if French or Spanish is not a PSLE subject, how many students will spend the energy to study them?
It may be extreme, but look at how PRCs pick up English, literally reading the dictionary from cover to cover. Not easy for them to pick up English.
As an alternative, instead of removing MT from PSLE, why not consider removing English? What do you think will happen overnight? It won't be surprising to see our Chinese standard improve by leaps and bounds overnight.
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT.
The key here is Not Removing Chinese from PSLE, nor any subjects. It is the way the PSLE score is computed that those who score well in chinese will score more points as opposed to those who are stronger in the other subjects. See, the weightage of every subject is equal but the points scored for each individual subject is dependent on the mean and standard deviation of performance of the cohort for each subject.
For example, a 75 mark scored for Science and Chinese will yield a totally different weightage.
There are many who do very well for Mother Tongue, even perfect scores but not as high for English or Science(according to the exam results released by the schools in the report books). So is this a fair way to gauge the overall ability of a child? -
jetsetter:
ditto to this.
haha...got lah...most of my Malay friends cannot speak/write/translate Malay well. Their English is stronger than Malay (they speak Eng at home and give their kids some fanciful anglicised names)...Same for my Indian friends. Many cannot read/write/translate Tamil...lee_yl:
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT.
Whenever I beg them to summarise some opinion piece in berita harian or tamil murasu for me, they run away from me, saying their Malay and Tamil CMI...
my circle of friends' kids also face similar problems with their HMT but I suppose they complain less or the % having this problem is not as severe as the Chinese population.
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