2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS

[pirated]

Such speculation and dissection of t score is really meaningless.


The t score is used for only one purpose - ranking of performance from #1 to #42,500th for the purpose of picking a sec school

The aberration of the t score may or may not result in not getting into one’s Dream school but as long as consistent performance is achieved by the child, it will show up in O and A level results. After sec one, no one cares what’s your t score. It is largely forgotten by almost everyone.

[ilovelaksa]

pirated:

Such speculation and dissection of t score is really meaningless.


The t score is used for only one purpose - ranking of performance from #1 to #42,500th for the purpose of picking a sec school

The aberration of the t score may or may not result in not getting into one's Dream school but as long as consistent performance is achieved by the child, it will show up in O and A level results. After sec one, no one cares what's your t score. It is largely forgotten by almost everyone.

Damn :goodpost:

[Sun_2010]

pirate:

Sun_2010:

What can be definitely said is t score of 50 for a subject indicates the child got the average raw marks .

That's what I thought. So if MT CL A*/A is 84%, it must mean that an A in MT CL can still get below average, ie. <50 for the T-score?

But I thought some of the complaint is that MT CL drags down by too much the T-score of a child who is not good in MT CL? Does this mean 'not good' in MT CL actually means 'really horrible' in MT CL? Then again, can't be the case if 3A* 1C (CL) can still get 258, right?

So does MT CL affect the T-score too much or does it affect it too little? I am getting conflicting signals here. :?

But pirate has me worried.

If 84% of the cohort go A and above , it means the average raw marks for CL is above 75 - may be in 80s . So a 65 raw marks in CL could get a T score of 35 ( if std dev is 10).

But one point to note is that Grades can be to be moderated too.

Ok, DS is gonna have MT stuffed down his throat now :frustrated:

[ngl2010]

jetsetter:

dimsum:

[quote=\"ngl2010\"]3A*, 1C (CL) 258

:yikes: C also can get 258!

ngl: your son?[/quote]Friend's son. I am also :scratchhead: Maybe other subjects near full mark?

[manifits]

Next year,My son will be taking PSLE.

[jasonlth]

Any T-score from Northland Primary School?

[try]

jetsetter:

pirated:

there was a major outcry when the former education minister previously casually suggested to reduce weightage of MT in PSLE tscore....the PM and the then EdnM had to jointly hold press conference to assure the public they are equal weightage.....

MOE website still had the relevant press release I guess

MT's weightage has been a very touchy issue, tantamount to sacrilege if any how change !

politically suicidal...

Parents whose children qualify for exemption of MT should definitely opt for exemption. There are students who do very well when they do not have to take MT. But I do notice that its usually the parents who have the financial ability and time - so able to get diagnosis promptly - whose children get the exemption. This is from the handful of people I heard so may not be meaningful data. Hope to hear there are cases where schools do the intervention.

[manifits]

Hi Parents, May I know what is the highest score for Ngee Ann Primary School?

[pirate]

Sun_2010:

pirate:

[quote=\"Sun_2010\"]What can be definitely said is t score of 50 for a subject indicates the child got the average raw marks .

That's what I thought. So if MT CL A*/A is 84%, it must mean that an A in MT CL can still get below average, ie. <50 for the T-score?

But I thought some of the complaint is that MT CL drags down by too much the T-score of a child who is not good in MT CL? Does this mean 'not good' in MT CL actually means 'really horrible' in MT CL? Then again, can't be the case if 3A* 1C (CL) can still get 258, right?

So does MT CL affect the T-score too much or does it affect it too little? I am getting conflicting signals here. :?

But pirate has me worried.

If 84% of the cohort go A and above , it means the average raw marks for CL is above 75 - may be in 80s . So a 65 raw marks in CL could get a T score of 35 ( if std dev is 10).

But one point to note is that Grades can be to be moderated too.

Ok, DS is gonna have MT stuffed down his throat now :frustrated:[/quote]Not my fault whorr. I only quoting somebody who said that historically 84% get A*/A for MT CL. I was just wondering if 84% get A*/A, how can there be a large standard deviation (again referring to what some other person said) unless many of those who do not get A*/A gravitate towards <30 marks raw score. And even then, how big can the standard deviation be compared to some other subject where say 44% get A*/A :?

I find it hard to square one (84% get A*/A) with the other (standard deviation of MT CL is higher than other subjects).

PS. Actually, looking at 2011-2013, it seems that for MT CL 77.8%-80.6% get A*/A, which is only marginally higher than MT TL but about 5% higher than MT ML. Can't find 2014, but presumably it has been published somewhere.

[MrBin]

My mistake, past years before 2011,MT CL ~81% get A/A* not 84%.