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      Imconcern
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      pixiedust:
      I see many questions about HMT so I'll upload this info here for future reference. (information from handouts during 2014 SJI principal-parents dialog session)


      http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/pixie_dust8/media/HMTs.jpg.html
      Looking at the info provided, it seems that it will make very little sense for anyone to want to do very well for the HMT at O level. This is because they will then be required to do the 2nd lang at SL / HL.

      Unlikely those taking A, if they managed to do well enough for their HMT at O level, they will be exempted from doing Chinese at JC. Any comment from parents?

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        pixiedust:
        Any information what is the lowest score in this batch of 76 students ?

        I understand the highest score is 44/45 and no perfect score.
        and 1000 students took the IB exam in Singapore in 2014. (just to keep track for future year's comparison)

        1) Since it is 100% passing rate, no one has gone below 24 points.
        2) Considering that this is the first batch taking the IBDP exam, I believe the lowest score of the batch is immaterial
        3) ACSI has been running the program since 2005, about 8 years more experienced than SJI. From this perspective, I think the school has done exceptionally well with the first batch and we should only expect better news in the future.

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          Imconcern:
          pixiedust:

          I see many questions about HMT so I'll upload this info here for future reference. (information from handouts during 2014 SJI principal-parents dialog session)


          http://s1197.photobucket.com/user/pixie_dust8/media/HMTs.jpg.html

          Looking at the info provided, it seems that it will make very little sense for anyone to want to do very well for the HMT at O level. This is because they will then be required to do the 2nd lang at SL / HL.

          Unlikely those taking A, if they managed to do well enough for their HMT at O level, they will be exempted from doing Chinese at JC. Any comment from parents?

          from what i read ... i am gathering the same. what's the merit for doing well at HMT for IBDP students?

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            Imconcern:
            pixiedust:

            Any information what is the lowest score in this batch of 76 students ?

            I understand the highest score is 44/45 and no perfect score.
            and 1000 students took the IB exam in Singapore in 2014. (just to keep track for future year's comparison)


            1) Since it is 100% passing rate, no one has gone below 24 points.
            2) Considering that this is the first batch taking the IBDP exam, I believe the lowest score of the batch is immaterial
            3) ACSI has been running the program since 2005, about 8 years more experienced than SJI. From this perspective, I think the school has done exceptionally well with the first batch and we should only expect better news in the future.


            is there any reference to the IBDP cut-off points to gain acceptance to university courses? there exists information with regards to minimum requirements but actual points for entry are somewhat had to find. any pointers?

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              thankgod:
              Imconcern:

              [quote=\"pixiedust\"]Any information what is the lowest score in this batch of 76 students ?

              I understand the highest score is 44/45 and no perfect score.
              and 1000 students took the IB exam in Singapore in 2014. (just to keep track for future year's comparison)


              1) Since it is 100% passing rate, no one has gone below 24 points.
              2) Considering that this is the first batch taking the IBDP exam, I believe the lowest score of the batch is immaterial
              3) ACSI has been running the program since 2005, about 8 years more experienced than SJI. From this perspective, I think the school has done exceptionally well with the first batch and we should only expect better news in the future.


              is there any reference to the IBDP cut-off points to gain acceptance to university courses? there exists information with regards to minimum requirements but actual points for entry are somewhat had to find. any pointers?[/quote]Will definitely be good if we can get some reference guide on this. I understand from my sister (her DS went thru IB and will be starting her Med study soon) that a score of 38 to 42 will be good enough to receive offers from Ivy league Uni and Unis from Singapore.

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                What I found from another thread:

                \"The IB examinations are set by the IB from their centre in Cardiff, Wales. Students take the exams (just like most other exams) in either May or November β€” for most of the southern hemisphere and most of Singapore, this is November. Singapore hosts the Asia-Pacific zone HQ; there's one for Europe/Africa/Middle East and one for N/S America as well.

                Students take 3 Higher Level subjects (240 hours each), 3 Standard Level subjects (150 hours each); the main difference is that HLs have more content, but HLs normally include the 150 hours of the corresponding SL. Each of these six subjects come from 5-6 subject groups (Group 6 is optional, so students can take their sixth subject from any of the other groups). Each subject is graded on a fairly linear (although not completely so) scale of 1-7; they will only get 0 if they do not turn up or they are caught cheating.

                Students also take Theory of Knowledge, Extended Essay, and Creativity-Action-Service (CAS). ToK and EE are graded A to E; basically if you get AA/AB for these components, you get 3 bonus pointsβ€”if you score lower, you get fewer bonus points to a minimum of 0. CAS is a pass/fail 150 hours of self-assembled activities which students choose as learning experiences.

                The 45 points come from the (1-7) x 6 subjects plus the 0-3 bonus points.\"

                And

                \"Okay, I just ploughed thru my son's yr 5 subject briefing pack and gathered these:

                Mother tongue requirements & MOE bilingual policy:
                Students who have met the MOE mother tongue requirements at GCE O level exam (ie. obtained a D7 grade or better for the higher mother tongue at GCE O level examination) can offer ANY language subject in GRoup 2. To offer language ab initio, students must have obtained a D7 grade or better for the higher mother tongue at the GCE O level examination. Otherwise, they will be required to sit for the GCE 'A' level H1 mother tongue examination.

                Students who have been officially exempted from taking the official mother tongue languages can offer any language in group 2.

                To lessen the examination load at the end of IB year 2, one standard level examination can be taken at the end of IB year 1. This subject is termed \"Anticipated Subject\" and students are able to offer Chinese B, Malay B or Tamil B as an anticipated subject and take the examination at the end of year 1.

                Hope the above helped to clarify your doubt. I also spoke to the IB Chinese dean some 3 yrs back and was given the assurance that even if the student takes HMT, they are still eligible to do Chinese B in yr 5. You may like to call for clarification too :)\"

                Cannot claim to fully understand the above so maybe someone can help further explain to us, especially on the Chinese language matter.

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                  Imconcern:
                  Cannot claim to fully understand the above so maybe someone can help further explain to us, especially on the Chinese language matter.

                  i'll 2nd that ... reading and re-reading ... i'm still not sure what i am reading :?

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                    orientation week over ... now to get into real work πŸ˜„


                    qns: for this in the IP program, how does the CCA bonus points work? students won't need the bonus points for o-levels ...

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                      thankgod:
                      orientation week over ... now to get into real work πŸ˜„


                      qns: for this in the IP program, how does the CCA bonus points work? students won't need the bonus points for o-levels ...
                      Saw a similar question asked in other thread and am surprised that this is asked as I the school has gone thru it several times. SJI (and in fact almost all schools) looks at the holistic development of each child. While the boy MIGHT NOT need to go through O Level if they are in IP track, academic results is not everything there is in SJI. Also, in the worst case scenario, what if they cannot make it in IP and need to move onto O level track? Not something that has never happened before. The school also look at the character, leadership and skill development of each boy and opportunities and awards are given accordingly.

                      If anyone is asking this question for your DS, pls tell them that CCA is a commitment and an important of life in SJI. If you are asking this as a parent, I hope it do not negatively influence your DS as they will soon grow to be a man and textbooks is not everything. Instead, ask them to think seriously and commit to it. I like one thing that was shared during the parent orientation brief. Each boy will be able to put in 6 choices for their CCA, and any of the six choices might be something that they can go 'tahan' with for the next 4 years.

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                        Imconcern:
                        thankgod:

                        orientation week over ... now to get into real work πŸ˜„


                        qns: for this in the IP program, how does the CCA bonus points work? students won't need the bonus points for o-levels ...

                        Saw a similar question asked in other thread and am surprised that this is asked as I the school has gone thru it several times. SJI (and in fact almost all schools) looks at the holistic development of each child. While the boy MIGHT NOT need to go through O Level if they are in IP track, academic results is not everything there is in SJI. Also, in the worst case scenario, what if they cannot make it in IP and need to move onto O level track? Not something that has never happened before. The school also look at the character, leadership and skill development of each boy and opportunities and awards are given accordingly.

                        If anyone is asking this question for your DS, pls tell them that CCA is a commitment and an important of life in SJI. If you are asking this as a parent, I hope it do not negatively influence your DS as they will soon grow to be a man and textbooks is not everything. Instead, ask them to think seriously and commit to it. I like one thing that was shared during the parent orientation brief. Each boy will be able to put in 6 choices for their CCA, and any of the six choices might be something that they can go 'tahan' with for the next 4 years.

                        good morning ... thank you for the response

                        agree that there is always chance of going back to the o level track. in fact, this is something that we (DS and myself) have communicated before. if IP isn't for him, we all agreed and are prepared to move him back to the o level track. we are certainly not taking CCA for granted. just need some \"advise\" and \"knowledge\"

                        at present DS is considering a CCA that he would like to explore i.e. something that he has interest but may not necessarily excel in versus something that he has been doing in his primary school, represented school and have already been \"shortlisted\" in SJI.

                        if he is doing just for the CCA points, many would say to go to something that he has been already doing and have some foundation versus something that is completely new and unknown.

                        i am however of a different view. i want him to do something that he has interest in rather than just for the CCA points. if he wants to explore something new, i feel that he should have the opportunity to do so. i;m trying to gather information so that hopefully DS can make a more informed choice. stick with the tried and tested or go with something new ... his choice at the end of the day, just a parent trying to feed him with as much information without clouding his decision.

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