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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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    • Y Offline
      YLH88
      last edited by

      [quote]Hi YLH88,

      While waiting for Mathsguru's model solution, pls see whether mine using ratio is of any use or not?

      (a)
      D : T
      8 : 11
      16 : 22

      D : T
      19 : 19

      (16+22)÷2=19

      3u=18
      u=6
      6u=36

      At first, Thomas had 36 more game cards than Doran.

      (b)
      D : T
      19:19
      38: 38

      D : T
      3 : 1
      57:19

      6u=18 [from part (a) ie 6u=36, reduce half of 36 = 18 since 19:19 has been doubled to 38:38 in part (b)]
      u=3
      19u = 57
      Thomas lost 57 more cards to Doran.[/quote]Hi Vanilla Cake,

      For (a), I got the answer using the model method. For the unit method, why did you change 8:11 to 16:22 ? Why do we multiple by 2 and not 3 or 4 etc ?

      For (b), why do you change from 19:19 to 38:38 and 3:1 to 57:19 ?

      Thank you!

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      • CoffeeCatC Offline
        CoffeeCat
        last edited by

        YLH88:
        [quote]Hi YLH88,

        While waiting for Mathsguru's model solution, pls see whether mine using ratio is of any use or not?

        (a)
        D : T
        8 : 11
        16 : 22

        D : T
        19 : 19

        (16+22)÷2=19

        3u=18
        u=6
        6u=36

        At first, Thomas had 36 more game cards than Doran.

        (b)
        D : T
        19:19
        38: 38

        D : T
        3 : 1
        57:19

        6u=18 [from part (a) ie 6u=36, reduce half of 36 = 18 since 19:19 has been doubled to 38:38 in part (b)]
        u=3
        19u = 57
        Thomas lost 57 more cards to Doran.
        Hi Vanilla Cake,

        For (a), I got the answer using the model method. For the unit method, why did you change 8:11 to 16:22 ? Why do we multiple by 2 and not 3 or 4 etc ?

        For (b), why do you change from 19:19 to 38:38 and 3:1 to 57:19 ?

        Thank you![/quote]Imagine ur drawing a model.
        8+11=19 is odd. do you want to draw 9 and a half units or just 38 units?

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        • D Offline
          Dharma
          last edited by

          YLH88:
          [quote]Hi YLH88,

          While waiting for Mathsguru's model solution, pls see whether mine using ratio is of any use or not?

          (a)
          D : T
          8 : 11
          16 : 22

          D : T
          19 : 19

          (16+22)÷2=19

          3u=18
          u=6
          6u=36

          At first, Thomas had 36 more game cards than Doran.

          (b)
          D : T
          19:19
          38: 38

          D : T
          3 : 1
          57:19

          6u=18 [from part (a) ie 6u=36, reduce half of 36 = 18 since 19:19 has been doubled to 38:38 in part (b)]
          u=3
          19u = 57
          Thomas lost 57 more cards to Doran.
          Hi Vanilla Cake,

          For (a), I got the answer using the model method. For the unit method, why did you change 8:11 to 16:22 ? Why do we multiple by 2 and not 3 or 4 etc ?

          For (b), why do you change from 19:19 to 38:38 and 3:1 to 57:19 ?

          Thank you![/quote](a)\tDoran : 8u + 18 = 11u – 18
          3u = 36 (Additional no. of cards Thomas had at first)

          (b)\tDoran had = 8u = 8 x 12 = 96
          Thomas had = 11u = 11 x 12 = 132

          96 + 1p = 3(132 – 1p)
          4p = 300
          1p = 75
          Additional cards Thomas lost = 75 – 18 = 57

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          • E Offline
            Emelyn
            last edited by

            I have one question :


            Mr Tay bought a massage chair for $888. He sold it to Mr Yeo for $850. He later bought the massage chair back from Mr Yeo for $900 and sold it to Mrs Tan for $1000. How much did Mr Tayy gain ?


            MTIA !

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            • CoffeeCatC Offline
              CoffeeCat
              last edited by

              Emelyn:
              I have one question :


              Mr Tay bought a massage chair for $888. He sold it to Mr Yeo for $850. He later bought the massage chair back from Mr Yeo for $900 and sold it to Mrs Tan for $1000. How much did Mr Tayy gain ?


              MTIA !
              do it step-by-step...
              Or
              when he buy, money is being gone from his pocket (so we will minus) and when he sell, money is being earned (so we will add).

              -$888 + $850 -$900 + $1000
              (if you are uncomfortable with a negative integer at the front then use the \"working backwards\" )

              $1000 - $900 + $850 - $888 = $62

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                Emelyn
                last edited by

                CoffeeCat:
                Emelyn:

                I have one question :


                Mr Tay bought a massage chair for $888. He sold it to Mr Yeo for $850. He later bought the massage chair back from Mr Yeo for $900 and sold it to Mrs Tan for $1000. How much did Mr Tayy gain ?


                MTIA !

                do it step-by-step...
                Or
                when he buy, money is being gone from his pocket (so we will minus) and when he sell, money is being earned (so we will add).

                -$888 + $850 -$900 + $1000
                (if you are uncomfortable with a negative integer at the front then use the \"working backwards\" )

                $1000 - $900 + $850 - $888 = $62


                The qn is actually from a colleague.
                Her DD1 (P3) and DD2 (P2) teachers both said answer is $12.
                I wonder why.....

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                • CoffeeCatC Offline
                  CoffeeCat
                  last edited by

                  lol you very free visiting the site during work =P.

                  Anyway this question has gotten the attention of 2 teachers? what’s their working?

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                  • P Offline
                    P5G
                    last edited by

                    Emelyn:
                    I have one question :


                    Mr Tay bought a massage chair for $888. He sold it to Mr Yeo for $850. He later bought the massage chair back from Mr Yeo for $900 and sold it to Mrs Tan for $1000. How much did Mr Tayy gain ?

                    MTIA !
                    888 - 850 = 38 - loss

                    900 - 850 = 50 -- loss

                    1000 - 900 = 100 -- gain

                    100 - 38 - 50 = $12 gain

                    Please see amendments that follow this thread. Correct answer is $62 gain.

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                    • CoffeeCatC Offline
                      CoffeeCat
                      last edited by

                      I am highly disturbed by this part

                      900-850=50.
                      Lets hope others make a comment on this.

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                        Dharma
                        last edited by

                        P5G:
                        Emelyn:

                        I have one question :


                        Mr Tay bought a massage chair for $888. He sold it to Mr Yeo for $850. He later bought the massage chair back from Mr Yeo for $900 and sold it to Mrs Tan for $1000. How much did Mr Tayy gain ?

                        MTIA !

                        888 - 850 = 38 - loss

                        900 - 850 = 50 -- loss

                        1000 - 900 = 100 -- gain

                        100 - 38 - 50 = $12 gain

                        Hi P5G

                        888 - 850 = 38 - loss

                        900 - 850 = 50 -- loss (This line double counts the sales of 850 & purchase of 900)

                        1000 - 900 = 100 -- gain

                        100 - 38 - 50 = $12 gain (Need to remove the 50)

                        Should be

                        100 – 38 = 62 (Gain)

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