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Snow24:

Hi


For high Functioning ASD child is it true that the child will not have language delayed?

Mine is considered high functioning. He has Aspergers'. He didn't have any speech delay. In fact, he was quite advanced cos PD noticed that he was making sounds that babies of his age don't make at around 6 mths. His first words were around 15-16 mths old, quite abt the same time as his NT sister. And by abt 18 mths, he was humming 'Mary had a little lamb'.

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phtthp:

How do you define a high functioning or a low functioning child ?

Whether a child is high functioning or low functioning depends on the IQ test. That's why the ASD tests comprises of the IQ part. According to the psychologist, the higher the IQ, the better the child is able to develop his own coping mechanisms to compensate his disabilities.

[sharonkhoo]

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Snow24:

Hi


For high Functioning ASD child is it true that the child will not have language delayed?

Mine is considered high functioning. He has Aspergers'. He didn't have any speech delay. In fact, he was quite advanced cos PD noticed that he was making sounds that babies of his age don't make at around 6 mths. His first words were around 15-16 mths old, quite abt the same time as his NT sister. And by abt 18 mths, he was humming 'Mary had a little lamb'.

I think one of the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's is that the child had no language delay. I'm not sure what they mean by \"language delay\" though. My daughter only spoke at 23 mths, and the psychologist was a bit undecided whether to classify her as Asperger's.

[sharonkhoo]

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phtthp:

How do you define a high functioning or a low functioning child ?

Whether a child is high functioning or low functioning depends on the IQ test. That's why the ASD tests comprises of the IQ part. According to the psychologist, the higher the IQ, the better the child is able to develop his own coping mechanisms to compensate his disabilities.

Any idea what the classification is if there is no IQ score? Just look at some of the components? Which? My daughter was not given an IQ score because the difference between individual components was quite great, and apparently a score could not be computed. She was eventually classified as Asperger's, so I guess that high-functioning.

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A lot is said abt caning. According to my psychologist, whether kid is ASD or not, if the situation warrants physical disciplining, then it should be done. But I can’t bring myself to do caning, so I smack instead, using my hands. I feel that smacking with my hands is better for me cos I will know how much strength I’m using cos hand will pain. But I will never let my hubby cane/smack my kids cos a man’s strength may hurt the child badly or even kill him.

However this method of discipline (caning/smacking) cannot be used forever. As the child grows older, we will not be able to cane/smack the child anymore. So other forms of discipline (eg removing priviledges) has to be enlisted.

Autumnleaf, maybe u want to use other forms of disciplining instead of caning for your P4 boy, since caning doesn’t seem to be working and he is already 10 years old. slmkhoo has given some good suggestions on the issues you have with your son dismantling his mechanical pencils and playing instead of doing his homework. Actually, if he breaks his mechanical pencils, just don’t get him a new one. Let him use the old type pencils which you have to sharpen every time it become blunt.

tygeoh, I cannot fathom you giving your DS 15 strokes of cane in full man’s strength over not eating white rice. If he don’t want to eat white rice, then don’t eat rice lah…won’t die what and there are plenty of other things to eat, right? And 15 strokes is a lot! Anyway, it works for you and your son, so I will just zip my mouth.

Peace

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slmkhoo:

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[quote=\"phtthp\"]How do you define a high functioning or a low functioning child ?

Whether a child is high functioning or low functioning depends on the IQ test. That's why the ASD tests comprises of the IQ part. According to the psychologist, the higher the IQ, the better the child is able to develop his own coping mechanisms to compensate his disabilities.

Any idea what the classification is if there is no IQ score? Just look at some of the components? Which? My daughter was not given an IQ score because the difference between individual components was quite great, and apparently a score could not be computed. She was eventually classified as Asperger's, so I guess that high-functioning.[/quote]Actually, mine also don't have a consolidated IQ score cos of his disability on the social aspect affecting his VIQ scores. According to my psychologist, the variation of the PIQ and VIQ scores must fall within some limits (ie the standard deviation) for them to calculate the consolidated IQ. We were told to just take the PIQ score as his max potential. And if we are not comfortable, we can just take the average of PIQ and VIQ.

[sharonkhoo]

Gifts from Heaven:

Actually, mine also don't have a consolidated IQ score cos of his disability on the social aspect affecting his VIQ scores. According to my psychologist, the variation of the PIQ and VIQ scores must fall within some limits (ie the standard deviation) for them to calculate the consolidated IQ. We were told to just take the PIQ score as his max potential. And if we are not comfortable, we can just take the average of PIQ and VIQ.

Sorry, what do the P and V stand for?

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slmkhoo:

Gifts from Heaven:

Actually, mine also don't have a consolidated IQ score cos of his disability on the social aspect affecting his VIQ scores. According to my psychologist, the variation of the PIQ and VIQ scores must fall within some limits (ie the standard deviation) for them to calculate the consolidated IQ. We were told to just take the PIQ score as his max potential. And if we are not comfortable, we can just take the average of PIQ and VIQ.

Sorry, what do the P and V stand for?

Oops!

P = processing
V = verbal

[sharonkhoo]

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slmkhoo:

[quote=\"Gifts from Heaven\"]Actually, mine also don't have a consolidated IQ score cos of his disability on the social aspect affecting his VIQ scores. According to my psychologist, the variation of the PIQ and VIQ scores must fall within some limits (ie the standard deviation) for them to calculate the consolidated IQ. We were told to just take the PIQ score as his max potential. And if we are not comfortable, we can just take the average of PIQ and VIQ.

Sorry, what do the P and V stand for?

Oops!

P = processing
V = verbal[/quote]Sounds like a different test from what my daughter was given. Her results were in 4 categories - 2 were something-or-other reasoning, working memory, and processing speed. Her reasoning scores were OK, but she was low in the others.

[Autumnleaf]

Slmkhoo and Gifts from Heaven, thank you for sharing some suggestions and experiences. Been getting calls from DS maths teacher again… Constant fiddling with stationary ><! We are trying to talk some sense into our 10 yr old DS lately, reserve the caning for times when he had been warned and it happens again despite of warning.


P4s are expected to use pen now but I don’t think mine is ready!!! He really has horrendous handwriting. But even with wooden 2b pencils… He could come back with the lead tips missing.

For the IQ test he just did, if I recall correctly some of the areas tested are verbal compre, visual spatial, processing speed, working memory…

I am not sure how my DS1 profile will look…quite curious. So far physcoligist had only noted that some attention deficit is noticed while his memory is on the high side.

Are any of your children left handed?
So far my DS1, DD and Hb are lefties. Still to find out on DS2. I read lefties may be prone to learning disabilities…