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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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      Tang
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      firebird:

      4) There were some horses and people on a farm. There were 62 more legs than heads. There were 26 more heads than tails.

      a) How many people were there?
      b) How many horses were there?

      I really do not know where to start for question 4 a) & b)
      1 horse -- > 1 head , 4 legs , 1 tail
      1 person -- > 1 head , 2 legs

      H horses -- > 1 H head , 4 H legs , 1 H tail
      P people --> 1 P head , 2 P legs

      4 H + 2 P – 1 H – 1 P -- > 62
      3 H + 1 P -- > 62

      1 H + 1 P – 1 H --> 26
      1 P -- > 26

      3 H -- > 62 – 26 = 36
      1 H -- > 36 ÷ 3 = 12

      a) There were 26 people.
      b) There were 12 horses.

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        firebird
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        Dear Vanilla cake and Tang


        Many thanks for the solution posted.

        With best regards
        firebird

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          Vanilla Cake
          last edited by

          Tang:
          firebird:

          4) There were some horses and people on a farm. There were 62 more legs than heads. There were 26 more heads than tails.


          a) How many people were there?
          b) How many horses were there?

          I really do not know where to start for question 4 a) & b)

          1 horse -- > 1 head , 4 legs , 1 tail
          1 person -- > 1 head , 2 legs

          H horses -- > 1 H head , 4 H legs , 1 H tail
          P people --> 1 P head , 2 P legs

          4 H + 2 P – 1 H – 1 P -- > 62
          3 H + 1 P -- > 62

          1 H + 1 P – 1 H --> 26
          1 P -- > 26

          3 H -- > 62 – 26 = 36
          1 H -- > 36 ÷ 3 = 12

          a) There were 26 people.
          b) There were 12 horses.

          Hi Tang,
          Thks for pointing my mistake for interpreting the question incorrectly. :oops: Sorry to mislead you, firebird. Pls see my workings again:

          (a)
          There were 26 people
          Explanation:
          \"There were 26 more heads than tails.\"
          -> A horse has a head and a tail , so this does not contribute to the difference.
          -> A person has no tail and this contributes to the difference that is 26.

          (b)
          A horse has 4 legs and a head.
          Difference =3
          26+62-52=36
          36/3=12
          Number of horses was 12

          This is a 4-mark question from http://www.orlesson.org/orp/09Ma/2009-P6-Math-CA1-PeiHwa.pdf

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            starlight1968sg
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            Hi,

            I need some help.

            Jane bought a number of books at an average price of $8. If she decides to buy another book which cost $18, the average price of all the books will become $10. Find the number of books she bought?

            It is a p5 Maths question.

            MTIA.

            Thanks for pointing out my glaring typo error!

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              Dharma
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              starlight1968sg:
              Hi,

              I need some help.

              Jane bought a number of books at an average price of $18. If she decides to buy another book which cost $18, the average price of all the books will become $10. Find the number of books she bought?

              It is a p5 Maths question.

              MTIA.
              Hi starlight1968sg,

              When Jane buys an additional book at $18 which is the average price of the she had bought previously the new average price will still be $18.

              Unless the price of the new book is much lower than $18, you will not get a new average price of $10.

              Pls check the question.

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                firebird
                last edited by

                Dear Vanilla cake


                No problem. I really appreciate your help.

                Many thanks
                firebird

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                  Dharma
                  last edited by

                  starlight1968sg:
                  Hi,

                  I need some help.

                  Jane bought a number of books at an average price of $8. If she decides to buy another book which cost $18, the average price of all the books will become $10. Find the number of books she bought?

                  It is a p5 Maths question.

                  MTIA.

                  Thanks for pointing out my glaring typo error!
                  Total cost of N books = $8N
                  Total cost of (N+1) books = $10(N+1)

                  $10(N+1) - $8N = $18
                  $2N = $18 - $10 = $8
                  N = 4 (No. of books bought by Jane)

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                    starlight1968sg
                    last edited by

                    Dharma:
                    Total cost of N books = $8N

                    Total cost of (N+1) books = $10(N+1)

                    $10(N+1) - $8N = $18
                    $2N = $18 - $10 = $8
                    N = 4 (No. of books bought by Jane)
                    yes, the ans is 4. Without the use of equation method, how can we solve it using model? I have been trying this p5 question for days!
                    MTIA.

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                      CoffeeCat
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                      The average price is $8 . The extra value that causes the increase in average price across all books (including the new book) is $18-$10=$8.

                      since this extra$10 increases theaverage prices of all books by $2, there are 10/2=5 books.(including the new book).

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                        Vanilla Cake
                        last edited by

                        starlight1968sg:
                        Jane bought a number of books at an average price of $8. If she decides to buy another book which cost $18, the average price of all the books will become $10. Find the number of books she bought?

                        It is a p5 Maths question.
                        Hi starlight1968sg,
                        For info and there is a helpful http://psle2010a.blogspot.com/2010/03/mathsp5averagea001.html that provides solutions for Maths questions. Your question has been selected and two different methods without using algebra have been used to solve it.
                        😄

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