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    • V Offline
      VitoRelax
      last edited by

      xxjustakidxx:
      verykiasu2010:

      for NYPS girls to get into NYGH under affiliation scheme, the minimum T-score must be 250 and above


      To maintain the affiliation is to help continue the culture and values of the Nanyang family of schools.

      NYGH was founded as a non-government school which became a government aided school, part of the funding is from donors, they have their board of governors while RGS / RI is a purely government school

      RGS, RI, NYGH, HCI are all independent schools. NJC, DHS, RVHS are government aided.

      Are the fees in RGS, RI, HCI & NYGH the same ?

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        verykiasu2010
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        xxjustakidxx:
        verykiasu2010:

        for NYPS girls to get into NYGH under affiliation scheme, the minimum T-score must be 250 and above


        To maintain the affiliation is to help continue the culture and values of the Nanyang family of schools.

        NYGH was founded as a non-government school which became a government aided school, part of the funding is from donors, they have their board of governors while RGS / RI is a purely government school

        RGS, RI, NYGH, HCI are all independent schools. NJC, DHS, RVHS are government aided.


        RGS, RI, NJC are 100% government school, though it may be IP school. That is why RGPS has no affiliation to RGSS.

        NYGH though is IP but is government aided - meaning the clan association still has a say in the funding and the direction of the school

        I have no idea on RV & DHS

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          mathsparks
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          Based on this link, it says that RI is an Independent School.


          http://app.sis.moe.gov.sg/schinfo/SIS_SearchDtls.asp?strCode=3009&snm=RAFFLES INSTITUTION

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            mummyjoyce
            last edited by

            RGS, RI, NJC are 100% government school, though it may be IP school. That is why RGPS has no affiliation to RGSS.


            NYGH though is IP but is government aided - meaning the clan association still has a say in the funding and the direction of the school

            I have no idea on RV & DHS[/quote]

            The above is incorrect: RGSS and school likes SCGC/MGS are Independent with different programmes offer. There is no link between affination and how the schools are grouped under.

            RGSS:
            Type of School
            : INDEPENDENT SCHOOL/ GIRLS' SCHOOL/ SINGLE SESSION
            Programme
            : Integrated Programme

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              VitoRelax
              last edited by

              What are the fees like in RGS, RI, HCI & NYGH ?

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                corneyAmber
                last edited by

                VitoRelax:
                What are the fees like in RGS, RI, HCI & NYGH ?

                Nah Apek, entertain you a bit since no one seems to be answering you, see you like so poor thing like that :

                RGS - http://www.rgs.edu.sg/newsite/news/Fees_Info.pdf

                RI - http://www.ri.sch.edu.sg/en/special/admission-and-fees.html

                HCI - http://www.hwachong.edu.sg/ContentPage.asp?SID=16

                NYGH - http://www.nygh.moe.edu.sg/students/student_finance.shtml

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                  verykiasu2010
                  last edited by

                  mummyjoyce:
                  RGS, RI, NJC are 100% government school, though it may be IP school. That is why RGPS has no affiliation to RGSS.


                  NYGH though is IP but is government aided - meaning the clan association still has a say in the funding and the direction of the school

                  I have no idea on RV & DHS

                  The above is incorrect: RGSS and school likes SCGC/MGS are Independent with different programmes offer. There is no link between affination and how the schools are grouped under.

                  RGSS:
                  Type of School
                  : INDEPENDENT SCHOOL/ GIRLS' SCHOOL/ SINGLE SESSION
                  Programme
                  : Integrated Programme
                  [/quote]

                  you are right from the academic program point of view - they are independent from MOE's curriculum.

                  However, they still cannot admit any student they like = must follow MOE guideline of minimum t-score 250 ...

                  from the government funding point of view, they are government schools

                  they are set up, run by (until they gone \"independent\" recently), and funded by the government

                  they do not have board of governors representing the donors / clan association

                  the Methodist Church in Singapore have some bearing on MGS, and their primary students are affiliated to MGS secondary (cut off point 220)

                  SCGS was founded by private donors and their alumni still has influence on the cut-off points from the primary to the secondary section of the school (cut of point 201)

                  Those schools previously founded by private donors are now government-aided schools because MOE must have control over national education in exchange for funding them. Those government aided schools must still raise their own money for many projects BEFORE government will come in.


                  I prefer not to debate all these with anyone. Just pointing out what is really independent and what is not

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                    CoffeeCat
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                    Lol we are not debating with you. We are merely trying to clarify things, especially when we come across something so counter-intuitive to our web of beliefs.


                    So at the end of the day, your definition of \"government\" is different from what we heard from the media (\"govt, govt-aided, independent schools\")?
                    That it means as long as it received funding from the govt, the govt sees them as government schools?
                    That is they have a board of governor and that board is not representing donors/clan association then it is a \"govt\" school?
                    So at the end of the day \"what is really independent\"?

                    In case you truly know something that the rest of us don't, perhaps you might enlighten us more on this issue.

                    From this page
                    http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/primary/primary-to-secondary/
                    moe states that independent school had full rights to admit anyone, so do your minimum guideline of 250 still applies? (this could be an internal thing for all we know).

                    I don't know how much independent schools depend on the government for funding but I know they exercise their \"independence\" by charging high fees (i suppose this is what keeps independent school going) and have their rights to hire teachers as well.
                    I don't know about this but if the independent schools charge so much for fees do they still expect funding from the govt?

                    Anyway for the rest of us who are curious, this pdf file highlighted the history of the independent school scheme.
                    http://sunzi.lib.hku.hk/hkjo/view/33/3300520.pdf

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                      verykiasu2010
                      last edited by

                      CoffeeCat:
                      Lol we are not debating with you. We are merely trying to clarify things, especially when we come across something so counter-intuitive to our web of beliefs.


                      So at the end of the day, your definition of \"government\" is different from what we heard from the media (\"govt, govt-aided, independent schools\")?
                      That it means as long as it received funding from the govt, the govt sees them as government schools?
                      That is they have a board of governor and that board is not representing donors/clan association then it is a \"govt\" school?
                      So at the end of the day \"what is really independent\"?

                      In case you truly know something that the rest of us don't, perhaps you might enlighten us more on this issue.

                      From this page
                      http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/primary/primary-to-secondary/
                      moe states that independent school had full rights to admit anyone, so do your minimum guideline of 250 still applies? (this could be an internal thing for all we know).

                      I don't know how much independent schools depend on the government for funding but I know they exercise their \"independence\" by charging high fees (i suppose this is what keeps independent school going) and have their rights to hire teachers as well.
                      I don't know about this but if the independent schools charge so much for fees do they still expect funding from the govt?

                      Anyway for the rest of us who are curious, this pdf file highlighted the history of the independent school scheme.
                      http://sunzi.lib.hku.hk/hkjo/view/33/3300520.pdf
                      Just met some principals recently. It is very clearly stated : they need to answer back to MOE on their choice of students, no matter how good the students are. Even for DSA, they have to submit the name list to MOE to get MOE approvals. They cannot issue letter of offer without MOE approval. That much of independece

                      As far as I am concerned - i.e. my view of it, independence is just in the area of academic program, and recruitment of certain categories of staff - not all teachers. Principals are appointed by MOE, not by board of governors

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                        verykiasu2010
                        last edited by

                        CoffeeCat:

                        Anyway for the rest of us who are curious, this pdf file highlighted the history of the independent school scheme.
                        http://sunzi.lib.hku.hk/hkjo/view/33/3300520.pdf
                        Page 1 of the article by CUHK :

                        The independent schools scheme in Singapore,
                        where a few elite schools are given greater autonomy
                        •in certain areas of educational management like
                        •fixing of school fees, staff recruitment and student
                        admission, was introduced in 1987. This article1
                        examines the independent schools scheme as an
                        example of organizational decentralization of educational
                        management. The first section lays out some
                        of the relevant concepts to be discussed and delimits
                        the scope of discussion. This is followed by a look at
                        the background of events leading up to implementation
                        of the independent schools scheme,
                        including the reasons behind the implementation of
                        the scheme. Some key features of the operational
                        set-up in these schools are mentioned. It is argued
                        that although the independent school principals
                        enjoy greater autonomy in, certain areas, the
                        Ministry of Education still exerts considerable
                        control, both direct and indirect, over them. This
                        enables it to grant the independent schools
                        autonomy, whiic at the same time ensuring that they
                        conform to the overall goals of educational policy in
                        Singapore.



                        incidentally, my nephew is doing research at CUHK on Singapore schools....

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