Networking Group - JCs General
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Pirated said that PW is different than RE. But seriously, is there any other differences other than can’t select team members? RE in Year 1 also can’t select team members. Year 2 can select own team members. I don’t know about Year 3 though.
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Pen88n:
The explanation given by DS' school is slightly different from your computation.
I think the highlighted portion is incorrect. This is taken from NUS Office of Admission :Fat Mama:
[quote=\"zeemimi\"]Usually students take GP,PW,3H2+1H1 or GP,PW,4H2.
For the latter, the worst H2 grade will be counted as a H1.
HCL grade can be used in place of the H1 grade, taking the better of the 2.
Admission requirements for H1/H2 'A' Level curriculum »
Academic Considerations for University Admissions »
Applicants will be considered for admission based on the strength of their academic achievements and additional interviews/tests if required. Applicants would need to obtain good passes in the following subjects:
Best four content subjects (i.e. 3 H2 and 1 H1 content-based * subjects, with at least 1 content subject to be from a contrasting discipline), and
either General Paper (GP) or Knowledge Inquiry (KI) subject taken in the same sitting with the H2 content-based subjects, and
H1 Project Work
* Please note that H1 Mother-Tongue Language subject (MTL) cannot be considered in-lieu of a H1 content-based subject.
HCL is equivalent to H1 MTL therefore it cannot replace a H1 subject.
Computation of UAS example : Total 3 H2 + H1 + GP + PW = 70 pts
With HCL Distinction (10 pts) computation : 70 pts x 0.9 = 63 pts then add HCL 10pts = 73 pts.
So HCL helps student to increase 3pts.
This is what I understand from school talk regarding UAS computation.
Total 3H2 (20 points each) + 3H1 (10 points each) = 90 points
Taking your example:
Assume a student score 70 points for his 3H2 and 3H1 and a distinction for HCL which is 10 points.
His total points will be computed as: (70points+10points) x 0.9 = 72 points (which will be 2 points addition to the total score).
Assume a more outstanding student scoring 85 points for his 3H2 and 3H1 and a distinction for HCL which is 10 points.
His total points will be computed as: (85points + 10points) x 0.9 = 85.5points (which will be 0.5points addition to the total score).[/quote]NO, HCL cannot be used to replace other H1 subj...Pen88n:
Yes, Pen88n... yr computation is correct...You can see that HCL score becomes insignificant when the student's results for the 3H2 3H1 is outstanding.
HCL will only be computed in UAS if it helps to raise the scores of UAS...the total UAS will then re-scale by 90% ...
Examples computed by gal's sch...shows that HCL grade only make a small difference in the decimal places in UAS ( if the results for 3H2 + 3H1 is outstanding) -
Augmum, does decimal points mean a lot in UAS like in PSLE?
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ngl2010:
Augmum, does decimal points mean a lot in UAS like in PSLE?
i think it depends on the choice of courses ba...as it is based on competition amongst applicants for the year...
Every course also has its own 10th n 90th percentile grade profile for 3 H2 +1 H1 .... -
Augmum:
Understood. Thank you, Augmum.ngl2010:
Augmum, does decimal points mean a lot in UAS like in PSLE?
i think it depends on the choice of courses ba...as it is based on competition amongst applicants for the year...
Every course also has its own 10th n 90th percentile grade profile for 3 H2 +1 H1 .... -
ngl2010:
Understood. Thank you, Augmum.[/quote]U're welcome...paiseh, cant provide much info regarding this...( till my gal goes thru itAugmum:
[quote=\"ngl2010\"]Augmum, does decimal points mean a lot in UAS like in PSLE?
i think it depends on the choice of courses ba...as it is based on competition amongst applicants for the year...
Every course also has its own 10th n 90th percentile grade profile for 3 H2 +1 H1 ....
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Augmum:
Is it this year, Augmum?
U're welcome...paiseh, cant provide much info regarding this...( till my gal goes thru it ) -
schweppes:
Some personal observation.
GP is useful. It hones the students' critical thinking and writing abilities. I find that this is what sets the JC students apart from poly grads. Students have almost 2 years to hone their thinking and writing skills. It prepares most JC students for academic writing in the uni.
Personally, I feel that poly students should go through a similiar course or subject like GP during their poly years. Unfortunately the poly's curriculum are not designed as such. There may be some Business Communications course but that's like only for 3-4 months. How to hone one's writing skills during that short period of time?
PW, whilst it may be the bane of many JC students, does have its merits. Because poly students work in groups (and in different groups within 1 semester; and we are looking at 6 sems in total), they learn to work with people they like/don't like, and learn to be resourceful.
If one does not have good group dynamics, chances of not doing well is highly possible. Because poly students are exposed to multiple project work, from what I understand, the powers that be decided that JC students should also be exposed to PW as well. And that's how PW came about for JC students (or so i've been told). In this regard, because poly students have 3 years to hone their project management and presentation skills, they have this advantage when they enter uni.
Generally, most students tend to be lost in the first semester, regardless whether they are JC or poly students. But after the 1st sem, most learn to adapt and tend to be better assured or find their footing after a while.
Thought I share the above based on my observations after all these years.
This is good analysis - thanks for sharing.
If I am not wrong, Poly education is more diverse and hands on whereas JC is more academic n analytical. So I guess MOE is trying to match students from both types of institutions inorder to prepare them better for Uni education? Am I rite to say this?
I am wondering (as I have very little knowledge of Poly education) - for those who take up Law n Management Course (as one eg) in Poly, will they have problems later in the Uni as they probably may not have strong writing skills? -
zbear:
Actually, aim of JC education is to prepare students entering higher tertiary institutions, whilst poly education is to prepare them for workforce. But as we can see, more poly grads are aiming to enter our local unis too. And because the learning environment at the poly is similar to the uni, the learning curve is shorter. And from what I understand, PW and internships were introduced to the JC curriculum to help bridge this gap.
This is good analysis - thanks for sharing.
If I am not wrong, Poly education is more diverse and hands on whereas JC is more academic n analytical. So I guess MOE is trying to match students from both types of institutions inorder to prepare them better for Uni education? Am I rite to say this?zbear:
It really depends. There are many factors to consider as to whether a JC/poly student may do well or not in uni, and may not be due to just strong writing/analytical skills alone.I am wondering (as I have very little knowledge of Poly education) - for those who take up Law n Management Course (as one eg) in Poly, will they have problems later in the Uni as they probably may not have strong writing skills?
I am NOT saying that poly students will find difficulty in writing assignments in Uni. Likewise, there are straight As JC students who get B-/C grades at the uni. Sometimes it depends on the students' command of EL, sometimes it depends on how well and adaptable the student copes with the rigours of uni life, and his/her attitude & mindset. Like what I mentioned earlier, there are a lot of factors that can affect a student's acad performance. -
Based in what I have seen so far, if you can get 70 to 85 UAS scores, there is no problem to get in NUS, NTU amd SMU. Its a matter of getting the course you want might be an issue. You can also try appeal. Seems that quite many get in local U. Maybe also due to the increase of more quotas for sporean students, i guessing.
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