Saint Andrews/ACS Rugby Brawl
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3Boys:
yeah..my hubby (from RI rugby) mentioned that too. He said fights were pretty common those days...but like what has been mentioned, no media coverage lah... and of course, parents were not involved.
Yeah, it did get passionate. Perhaps you are right and my memory fails me, and I am looking through adult lenses. I do remember once when one of our guys provoked the opposition (Dunearn Tech) by running the flag across their lines, and was tripped....oh boy, it was a tense few minutes.
I'll check back in 10 years when my son is playing 'B' division rugby!
Glad my son is not in rugby... :lol: -
ks2me:
A good punch in the face is usually bloody.....Tankee, the punch caused injury with blood....if they don't take tough action...you will find more bloody boys on the street.
Apology is not harsh at all, a gentleman needs to know how to stand up and apologise for causing the school shame. Even if he had a valid reason to punch, the act itself made it so wrong. We fight with brains, not fists.
Public apology is somewhat Japanese's style, not ours. He should apologise to the victim, victim's family and perhaps made to write an apology letter.
Absolute NO to suspension from lessons. -
Actually a temporary suspension may not be a bad thing for the boy. The matter is under further investigation and he would be getting alot of heat in the school. A temporary cool-off period for him in school is also good so he will not be subjected to alot of stares in school. For all you know the temp suspension is only a few days. If it is too many days to affect his studies, his parents could raise their concerns to the school.
For blowing the matter into media, he is lucky not to face expulsion from the school for his impulsive act.
Imagine the injured boy is your son, would you say and think the same? -
Thought there was further mention that someone (not sure if it’s the same ACS boy) batted a fallen SAS boy on the head, said something not quite complimentary about him and his mother. A bit like that World Cup (whatever match) where the footballer headbutted the other guy?
It’s not right to punch that guy up, I agree.
But it’s definitely not right to taunt your opponent like that. At that age, probably he felt that to whack and defend your honour is important. Complaining will only lead one to be deemed a ninny?
Out in the streets, this guy would not have just got bloodied nose - he would be in the morgue. I think if it’s true, that ACS kid should also be punished.
I think SAS has done right in suspending the kid from school colours, but suspend from class? not right. Then again, it’s their perogative. I just wish the best for boys on both sides and may they and other schools learn a lesson from this. -
tankee:
Btw, this is the difference between mums and dads. Dads would describe a punch as being good, even if it causes severe injury. Mums would say, any punch, unless in self-defence, is never considered good.
A good punch in the face is usually bloody.
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ks2me:
Always depend on whose side the parent is on. Dads of the victim would not have said that lah.
Btw, this is the difference between mums and dads. Dads would describe a punch as being good, even if it causes severe injury. Mums would say, any punch, unless in self-defence, is never considered good. -
ks2me:
expulsion of students that misbehaved or done wrong from the school is never the solution. Most expelled kids will never get their act back together.....expulsion from the school for his impulsive act.
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Schools are meant to educate .... and not just academically. -
tankee:
Which is why they did not expel him but only punished him? But even punishment you feel it is harsh?? Personally I feel it is better to learn a lesson well, than learn it half-baked and repeat again.
expulsion of students that misbehaved or done wrong from the school is never the solution. Most expelled kids will never get their act back together.ks2me:
....expulsion from the school for his impulsive act.
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Schools are meant to educate .... and not just academically. -
hquek:
Can you share the article on the ACS provoking the SAS boy?Thought there was further mention that someone (not sure if it's the same ACS boy) batted a fallen SAS boy on the head, said something not quite complimentary about him and his mother. A bit like that World Cup (whatever match) where the footballer headbutted the other guy?
It's not right to punch that guy up, I agree.
But it's definitely not right to taunt your opponent like that. At that age, probably he felt that to whack and defend your honour is important. Complaining will only lead one to be deemed a ninny?
Out in the streets, this guy would not have just got bloodied nose - he would be in the morgue. I think if it's true, that ACS kid should also be punished.
If this was true, it would have still been silly of the SAS boy to respond and be at a losing end on his own. If there had been witnesses, the ACS boy should be asked to make an apology for his obnoxious remark, lacking in sportsmanship. In fact, best time to set record straight with ACS boys, and let this news go to the media instead. Unity is strength, if the whole SAS team pressured the coach of ACS team for that apology, it would probably have been better. They learn team sports but never appreciate the essence of team strength.
If we think that out on the streets, the ACS boy would have ended in the morgue...isn't that a scary thought that these kids have gone to good schools in vain and ruin their own future:? -
ks2me:
Saw it in yesterday's Straits Times. http://meltwaternews.com/prerobot/sph.asp?pub=ST&sphurl=www.straitstimes.com//Sports/Story/STIStory_514194.html
Can you share the article on the ACS provoking the SAS boy?
If this was true, it would have still been silly of the SAS boy to respond and be at a losing end on his own. If there had been witnesses, the ACS boy should be asked to make an apology for his obnoxious remark, lacking in sportsmanship. In fact, best time to set record straight with ACS boys, and let this news go to the media instead. Unity is strength, if the whole SAS team pressured the coach of ACS team for that apology, it would probably have been better. They learn team sports but never appreciate the essence of team strength.
The Straits Times also obtained a copy of a private e-mail sent out by SAS principal Belinda Charles to the St Andrew's chairman, board of governors, management committee, Alumni Executive Committee, Parent-Teacher Association, and House Committee.
In it, she explained that the incident started after 'an ACS player batted the head of an SAS player who was still lying down and taunted him as a loser and made uncomplimentary remarks about his mother'.
The observation in her e-mail was similar to allegations the SAS' rugby adviser Richard Vanderput made after the incident on Monday.
He said: 'The question here is what did that ACS boy say to our player.
'Is this what they teach them in schools?'ks2me:
No. I'm just saying that taunting people and making uncomplimentary remarks is not becoming of any person who aspires to be a gentleman. These kids are from good schools - why resort to taunting and name calling to get your opponent all riled up?If we think that out on the streets, the ACS boy would have ended in the morgue...isn't that a scary thought that these kids have gone to good schools in vain and ruin their own future:?
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