Raffles Institution (Year 1-4)
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Nebbermind:
Khaw came from Chung Ling. Many of my Malaysian friends were from Chung Ling.
Maybe Khaw came form a kumpong schooljetsetter:
Most ministers (not looking beyond Cabinet yet) are in their 50s. So ask yourself, which were the top JCs that top O level students in that age group would typically pick in that era? It could be RJC, HCJC, NJC. Fewer from TJC. Therefore, you'd see more from these top 3 JCs.
Were TPJC and YJC around yet? JJC was around but was pitched at a diff group of O level applicants.
If you wait for a few more elections to pass, you might see more from NUSH, VJC, DHS perhaps.
There's currently one from VJC, Lawrence Wong.
The JCs/high schools of some Cabinet ministers like Yaacob, Khaw, Gan, Iswaran are not published.
You mustn't just look at their JCs. Many came from neighbourhood primary and secondary schools.
Anyway, pls note he is in his early 60s. Colombo Plan was THE in-thing during his generation.
Think let's don't narrow our view by looking at the public sector. Do look at the top honchos in the private sectors too. -
jetsetter:
Yalor. I was wondering how come politicians become a benchmark for success.
Think let's don't narrow our view by looking at the public sector. Do look at the top honchos in the private sectors too. -
Almost everyone I know at RI strives to be the best they can be, to get the best learning experience they can fr the school. That environment is something I appreciate. Opportunities are aplenty, no doubt. Some of these opportunities are not found in other jc.
Because they strive for the best, they also strive to go to the best unis offering their desired course.
Scholarships and being top doesn’t matter to everyone. However it matters to some. I know of student A and student B who have both gained admission to top uni in UK, student A to a more difficult and highly sought after course. Student B is already making accommodation prep and can’t understand why student A isn’t doing that cos getting accommodation is pretty competitive there too. The reason is because without a scholarship, student A can’t afford to go. And student B exclaimed why would student A want a scholarship and be bonded?
This shows there are many who do not understand the value of a scholarship simply because they do not need one. Period. -
jetsetter:
Most ministers (not looking beyond Cabinet yet) are in their 50s. So ask yourself, which were the top JCs that top O level students in that age group would typically pick in that era? It could be RJC, HCJC, NJC. Fewer from TJC. Therefore, you'd see more from these top 3 JCs.
Were TPJC and YJC around yet? JJC was around but was pitched at a diff group of O level applicants.
If you wait for a few more elections to pass, you might see more from NUSH, VJC, DHS perhaps.
There's currently one from VJC, Lawrence Wong.
The JCs/high schools of some Cabinet ministers like Yaacob, Khaw, Gan, Iswaran are not published.
You mustn't just look at their JCs. Many came from neighbourhood primary and secondary schools.
I think the initial discussion - are RI students disadvantaged? So there is no need to look further back into neighbourhood primary n secondary schools.
We are also looking at the 2nd generation leaders n not those in the 50s, so again, its irrelevant.
NUSH, DHS, VJC, NJC and TJC are not mid tier n low tier JCs, point irrelevant.
I DONT wish to go into another heated debate of top vs 2nd tier JCs.
As our Minister says, ALL SCHOOLS ARE GOOD. RI IS GOOD because they take in strong academic students who are capable of being stretched beyond their curriculum. Teachers are mentors n nurture them to higher levels so that they can contribute back to society as leaders of tomorrow.
No school is perfect. There will be some students (especially those who DSA into top IP JCS via sports n weak academic backgrounds) who will suffer. These are the parents who are to be held responsible becos they know that their kids will not be able to cope with studies n CCA. They will suffer. Wont they be better off in mid tier/low tier JCs where they can shine n do better at their own pace?
Low tier JCs like Jurong JC, Pioneer JC, Serangoon JC etc are GOOD too. Not becos they don't produce many 8As/7As students. They are good becos they give hope to students who are less academically inclined to pursue their dreams of attaining a decent education n a decent job later on. The teachers hand hold them n walk them through JC years. Its a very different kind of learning experience which will be more suitable for these students.
All schools give opportunities to all students (whether academically smart or not). Its up to the parents n students to search for a good fit school where you can excel in your areas of strengths (not necessarily academic).
Will a academically strong student who can do even better in RI fit into JJC or any low tier JCs? He will be bored n loses his sense of competitiveness.
Will a academically weaker student can do well in RI when he/she has limitations? He will be mentally stressed, has low self esteem n probably ended up getting low grades.
Parents with kids in RI n top tier JCs do not need to feel proud/elitist/superior about their kids. Parents with kids in low tier JCs do not need to feel ashamed of your kids. Everyone has their own strengths n weaknesses. Bottomline is your child is given an opportunity to bloom through correct channels, be happy with his education and get a good job later.
Top students will probably face more stress in trying to achieve success becos they cant afford to fail. Is this what parents with lesser academic inclined children want?
BTW, I shouldn't be in this home thread as my kids are not from RI.
I just feel the need to voice my opinions as I find that at the end of the day, many parents are still NOT CONTENTED with their children's ability n want more.
Our education system is so stressful, why do you need to stress our kids even more?
I may be offending many parents out there so please forgive me for my bluntness.
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Anyone can post in any school thread. Don’t think there’s any restriction.
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doodley:
What in your opinion is the value of a scholarship?
Scholarships and being top doesn't matter to everyone. However it matters to some. I know of student A and student B who have both gained admission to top uni in UK, student A to a more difficult and highly sought after course. Student B is already making accommodation prep and can't understand why student A isn't doing that cos getting accommodation is pretty competitive there too. The reason is because without a scholarship, student A can't afford to go. And student B exclaimed why would student A want a scholarship and be bonded?
This shows there are many who do not understand the value of a scholarship simply because they do not need one. Period. -
jtoh:
What in your opinion is the value of a scholarship?
Different people value scholarships differently. Some see it as prestige, others see it in monetary terms. Some see it as opportunities to otherwise untrodden territory. Others see it as being able to serve in an organization where their passion lies. The list is not exhastive.
It depends on what one needs. -
jtoh:
In this case, how do the RI students get University placings before the release of the A Level results? Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.randwick:
How useful or how recognisable is the Raffles Diploma? Anyone can share?
Don't think it's of much use. -
randwick:
In this case, how do the RI students get University placings before the release of the A Level results? Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.[/quote]Are you referring to local or overseas unis?jtoh:
[quote=\"randwick\"]How useful or how recognisable is the Raffles Diploma? Anyone can share?
Don't think it's of much use. -
randwick:
In this case, how do the RI students get University placings before the release of the A Level results? Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.[/quote]Very much dependent on day to day performance and their international competition results plus CCA. The RD is much much more than cognitivejtoh:
[quote=\"randwick\"]How useful or how recognisable is the Raffles Diploma? Anyone can share?
Don't think it's of much use.
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