* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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mindays:
Sorry for the inconvenience caused, it should be 10-20% in the year 2013. (as explained in my previous post)
I disagree with you.Sieg:
[quote=\"mindays\"]
Do not forget that about 20-30% of MJC cohort retains yearly. MJC is well-know to be a school that has the highest retain rate. So 9 students out of 10 from MJC made it to local University, but 2-3 out of 10 took 3 years to do it. Do you not think the extra year of JC curriculum play a role for that \"on-par\" results?
Since 9 out of 10 is kind of vague, we do not know the actual discrete numbers. However, I must agree with you that the results are pretty good
DS' senior in MJC JC2 this year said that last year MJC only retained approx 7% of its pupils (or 50+/700 pupils), not 20% - 30%!
May I know what is the averaged retention rate for NYJC?
Thank you for providing MJC's latest retention rate.
MJC's retention rate for 2015 is 7%
From what I know, NYJC's retention rate is about 4%[/quote]If you are so calculative and precise about percentage, NYJC retention rate is about 5%, 35/700 = 5%.
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Mindays, since you have insisted that you are not from NYJC and has no direct interest in this college, I suggest you stopped boasting about it in a rather offensive manner as it is tarnishing my good impression of NYJC.
Thank you and please accept my apology for being frank.
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Th following information was extracted from another KSP thread on the latest A level result:
Based on the statistics posted, the top 10 ranking of JCs based on 2015 A levels performance is:
1. RI
2. HCI
3. VJC
4. NJC
5. DHS
6. RVHS/ ACJC
8. NYJC depending on the stats for TJC & AJC
Most think that the current COP of NYJC is not an accurate gauge of its A level performance. It has just gotten popular for other reasons. -
blurblob11:
Perhaps you may have overlooked my bolded \"main\" word.
NYJC rejects aren't just from RI and HCI only but VJC and NJC as well. I think it is not gracious of you to post the rejects of other JCs as well. Morever, some chose the JCs based on their comfort zone, proximity to home, etc and not all are rejects but have chosen the JCs as their first choice.mindays:
Yes, we have to see whether NYJC can sustain its low cut-off point. Most students indeed come from Nan Chiau HIgh School. Chung Cheng High School (Main), Anderson Secondary School, Maris Stella High School, Catholic High School. Notice that 4 out of 5 of these schools are Chinese schools, so expect some Chinese culture ingrained in them. While I agree that students in NYJC could be a reject of RI, HCI etc, it is the same for all JCs. Take a look below:
Main students in the respective junior colleges
NJC: Rejects of RI, HCI
NYJC: Rejects of RI, HCI
TJC: Rejects of VJC, NYJC
MJC: Rejects of TJC and SAJC
SRJC: Rejects of SAJC
TPJC: Rejects of SRJC
IJC: Rejects of ALL JCs
You are right, because NYJC has the Chinese Language Elective Programme, it makes NYJC distinctive from other JCs that do not offer this programme.
Yes, EJC is coming up and students will be readily checking it out. Hope to see more interesting things from EJC. I went to the Eunoia Junior College Outreach Event. I must say, I have a good feeling about EJC.
Let me explain why I did not mention NJC and VJC but rather RI and HCI.
RI is rather close to NYJC, it is located at bishan area. jetsetter has also said that students who couldn't make it to RI will look for the nearest JC in their vicinity, which is NYJC.
HCI was chosen too, admitting the fact that they do offer CLEP. HCI is a Chinese school, so is NYJC. So, those who wanted to pursue CLEP in HCI may be rejected and hence, chose NYJC as a substitute. Or students who want the Chinese culture but got rejected by HCI, will most likely end up in NYJC.
VJC was not chosen because they are too far apart. If you say it is close and convenient, do you know that many 2 pointers who are more than eligible to enter RI chose VJC instead? And since NYJC is closer to VJC as compared to RI, it certainly does not make sense that NYJC comprises of rejects from VJC.
NJC was not chosen because the main students who are in NYJC are not MAINLY rejects of NJC.
I do not do that for fun or to bring down other JCs.
I think it is not gracious of others to imply that only NYJCians are rejects of RI (jetsetter).
I agree with you that not all of the students are rejects but have chosen the respective JC as their 1st choice. This applies to ALL JCs. -
blurblob11:
I agree that nobody knows whether the students took 3 years to achieve 78 RP and above. But, my point of showing that post is to justify the teachers' hard work for the students. I do not post this to \"boast\" how well the DSA students fare, even though they did well. My main purpose for that post is to provide further information for prospective parents. Are you one of them?
As what you had suggested about MJC earlier, nobody knows if the DSA students constitute majority of the 30+ (not 30 only) students who took 3 years to achieve 78 rank points.mindays:
A release of results from NYJC, click link to see the full details.
Information about DSA students. I presume the DSA students in NYJC have an average L1r5 of about 13. (20+6/2)
3 in 5 DSA students got 78 Rank Points
3 in 4 attained value-added results in the A levels
https://scontent-sin1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=57DF1E93
This tells us that the teachers there can make a difference to every NYJCians, regardless whether they are DSA Students or not. -
I disagree with you.
DS' senior in MJC JC2 this year said that last year MJC only retained approx 7% of its pupils (or 50+/700 pupils), not 20% - 30%!
May I know what is the averaged retention rate for NYJC?[/quote]
Sorry for the inconvenience caused, it should be 10-20% in the year 2013. (as explained in my previous post)
Thank you for providing MJC's latest retention rate.
MJC's retention rate for 2015 is 7%
From what I know, NYJC's retention rate is about 4%[/quote]
If you are so calculative and precise about percentage, NYJC retention rate is about 5%, 35/700 = 5%.[/quote]
Since you used the word \"calculative\" and \"precise\", I gather that 35 and 700 are your \"precise\" data. I heard that out of 712 students in 2015, 32 of them retained. That amounts to 4% (rounding to the nearest whole number). I wonder where did you get your 35 and 700? I notice your word \"about\". Why did you bring up calculative and precise then? Are you stirring up unnecessary inconvenience to other readers and I? I certainly hope that you are not :xedfingers: -
blurblob11:
Blurblob11, thank you for recognising that I am not from NYJC. I do not see how my posts can lead you to thinking that I am boasting about NYJC in an offensive manner. Which post did you refer to? I do not see the need to boast in a forum because parents will have done their due research and HW on the respective colleges. I share information which may seem to be a sort of \"boast\" to you. Truth to be told, I used hedging in all my posts. I am careful not to generalise. I have to reiterate that I am not here to bring up NYJC or pull down the rest. I justify for ALL JCs. This brings me to a heavily sought-after question.Mindays, since you have insisted that you are not from NYJC and has no direct interest in this college, I suggest you stopped boasting about it in a rather offensive manner as it is tarnishing my good impression of NYJC.
Thank you and please accept my apology for being frank.
Q: Why did you come to KSP?
A: I couldn't tolerate how parents or students :xedfingers: who do not know NYJC well enough come to this thread and post false information or perception. As such, there is a need for me to voice out my thoughts. I am not here to create a ruckus because it is time consuming and mentally draining. I do have work to do after all. I have noticed the quality of KSP forum has also dwindled these months. Students can easily create multiple accounts and try all ways to downplay any JCs that they dislike. Hopefully the administrators can do something about it. -
candyfan:
Th following information was extracted from another KSP thread on the latest A level result:
Based on the statistics posted, the top 10 ranking of JCs based on 2015 A levels performance is:
1. RI
2. HCI
3. VJC
4. NJC
5. DHS
6. RVHS/ ACJC
8. NYJC depending on the stats for TJC & AJC
Most think that the current COP of NYJC is not an accurate gauge of its A level performance. It has just gotten popular for other reasons.
Let me show you statistics of TJC and AJC.
TJC: 152 students scored 3 H2 content distinctions. 96.2% qualify for University Admission (notice that it includes all university worldwide and not just local). 18 subjects (including H1 H2 H3) achieved above national distinction rates
AJC: 127 students scored 3 H2 distinctions or more. 45.7% scored 80 RP or more. So the majority (54.3%) of them got lower then 80 RP.
http://www.temasekjc.moe.edu.sg/qql/slo ... phics.jpeg
http://ajc.edu.sg/
NYJC had an averaged RP of 81 for the 2015 batch. My question is, are you sure this ranking is credible? I find it dubious. Anyone can come up with a ranking like this. There again, I must admit that it is indeed difficult to compare with such little resources.
Yes, I agree that NYJC is indeed popular and most think that the current COP of NYJC is not an accurate gauge of its A level performance. I must say, birds of the same feather flock together. The majority of students in NYJC are 6 pointers (nett) or below (though there are 7 pointers (arts) but they are not the majority). This means that the peers you work with in subjects like Project Work will most likely be a 6 pointer nett or below. Do you not think it will play a part in the PW results which is also related to A level performance? -
Besides, students are impactful and are great influencers. In RI case, you work with 2-3 pointers. In NYJC, you work with perhaps 6 pointers or below. In TJC, you work with 9 pointers or below.
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mindays:
TJC has a cohort of about 600, while NYJC has more than 700. Thus you can't use the absolute number of 3H2 distinctions scorers to compare.candyfan:
Th following information was extracted from another KSP thread on the latest A level result:
Based on the statistics posted, the top 10 ranking of JCs based on 2015 A levels performance is:
1. RI
2. HCI
3. VJC
4. NJC
5. DHS
6. RVHS/ ACJC
8. NYJC depending on the stats for TJC & AJC
Most think that the current COP of NYJC is not an accurate gauge of its A level performance. It has just gotten popular for other reasons.
Let me show you statistics of TJC and AJC.
TJC: 152 students scored 3 H2 content distinctions. 96.2% qualify for University Admission (notice that it includes all university worldwide and not just local). 18 subjects (including H1 H2 H3) achieved above national distinction rates
AJC: 127 students scored 3 H2 distinctions or more. 45.7% scored 80 RP or more. So the majority (54.3%) of them got lower then 80 RP.
http://www.temasekjc.moe.edu.sg/qql/slo ... phics.jpeg
http://ajc.edu.sg/
NYJC had an averaged RP of 81 for the 2015 batch. My question is, are you sure this ranking is credible? I find it dubious. Anyone can come up with a ranking like this. There again, I must admit that it is indeed difficult to compare with such little resources.
Yes, I agree that NYJC is indeed popular and most think that the current COP of NYJC is not an accurate gauge of its A level performance. I must say, birds of the same feather flock together. The majority of students in NYJC are 6 pointers (nett) or below (though there are 7 pointers (arts) but they are not the majority). This means that the peers you work with in subjects like Project Work will most likely be a 6 pointer nett or below. Do you not think it will play a part in the PW results which is also related to A level performance?
For AJC, 45.7% scored above 80 rank points.
For NYJC, the average is 81 rank points. As to how many of them actually gotten above 80 rank points is unknown. It could be lower than AJC's 45.7%.
For PW, you mentioned earlier that NYJC distinction rate had been consistent at 65% in the past. Someone mentioned it was below 40% for 2015 batch. However, for TPJC (COP 13), the PW distinction rate is above 70%. So there is no correlation between O level points and % of PW distinctions in any JC. The quality of PW work of each JC is regulated by SEAB.
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