All About Active Community Leaders
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Victory088:
can quit one what.waterbay:
I think the subject poster said they appeal, got adviser to endorse. Probably that's why it went to a appeal process that MOE will come in.
My fren who is in the same predicament was simply told he is not eligible (18 months of service), and adviser will not endorse appeal.
Ya.... I 21 montha PA ask me go fly kite! The amount of work I involved this 21 months is totally wasted. Best part, they just promoted me with new appointment for another 2 year term. How you feel?
why do volunteer work until so unhappy ? -
the spirit is wrong bro.
without benefits, you still see old uncle/auntie (no business connection for sure) stay in RC and serve for 20+ years.
free t shirt? buffet? medal? garden party tickets? carpark? maybe, i don't know what keeps them going... maybe they just like to kpo kpo here and there?
the benefits is a reward......
if PA chooses to be upfront, it becomes like an contractual entitlement liao.... weird right?
me?
mixture of reasons keep me going on.
30+ years old kpo man.waterbay:
Hmm... 3 months off is really a pity. There is no way you will be given this privilege as PA (or MOE) has all along been quite strict wrt their policy, especially now everything is processed thru the system. As brought up in above threads, some tried the appeal route thru adviser also failed.
There seems to be a lack of communication/transparency between 2 party on this issue. Your eligibility could be checked beforehand with your Chairman or CM, however being \"tactful\" is the key. I hope you hv not been given empty promises as this is a sure way to \"chase\" people away.
I think it'll be good if PA could be upfront on this new 2 year of service requirement for P1 priority eligibility, applicable wef 2016 P1 registration. They need people to support community activities and you need some \"help\" to get into a school near your place. At this point, both party can gain from working together (starting from a \"short\" 2-3 years to mayb a longer relationship). -
skii:
can quit one what.Victory088:
[quote=\"waterbay\"]I think the subject poster said they appeal, got adviser to endorse. Probably that's why it went to a appeal process that MOE will come in.
My fren who is in the same predicament was simply told he is not eligible (18 months of service), and adviser will not endorse appeal.
Ya.... I 21 montha PA ask me go fly kite! The amount of work I involved this 21 months is totally wasted. Best part, they just promoted me with new appointment for another 2 year term. How you feel?
why do volunteer work until so unhappy ?[/quote]I agree with skii.
The news for the extending the length of GRL service was out in Jun 2014, you should have already known at that time is not on your side, but you have stayed on and served your community. The past 21 months should provide you with valuable experiences and hopefully your involvement have positively impacted your neighbours, that counts for something, right? -
skii:
I agree that his/her initial intention may not be totally in the right spirit. But my personnel experience is we do have some difficulties to get the younger generation to join grassroots, not to mention coming for the activities organized.the spirit is wrong bro.
without benefits, you still see old uncle/auntie (no business connection for sure) stay in RC and serve for 20+ years.
free t shirt? buffet? medal? garden party tickets? carpark? maybe, i don't know what keeps them going... maybe they just like to kpo kpo here and there?
As you see yourself a portion of the members are long timers, and usually the laojiao \"siam\" organizing of events which will fall on these \"newcomers\" (willing and full of energy). We do appreciate they doing their part, else regulars will \"burn-out\" involving in all the activities (eg. door to door distribution of SG50 funpacks, getting pioneers for health screening).
I know RC/NC that don't really hold any activities as they simply do not hv people. Most of the time they just gather, have the monthly meeting and drink coffee. After awhile, they juz closed down.
So is there a more inclusive/holistic of getting Singaporeans to get start and understand in volunteering works? Maybe I must sign up more courses to understand better. Haha...
I love to hear more and I'm sure I've lots to learn. Thanks. -
troychua79:
I agree with skii.skii:
can quit one what.
why do volunteer work until so unhappy ?
The news for the extending the length of GRL service was out in Jun 2014, you should have already known at that time is not on your side, but you have stayed on and served your community. The past 21 months should provide you with valuable experiences and hopefully your involvement have positively impacted your neighbours, that counts for something, right?
I had refrained from saying this but it's true. There is no contract, after all it's \"Volunteering\".
In my words, I had hoped he will have a frank talk with his Chairman or CM wrt his disappointment. Then he has to decide if this worthwhile for him to continue.
On my side, we are quite transparent on this issue (it's not a hush hush topic) to people who come in to volunteer. Maybe it's about integrity, as we do not want to put them in any falsehood while they are really contributing. Yes... quite a few didn't return after they know they are not eligible. -
waterbay:
I agree that his/her initial intention may not be totally in the right spirit. But my personnel experience is we do have some difficulties to get the younger generation to join grassroots, not to mention coming for the activities organized.skii:
the spirit is wrong bro.
without benefits, you still see old uncle/auntie (no business connection for sure) stay in RC and serve for 20+ years.
free t shirt? buffet? medal? garden party tickets? carpark? maybe, i don't know what keeps them going... maybe they just like to kpo kpo here and there?
As you see yourself a portion of the members are long timers, and usually the laojiao \"siam\" organizing of events which will fall on these \"newcomers\" (willing and full of energy). We do appreciate they doing their part, else regulars will \"burn-out\" involving in all the activities (eg. door to door distribution of SG50 funpacks, getting pioneers for health screening).
I know RC/NC that don't really hold any activities as they simply do not hv people. Most of the time they just gather, have the monthly meeting and drink coffee. After awhile, they juz closed down.
So is there a more inclusive/holistic of getting Singaporeans to get start and understand in volunteering works? Maybe I must sign up more courses to understand better. Haha...
I love to hear more and I'm sure I've lots to learn. Thanks.
From my experience, the difficulty in recruiting young volunteers certainly is a big issue for older estates as the ratio of young residents are lower. But regardless of whether the members are old-timers or newcomers, the RC can still be a active one, it all boils one to the chairman's leadership. If the chairman is bo chap type, the RC/NC will suffer definitely.
For me, I just moved into a new estate where we have no lack of young volunteers but most are very greenhorn, they come in with agendas and for the fringe benefits, like Pri School priority, business contacts, etc. The saddest thing is that most talk a good game but cannot deliver when it matters, and the RC have a weak chairman as well, so I don't know how long they can last. -
Thanks for sharing.
Yes. Every estate has different demographic. Having a good leader can change the dynamic and passion of the group. However, if this group of newbies just joined with gains in mind, it will be difficult to foster a warm family relationship. -
Can I check, with the new 2 year ruling for grassroot work together with the ambiguity on when the work is actually accountable (eg. being an observer for xx amount of time), is it still worth doing it?
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hi all,
can i ask a technical qn here?
say i am living in GRC A, RC A - exe. member for 5 years.
i shift house to GRC B in 6 months time, (Dec 2016)
successfully transferred to RC B - exe. member
for the next 1.5 years, i happy happy, continue doing what i always did, in GRC B.
(Jan 2017- June 2018)
come MOE P1 registration, will the adviser of GRC B sign my form for Phase 2B?
(June 2018)
Do you all have any real examples of success or failure cases?
SK -
skii:
No.hi all,
can i ask a technical qn here?
say i am living in GRC A, RC A - exe. member for 5 years.
i shift house to GRC B in 6 months time, (Dec 2016)
successfully transferred to RC B - exe. member
for the next 1.5 years, i happy happy, continue doing what i always did, in GRC B.
(Jan 2017- June 2018)
come MOE P1 registration, will the adviser of GRC B sign my form for Phase 2B?
(June 2018)
Do you all have any real examples of success or failure cases?
SK
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