Joseph Schooling Does Singapore Proud!

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zbear:

cool_hi:

https://www.facebook.com/nicholas.lee.16940/posts/10153632748626415


Hope some companies can step out and sponsor him..
Though No support from the beginning..
But now is still not too late..esp his parents are getting older..

Thanks for the link. It's sad that our garmen does not support local talent as much as foreign talent.

At the end of the day, our local talent brought in the Gold solely on his own self unlike a Bronze from foreign talent who costs more to support.

Is that why Quah doesn't want to try for 2020 Olympics anymore?

Which Quah are you referring to? The Quah family has produced 3 national swimmers, in which 2 are representing Singapore in Rio 2016.

While I don't think that's the reason why Quah (I am assuming Zheng Wen) doesn't want to try for 2020, the support for upcoming local athletes from the Gov are certainly appalling. That said, those support are NOT lacking after they won something important though (and suddenly, everyone seems to have play a significant part in their development). If only the Quah (or those who are so eager to bask in JS glory) can afford US$1m* to send him to US, maybe we could have another medalist apart from JS in Tokyo 2020.

*US$1m is about 0.3% of the S$500m+ of the outstanding tuition fee loans and study loans given out to students of institutes of higher learning. I believe someone should really revisit our Gov priorities.

[sharonkhoo]

zbear:

Thanks for the link. It's sad that our garmen does not support local talent as much as foreign talent.


At the end of the day, our local talent brought in the Gold solely on his own self unlike a Bronze from foreign talent who costs more to support.

Is that why Quah doesn't want to try for 2020 Olympics anymore?

For foreigners, I believe they need to have proven themselves first? Our govt doesn't support them from the beginning. I do feel that more support needs to be given to our own sportskids, accepting that there will be a high attrition rate. We can't expect them all to be able to fund their own training till they have achieved something. And I also feel that there are too many jumping on the \"we played a part\" bandwagon! If he come in unplaced, would they have said anything?

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slmkhoo:

For foreigners, I believe they need to have proven themselves first? Our govt doesn't support them from the beginning. I do feel that more support needs to be given to our own sportskids, accepting that there will be a high attrition rate. We can't expect them all to be able to fund their own training till they have achieved something. And I also feel that there are too many jumping on the \"we played a part\" bandwagon! If he come in unplaced, would they have said anything?

Depending on your definition of \"proving themselves\". Some are brought in young, and solely kept based on their estimated potential. Those who succeed eventually, stayed. Those who don't, say goodbye. It's like a job, with citizenship (that few care about) attached.

However, the Gov does support them from the beginning as they are brought in here to train. So there's a stipend plus accommodation, education, etc that the Gov takes care of.

BTW, while I say the Gov support is appalling in my previous post, it should be noted that there's a spexScholarship available for our athletes. The top tier athletes (which JS also belongs to) can receive a monthly stipend of up to $8,000. While the cash injection is welcome, I am not sure that's the level of support that will ensure our sporting success*

*Off topic: I was thinking about the baby bonus. While the cash injection is also welcome, it didn't really solve our growth rate, resulting in the mass import of abled bodies.

[zbear]

floppy:

Which Quah are you referring to? The Quah family has produced 3 national swimmers, in which 2 are representing Singapore in Rio 2016.

While I don't think that's the reason why Quah (I am assuming Zheng Wen) doesn't want to try for 2020, the support for upcoming local athletes from the Gov are certainly appalling. That said, those support are NOT lacking after they won something important though (and suddenly, everyone seems to have play a significant part in their development). If only the Quah (or those who are so eager to bask in JS glory) can afford US$1m* to send him to US, maybe we could have another medalist apart from JS in Tokyo 2020.

*US$1m is about 0.3% of the S$500m+ of the outstanding tuition fee loans and study loans given out to students of institutes of higher learning. I believe someone should really revisit our Gov priorities.

Yes, I am referring to Quah Zheng Wen. I see he has potential n like u said, if given support all the way, I believe he can also produce a medal. I read that he didn't apply for NS deferment, that is why I concluded he doesn't want to try the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. Not every family can afford financial support like JS, so it's really a loss to our nation.

This is another sore thumb of our garmen - locals are never given priorities. Afterall, isn't sponsorship from taxpayers' $$$? Shldnt we support local talent first? It takes 7 years for JS to reach the podium, success is not overnight but our garmen would much prefer sponsoring foreign talent whom they deemed to stand a better n quicker chance of attaining international glory.

Watching the Women Table Tennis semifinals is just like watching China A Team vs China B Team.

Also didn't the silver medalist simply retired back to her homeland after being sponsored by us, taxpayers? Is there anything to be proud of?

[zbear]

What is the big deal of passing a motion in Parliament to officially recognize JS achievement? What is the significance of this act? Does it change anything?


Why is it mandatory for JS to give back 20% ($200k) back to the Association when they didn’t do anything for him? Isnt his training all these years in USA n will be for the next 4 years?

[cool_hi]

zbear:

What is the big deal of passing a motion in Parliament to officially recognize JS achievement? What is the significance of this act? Does it change anything?


Why is it mandatory for JS to give back 20% ($200k) back to the Association when they didn't do anything for him? Isnt his training all these years in USA n will be for the next 4 years?

Ya man!!
So meaningless.

Talk is cheap+FOC..
Real Action speaks louder than words!

To people who criticise us for criticising,
We are merely speaking up for the Schoolings whom we observe
To be extremely gracious,&been fighting a silent battle..
We may seem to be ungracious in cirticising but it's for their sake..
Coz there is another important 4 years ahead..
&By then,His dad is 72 years old!!his mum 65!
Some of u people discussing & worry about retirement,
what about these 2 highly respectable elderly who made our 1st gold possible!!?
Shouldn't we let them age with less worries??
& let JS focus on training with no financial worries for his parents?!?
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请用实际行动表示支持！
No lip service please!!

[Sutton]

zbear:

cool_hi:

https://www.facebook.com/nicholas.lee.16940/posts/10153632748626415


Hope some companies can step out and sponsor him..
Though No support from the beginning..
But now is still not too late..esp his parents are getting older..

Thanks for the link. It's sad that our garmen does not support local talent as much as foreign talent.

At the end of the day, our local talent brought in the Gold solely on his own self unlike a Bronze from foreign talent who costs more to support.

Is that why Quah doesn't want to try for 2020 Olympics anymore?

I find it appalling that the Schoolings have actually spent US$1mil to nurture and fund their budding swimmer son to realise his dream of becoming an Olympic medallist. And that money has to come from Joseph's aging parents' pocket? What has the G been doing for him all these years in terms of financial support?

Now that Joseph's dream has come to fruition, his gift money of SGD1 mil has to be taxed and so forth, such that he is left with only 2/3 of the money. To begin with, has the G or Sports association granted him with at least $300k to support his exploits in swimming all these years? Our foreign imports have certainly received much much more in comparison from the G for their sporting talents. What a shame! How could the G not identify such a gem in JS right from the start and do all possibles to facilitate his journey and pursuits in education and swimming? Instead he was granted a scholarship from the Texas university. It takes a foreign institution to spot our local rare gems and our G is probably good at spotting foreign talents.

The coming of Joseph Schooling has certainly shed some light into what our local talents have been going through in order to realise their dreams and for us to seriously reflect on exactly how much and how far we can do for them to facilitate and make their journey less complex, but more enriching and fulfilling. Needless to say, financial support is topmost.

It takes extraordinary leaders to make ordinary people extraordinary.

Colin and May Schooling are undeniably the most extraordinary leaders in the life of Joseph Schooling.

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Why is people surprised by the 20% rule?

Ok, I understand no one really follow sports until something big like JS comes along, but the ploughing back to NSA rule has been there since the http://www.singaporeolympics.com/multi-million-dollar-awards-programme-map/ was incepted.

It isn't the first time that JS is receiving http://www.singaporeolympics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/MAP-2012-to-2015.pdf so he definitely understand the rules. $10k for his first gold in a SEA Games, $200k for his first gold in the Asian games are some examples of what he has received (before deductions) over the recent years. Add them all up and I would expect no less than $300k.

[jtoh]

zbear:

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Yes, I am referring to Quah Zheng Wen. I see he has potential n like u said, if given support all the way, I believe he can also produce a medal. I read that he didn't apply for NS deferment, that is why I concluded he doesn't want to try the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. Not every family can afford financial support like JS, so it's really a loss to our nation.

Maybe Zheng Wen is going to focus on uni? He has a place in medicine.

[zbear]

jtoh:

zbear:

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Yes, I am referring to Quah Zheng Wen. I see he has potential n like u said, if given support all the way, I believe he can also produce a medal. I read that he didn't apply for NS deferment, that is why I concluded he doesn't want to try the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. Not every family can afford financial support like JS, so it's really a loss to our nation.

Maybe Zheng Wen is going to focus on uni? He has a place in medicine.

Oh really? Then it's better for him to build his career rather than swimming. He has to take care of himself since Ah Gong is not going to do anything.

DH told me that a Malaysian medalist (silver) received cash award n pension for life. That is really something!