* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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roborovski:
I realised this post written by crester was directed at me. Indeed, those highlighted phrases aren't my thoughts but more of crester's personal interpretations and thoughts. Don't put words into my mouth. I posted my opinions based on past experiences I had with principal(s) and teacher(s):
Jetsetter, this one has even more prominent verbal abuses, and making presumptions and wrongful interpretations, twisting views of others and drawing his own conclusions to get back at other members at the expense of the new principal and nyjc staff.Crester:
I'm back.
I had disappeared as I wanted to see how my gal is coping in NYJC before sharing in this thread.
Briefly, NYJC teachers have been very helpful, my gal is not doing well in 1 H2 subject and her NY tutor took the effort to give her 1-1 coaching. Other jcs tutors may also do that but we are talking abt NY here.
For more sharing, interested parents can drop me a PM as \"those keen NYJC parents will come in to criticize my sharing.\"
Next issue, we have been too nice to those non-interested NYJC parents. Other than Mindays, hey you non-interested NYJC \"parents or students\" got nothing better to do in yr daily lives but just keeping appearing here for what..
Regard the new P from Manjusri Sec. Whats wrong with Manjusri Sec ah? You parents (yes you know who you are), please don't pretend to be concerned abt NYJC fate under the new P. You parents only want to spread fear that under new P, NYJC will fall.
When AJC, SAJC, TJC,JJC changed new P early this year, why none of you appear to show concern?
Oh just because NYJC new P is from Manjusri Sec is it. What kind of parents are you telling your kids that neighbourhood Sec P is not good enough or better be worried. Don't discriminate against such school, ok. Dont pretend to show concern.
Under the new P, why would things be different, fools? You mean like all hell breaks loose kind?
The current efficient VPs are still around to support the new P. Give up on those parents( if they are even parents).
Next, 1 fool said NYJC teachers will relax or change under the new P. Don't undermine NYJC teachers and shows respect, ok fool. What right you have to put such uncall words abt NYJC teachers.
FYI, NYJC teachers have already planned the academic programmes for next year JC2 level. My gal received the programme schedules for certain subjects.
I pity your children having such \"parents\" who kaypo abt NYJC yet not keen in NYJC. These people lives only revolve spreading bad news abt NYJC. Pathetic.
1 of them (yes you )said with the new P, no more keen in NYJC. So be it, then don't opt for NYJC. Nobody begs you to choose NY. Get Lost!
Another fool parent said NYJC doesn't divulge its results. I don't mind that. I can get the results from the NY teachers. If you think too troublesome to ask, that's your own problem.
NYJC doesn't show its results in web site but it has been producing commendable A level results like UAP of 81 points in this year A level exam. I was in NYJC hall when this year A level was released.
Other than results which is impt, there are students/parents who choose a JC based on other factors.
NYJC has been awarded the BEST 5 Practises Awards and other Awards by MOE recently (refer to school web site).
So to those fools, get out of this Forum!
People have eyes to see and decide for themselves abt NYJC. Dont come and stir shit.
I will not reply to those fools' replies. I'm sure they will appear. Dont want to waste my time.
p/s: Crester mentioned someone posted \" someone said NYJC teachers will relax or change under the new P\".and \"What right you have to put such uncall words abt NYJC teachers\". Can please direct me to those post(s) that specifically mentioned these? If not, Crester is liable for wrongly interpretation and false accusation.
Dc's friend injured himself during PE and a staff came by to pray for him. She did it spontaneously and out of concern even though she's in a secular school. Personally, I felt disturbed. I stated that Manjusri is a Buddhist school, as pointed out by jetsetter, because if you go to the school website of Manjusri you can see much widespread of Buddhism. I was just worried that the principal is a very religious person at that moment.
As for the matter on how teachers may change, well we are human beings. I had experiences with teachers who were very passionate about teaching during their first few years in their career but once gotten married and had kids, and as they need to devote more time for their families, they weren't as committed as before. It's understandable and acceptable to me. I was citing the possibility of changes in people when/if opportunities arise in general.
I have no control on how you want to interprete my posts but I believe I have made myself clear. -
jetsetter:
Can you enlighten me about MOE taking note of ksp criticisms? :evil:I'll be kaypoh one last time: MOE has taken note of the above criticisms. Hence this article on 31 Oct to bring justice to both current and new NYJC Ps!
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/principal-philosophy-of-teachingput-kids-first
Didn't any of those parents read this? All diam diam?
How does it relate to that article?
Since when are Straits Times reporters under MOE?
I shall send an email to clarify with MOE whether it's true that whenever it detects doubts from public about the capability of a staff as compared to another more experienced one, it will treat it as 'criticism' and contact The Straits Times to interview his staff so as to generate favorable publicity. Is that what you mean, jetsetter?
Did anyone criticize the current principal such that justice must be brought?
I don't see how that article could bring justice to the new principal when the interview was focused on the current one? On the contrary, I feel that its content will only put more pressure on the new principal. -
Yet, just when you thought the door has closed, another window opened.
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KTKS has apologised, let this matter at rest. I don’t think we should escalate it further.
As for robo’s view, are you representing the minority view? If you want to talk about justice, Straits Times should really do a report for ALL new 61 principals. That will serve you ‘justice’ right? Mr Kwek was featured because of his unwavering service to the schools he was appointed to. Finally, he is able to retire and will pass the baton to Mr Low. Shouldn’t we recognize the glorious achievements of Mr Kwek and embrace the new principal? (instead of spending your time grieving over loss?) -
roborovski:
I am not trying to side anyone but EpicReborn is just a Secondary 4 student, 16 years old? Would you clarify second chance? And what has that got to do with NYJC? (is it a standard practice of all JCs)
Jetsetter, don't you think MOE should look into issues such as the above experienced by EpicReborn who should have been given a second chance?
Instead, you are 'threatening' parents here by bringing in MOE on an issue concerning the thoughts of ksp about possible changes to a school due to new appointment by MOE.
You are also belittling Mr Low's confidence in his leadership by exaggerating his feelings towards some comments posted in this thread and possibly underrating the emotional stability of nyjc staff.
Perhaps Mr Low is more upset that there isn't much sign of welcome by the existing students and parents in this forum. Instead, much positive information had been posted about the current principal and the achievements he has brought to nyjc.
My question is: Is it possible that none of the nyjcian parents are upset about the departure of Mr Kwek and totally embrace the new principal without a second thought? At least we are honest enough to express our doubts which Mr Low can assume as constructive 'criticisms' if he would ever visit this forum.
As much as you see that mindays have an interest over nyjc, I feel the same goes for you. Oh yes, you do. You have friends who know Mr Low personally. We all have some kind of connections or interests on things we support or oppose to.
Do give others space to voice their views.
Roborovski, I would appreciate if you can list your points in a more systematic manner instead of lumping them all. I feel that you seem to be using different ways to come to a centralised point. If you want to debate, do it with a more professional style. Thank you -
mindays:
You mabok or what? Direct this to jetsetter!KTKS has apologised, let this matter at rest. I don't think we should escalate it further.
As for robo's view, are you representing the minority view? If you want to talk about justice, Straits Times should really do a report for ALL new 61 principals. That will serve you 'justice' right? Mr Kwek was featured because of his unwavering service to the schools he was appointed to. Finally, he is able to retire and will pass the baton to Mr Low. Shouldn't we recognize the glorious achievements of Mr Kwek and embrace the new principal? (instead of spending your time grieving over loss?) -
mindays:
You need more 'brain juice' to understand, not my problem.
I am not trying to side anyone but EpicReborn is just a Secondary 4 student, 16 years old? Would you clarify second chance? And what has that got to do with NYJC? (is it a standard practice of all JCs)roborovski:
Jetsetter, don't you think MOE should look into issues such as the above experienced by EpicReborn who should have been given a second chance?
Instead, you are 'threatening' parents here by bringing in MOE on an issue concerning the thoughts of ksp about possible changes to a school due to new appointment by MOE.
You are also belittling Mr Low's confidence in his leadership by exaggerating his feelings towards some comments posted in this thread and possibly underrating the emotional stability of nyjc staff.
Perhaps Mr Low is more upset that there isn't much sign of welcome by the existing students and parents in this forum. Instead, much positive information had been posted about the current principal and the achievements he has brought to nyjc.
My question is: Is it possible that none of the nyjcian parents are upset about the departure of Mr Kwek and totally embrace the new principal without a second thought? At least we are honest enough to express our doubts which Mr Low can assume as constructive 'criticisms' if he would ever visit this forum.
As much as you see that mindays have an interest over nyjc, I feel the same goes for you. Oh yes, you do. You have friends who know Mr Low personally. We all have some kind of connections or interests on things we support or oppose to.
Do give others space to voice their views.
Roborovski, I would appreciate if you can list your points in a more systematic manner instead of lumping them all. I feel that you seem to be using different ways to come to a centralised point. If you want to debate, do it with a more professional style. Thank you
To help you a little, I was referring to jetsetter's view that MOE should be concerned about forummers' views in this thread but I feel that MOE (if they have time to spare) should look into the plight of EpicReborn instead as he was denied a second chance, get it??
Don't bother to comment if you are too lazy to follow this forum through.
Are you trying to create more misunderstandings since you have no relation with nyjc, which I am not surprised? -
mindays:
Bear in mind that they are DSA students whose L1R5 are usually above the COP of NYJC. Such results are indeed not bad. On what basis do you mean by \"care too much\"? Were you part of the culture? Have you ever experience it before making such a statement? I agree that people like to speculate about things that are in trend, but please do not go overboard.[/quote]I shall retract this piece of comment I posted which is not appropriate. You have been very provocative in your tone and thus my response to you, mindays. And also to crester with your (literally) filthy language. :yikes:roborovski:
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As I have mentioned, the results released from ACJC and TJC are not DETAILED. \" ACJC also posted information such as % of improvement on several subjects as compared to the previous year\" This statement brings me to another point, which subject? magnitude of percentage? magnitude of subjects? You see, these are questions left hanging for the public. This is intentional because ACJC follows the MOE directives too. If you are dying for NYJC results (before you say \"NYJC had none.\") here is one small source for you http://nanyangjc.moe.edu.sg/prospective-nyjcians/admission-details/direct-schools-admission-dsa
So NYJC only cares about attracting DSA pupils as it doesn't care to show any stats to the general public after the A-level result release.
Instead of stating 6 out of 10, it sure looks better with 3 in 5 secured > 78 rank points in the 'ad'. Frankly, it's not a result I would die for, especially after all the care efforts the poor teachers put in and also after the parents' collaboration in caring for their kids' schoolwork (another link).
In fact students of this age would prefer to be, should be or learn to be independent and work with teachers themselves instead of getting parents constantly involved, as if they are still in pri sch. But well, now I see that its nyjc unique chinese culture to care too much and risk being over-protective and suffocating the students. :sick:
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Wasn't intending to hit at nyjc at all. -
Gentle reminder, mindays. You have mentioned that you were from VJC. Really? In this case, please don't tarnish vjc image by posing to be an nyjc diehard defendant with your harsh tones and poor attitude to flip discussions into arguments. Otherwise you are doing a great disservice to vjc.
Peace :xedfingers: -
mindays:
Thank you.KTKS has apologised, let this matter at rest. I don't think we should escalate it further.
It's your turn and also Crester's to apologise to me and I shall let the matter rest too. Read through all the posts from page 23 if you cannot recall.
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Ah well, I am a magnanimous parent so I will not bear grudges against the 2 of you.
mindays, don't use strong words to any member in future. You have a bad habit of turning nasty if others can't see eye to eye with you.
crester, refrain from calling people fools or use uncouth words.
If you think my contribution to this forum will adversely affect how others view nyjc, I am flattered. Have confidence in nyjc. I have a feeling that you are worried about its popularity and cop next year based on your earlier posts before pg 21. In addition, we parents can only advise our dc about jc choices but they will still have the final say. I am not ruling out the possibility that my dc may join his friends to choose nyjc. They will not consider things like caring culture or new leader. To them, friends are the most important.
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