* Millennia Institute (MI)
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floppy:
I'll be a PITA and put on my black hat.janet88:
[quote=\"floppy\"]I know a number of MI students who retake some O level subjects as private candidate. Most of the time, they have particular courses in poly in mind but have missed the COP. Some did well for the retake and qualify for the course that they like (there are others who don't improve, but I think it's generally easier to improve on Maths and languages). IMHO, it's a wise move because there's little point in sitting for A level but not able to qualify for the local university course that they want.
son qualifies for 2 courses in ngee ann and SP. i did advise him to consider appealing to either of these poly since he is a hands on person more than the academic type.
My only word of advice is don't get fixated by the choice of polytechnics. My impression is that your son is not willing to consider beyond NP or SP. Unfortunately, restricting the choice to just 2 polys only is selling himself short. There are IT courses in RP or NYP that are similar to those in NP and SP that he is interested in, and he probably qualified easily for them. His results in O level does not give me a lot of confidence that he will qualify for the course of his liking in the local universities (but I reckon you know best his strengths and weaknesses).
I also find it hard to accept distance as a justification not to choose the other polys given that he is already a tertiary student. Besides, is NYP (AMK/Yio Chu Kang) or RP (Woodlands) really that much further than Toa Payoh?
Just my 5c.
Notwithstanding, now that he has decided on MI. Just have to work out and use this free time to work on his subject weaknesses. Wish him all the best and to his appeal as well.[/quote]I agree with Floppy. I think the biggest issue is that, as people have mentioned before, is that with A levels, you are competing with the IP students, who are the top of the top, unlike O levels, which omitted these students. And as said before, A levels is much, much harder than O levels. If a child's not the academic sort and struggled with O levels, I think it would be extremely difficult to score well for A levels. I would also opt for poly. And I would disregard distance. 16 or 17 years old is way old enough to deal with a school further away and to manage their own time effectively. But of course, as everyone has said, if your son is firm on doing his A levels, then all the best
Just my opinion. -
in summary, while it's not impossible, it's also not too rosy!
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Nebbermind:
in summary, while it's not impossible, it's also not too rosy!
Nothing is impossible. One can keep trying and retake a few times until one gets into the desired uni course, but at the end of the day, you've to ask yourself, is that uni course going to help me in securing good employment n income? You've taken the longer pathway, econ cycles have come and gone, new talents have joined the pool and my peers have started bringing dough back home, but I am still mugging... -
Nebbermind:
in summary, while it's not impossible, it's also not too rosy!
i told my son, nothing is rosy whether he takes the poly route or the MI route. like what jetsetter mentioned, will the uni course be able to secure good employment & income to sustain the family? -
janet88:
well, that would be another 10 years time (MI/NS/Uni = 3/3/4 (post-NS waste > half year waiting for uni). Just focus on what is at hand (MI) lah!!Nebbermind:
in summary, while it's not impossible, it's also not too rosy!
i told my son, nothing is rosy whether he takes the poly route or the MI route. like what jetsetter mentioned, will the uni course be able to secure good employment & income to sustain the family? -
now we wait for 2nd feb for the posting results. before that, we all crow like roosters. ζεεθ΄’οΌεΏζ³δΊζγ
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hi parents,
may i enquire for year 1 students in science stream, do they learn H1 and H2 subjects or just H1??
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Just to point out that this article \"1 in 3 local university students admitted last year is a polytechnic student\": http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/1-in-3-local-university-students-admitted-last-year-is-a-polytechnic-student
can be quite misleading.
If one reads their definition of local university, one finds that SIM University (UniSIM) and Singapore Institute of Technology (SIT) are included. SIM is considered a private university (possible to become 6th Autonomous University but only very recently). SIT is specially catered for poly students, so naturally admits many poly graduates.
Hence, if one excludes SIM/SIT from the figures, most likely the figure is much lower than one-third.
In short, it is quite hard for poly graduates to enter the 3 universities NUS/NTU/SMU.
A poly GPA of 3.7 to 3.8 (around top 10% of cohort) is needed to enter NUS (excluding nursing, which is an exception since it is unpopular). For JC students, a grade of BBC will be sufficient to enter NUS, which is nowhere near the top 10% of the cohort. -
mathtuition88:
1. Statement isn't misleading as their definition of a local university is publicly-funded university, in which both UniSIM and SIT fall under (UniSIM is privately-managed but publicly-funded, and should not be confused with SIM).Just to point out that this article \"1 in 3 local university students admitted last year is a polytechnic student\": http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/1-in-3-local-university-students-admitted-last-year-is-a-polytechnic-student
can be quite misleading.
If one reads their definition of local university, one finds that SIM University (UniSIM) and Singapore Institute of Technology (SIT) are included. SIM is considered a private university (possible to become 6th Autonomous University but only very recently). SIT is specially catered for poly students, so naturally admits many poly graduates.
Hence, if one excludes SIM/SIT from the figures, most likely the figure is much lower than one-third.
In short, it is quite hard for poly graduates to enter the 3 universities NUS/NTU/SMU.
A poly GPA of 3.7 to 3.8 (around top 10% of cohort) is needed to enter NUS (excluding nursing, which is an exception since it is unpopular). For JC students, a grade of BBC will be sufficient to enter NUS, which is nowhere near the top 10% of the cohort.
2. It makes no sense statistically to pretend only NUS/NTU/SMU are local universities while the others are not. How about pretending some JCs are JCs (because a majority of their students make it to the 3 stated universities), and others are schools there to make up numbers (because only a handful of their students make it to the 3 stated universities). It's ok to look at the indicative grade profile of the individual university or a group of universities but that's a story for another day.
3. There are some biases in the grades selected. While a grade of BBC is probably sufficient to enter some NUS courses (actually, I only counted one - Nursing -based on the 10th percentile IGP, rest are BBB and above :scared: ), a poly GPA of 3.6 will get you into many courses (and for Nursing, GPA for the 10th percentile is only 3.39).
4. JC students are already the top 20% of the cohort (birth year). I guesstimate that finishing in the top half of JC results already place you in the top 10% of the cohort :skeptical: I doubt the top 10% of the JC students (probably top 1% of a cohort) compares very well to the top 10% of poly graduates (probably top 20% of a cohort).
5. There lies, damned lies and statistics. -
janet88:
All students learn (and are tested on) all 4 content subjects in Y1 as well as the H1 subjects. In Y2, the H2 subjects will take a back seat towards the end of the year so the students can concentrate on their H1, MT (if they are taking) and PW. The H2 material is spread over 3 yrs.hi parents,
may i enquire for year 1 students in science stream, do they learn H1 and H2 subjects or just H1??
thanks.
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