DSA 2017
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Grr_roxy:
Just curious. This issue was never addressed anywhere - If those kids DSA via sports and that their academic does not match the school's high standard, then what's going to happen later? Remember the RI boys case sometimes back? I guess sometimes we parents are just too caught up with the branded school and we overlook whether our kids can cope in that top tier school. I believe there are more such cases but they were never really publicly brought up except for once.
For RI, I believe a O level track was created for them.
Notwithstanding, it's the same for any students (DSA, meet COP, appeal, backdoor, Sorting Hat, etc) who do not meet the school's standards, they either transfer out, retain or get kick out.
IP drop to O, O drop to NA, NA drop to NT, NT ??? -
For DSA via non-academic domains, for example, Sports, can Schools set their own COP for confirmed offers (for example, say 230 hypothetically), or has MOE stipulated a COP strictly of 200?
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Grr_roxy:
Just curious. This issue was never addressed anywhere - If those kids DSA via sports and that their academic does not match the school's high standard, then what's going to happen later? Remember the RI boys case sometimes back? I guess sometimes we parents are just too caught up with the branded school and we overlook whether our kids can cope in that top tier school. I believe there are more such cases but they were never really publicly brought up except for once.
What if they were never expected to match the school's high standard right from the start? -
pirate:
I heard acs sec baker has all students from acs family. No room for outsiders.
Just curious, which \"branded\" affiliated secondary school has less than 20% of their places taken by students from outside and managed to stay \"branded\"? And how many of their affiliated students would have gotten in even without any affiliation discount anyway?ksks:
\"How to appease the powerful old boy's association ah if their offsprings cannot continue in their alma maters?\"
Do take note that many mps and ministers were previously from these branded affiliated schools. Unlikely the scheme will be totally removed given that all these mps want their generations benefit from their alma mater.
So this whole issue has a vested interest by many. Not as simple as we see lol. -
Nebbermind:
The RI case was quite sad. Given that they had to spend much time on training and competition ( including overseas competition) in an IP school, their studies will definitely suffer. They probably would have done better in their studies had they studied in a school with peers whose results are closer to theirs....perhaps, MOE should review the COP for this group...Grr_roxy:
Just curious. This issue was never addressed anywhere - If those kids DSA via sports and that their academic does not match the school's high standard, then what's going to happen later? Remember the RI boys case sometimes back? I guess sometimes we parents are just too caught up with the branded school and we overlook whether our kids can cope in that top tier school. I believe there are more such cases but they were never really publicly brought up except for once.
What if they were never expected to match the school's high standard right from the start? -
Nebbermind:
Yes, you are right. I believe having a category to DSA via sports is not to match the school's high standard. But if the kid's ability is too far away from the school's standard, then wouldn't the kid have problems coping? Imagine a 200 entry point vs those who achieve >260 to get into the school. Anyway, this is based on my personal views.Grr_roxy:
Just curious. This issue was never addressed anywhere - If those kids DSA via sports and that their academic does not match the school's high standard, then what's going to happen later? Remember the RI boys case sometimes back? I guess sometimes we parents are just too caught up with the branded school and we overlook whether our kids can cope in that top tier school. I believe there are more such cases but they were never really publicly brought up except for once.
What if they were never expected to match the school's high standard right from the start? -
Nebbermind:
Yes, you are right. I believe having a category to DSA via sports is not to match the school's high standard. But if the kid's ability is too far away from the school's standard, then wouldn't the kid have problems coping? Imagine a 200 entry point vs those who achieve >260 to get into the school. Anyway, this is based on my personal views.Grr_roxy:
Just curious. This issue was never addressed anywhere - If those kids DSA via sports and that their academic does not match the school's high standard, then what's going to happen later? Remember the RI boys case sometimes back? I guess sometimes we parents are just too caught up with the branded school and we overlook whether our kids can cope in that top tier school. I believe there are more such cases but they were never really publicly brought up except for once.
What if they were never expected to match the school's high standard right from the start? -
Yngmng:
What if they are passionate about their sports and had always wanted to do both concurrently?
The RI case was quite sad. Given that they had to spend much time on training and competition ( including overseas competition) in an IP school, their studies will definitely suffer. They probably would have done better in their studies had they studied in a school with peers whose results are closer to theirs....perhaps, MOE should review the COP for this group... -
ksks:
In the past, 100% of ACS Barker Road (not acs sec baker) of its Sec 1 students (Express) are from its 2 feeder primary schools - ACS (Primary) and ACS (Junior) based on S1 Posting Exercise. Exception was 1 year where they increased the number of Express classes at the last minute and there were 'outsiders' posted to ACS Barker Road.
I heard acs sec baker has all students from acs family. No room for outsiders.
But this is not the case for its N(A) and N(T) classes. There are 'outsiders' posted to this school in the S1 Posting Exercise.
So it is not quite right to say 'No room for outsiders'. But with this new MOE policy where 20% of its students must come from non-affiliated schools, those boys from its 2 feeder primary schools scoring low 20x (based on t-score) will face the likelihood of not being able to be admitted to ACS Barker Road Express stream during the S1 Posting Exercise.
Nonetheless, I am aware that there are 'outsiders' who are successful with their appeals to ACS Barker Road at Sec 1. Possibly due some of the ACS boys going overseas (because of parent's job posting) or transferring to international schools to continue their secondary school education. This frees up some vacancies for appeal cases. -
Nebbermind:
Then, they have to put in a lot of effort to do well in both...hopefully, they have supporting classmates and teachers ....
What if they are passionate about their sports and had always wanted to do both concurrently?Yngmng:
The RI case was quite sad. Given that they had to spend much time on training and competition ( including overseas competition) in an IP school, their studies will definitely suffer. They probably would have done better in their studies had they studied in a school with peers whose results are closer to theirs....perhaps, MOE should review the COP for this group...
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