DSA 2017

[Snsn]

Estéema:

Hi Snsn,

It will be based on MOE's queue & beyond each school's ability to help any student to convert.

The strategy to put a WL list before a CO or a preferred WL over ano not preferred WL is to hopefully hv the 1st choice WL get converted as applicant put this as top choice and not 2nd line consideration.

For a case with CO & WL, it's very clear to try put WL ahead as 1st choice in the event someone did release a place & u're next in the queue. But for others WL as 2nd choice, unless still hv places & not hot after, may be converted.

Option Form Scenario 1
1. WL School A
2. CO School B

Option Form Scenario 2
1. WL School B
2. WL School A

Candidate's choice of WL for School B slimmer chance.
Candidate's choice of WL for School A Higher chance for conversion, failing which CO is at hand to kick in.

If School A is not child's choice School, we will advise our child to focus & work hard towards PSLE to get in choice if School.

*. This not taking into consideration other factors of IP vs Express course, sort after CCA, etc.

Thanks very much Esteema for the detailed and clear explanation! Appreciate your effort in the details.

[Estéema]

Snsn:

Estéema:

Not unfair bcoz WL depends whether after all CO accepted anyone release. If no places released or few places offered to WL in queue and u are down the line, no chance to convert WL. But yr CO remains. You cannot participate in S1 posting thereafter once u exercised yr Options Form.

Agree. If a child has a CO, he/she earned it. However that school may not be their first choice, and if their first choice is one that they are on WL, they may want to try that as first choice, and the CO as 2nd choice would be their \"guaranteed\" option.

Yes, yes, yes. We're on same page now.

Hey, Snsn, can't catch up with u leh. Aging fingers can't type fast.

[broken]

So even if sch A is NUSH WL, sch B is RI CO. RI CO will not be lost if we place it second choice ??Really want to know. Thank you!

[Snsn]

Estéema:

Snsn:

[quote=\"Estéema\"]Not unfair bcoz WL depends whether after all CO accepted anyone release. If no places released or few places offered to WL in queue and u are down the line, no chance to convert WL. But yr CO remains. You cannot participate in S1 posting thereafter once u exercised yr Options Form.

Agree. If a child has a CO, he/she earned it. However that school may not be their first choice, and if their first choice is one that they are on WL, they may want to try that as first choice, and the CO as 2nd choice would be their \"guaranteed\" option.

Yes, yes, yes. We're on same page now.

Hey, Snsn, can't catch up with u leh. Aging fingers can't type fast.[/quote]LOL! My fingers have been well totured and trained by the constant refreshing of emails and this forum while waiting for the DSA outcomes! :rotflmao:

[Estéema]

Lavenderbloom:

Estéema:

Not unfair bcoz WL depends whether after all CO accepted anyone release. If no places released or few places offered to WL in queue and u are down the line, no chance to convert WL. But yr CO remains. You cannot participate in S1 posting thereafter once u exercised yr Options Form.

You might want to check this again with the school. According to the CO letter I've received, the place is only confirmed if my child ranks it as first choice in the option form.

I'm very certain :-

1. I've got the briefing slide (so kept reviewing it)

2. Based on a few other KSP gourmets alr consistently indicated, a CO is confirmed & allows u the space to try snag WL as choice School, owise can accept CO hence put as 2nd choice. You will definitely not loose yr CO, unless child cannot meet minimum of COP of Express Stream.

[phtthp]

Is there any MOE website link that state :

if put 1st choice as WL-school, while 2nd choice is the CO-school, you won’t lose the CO-school ?

Eg
1st choice WL-school : NYGH

2nd choice CO-school : Dunman High

(both are SAP schools)

[Estéema]

kay22:

Rainbow sky:

[quote=\"kay22\"]We attended a session at HCI too, for DSA students, they do not need to meet the COP. Those who are on waitlist now, to convert to CO, they must meet cut-off for express stream (200) and of course subjected to the vacancy available for WL. For all WL students now, their names have been submitted to MOE. Their system will generate who to be converted to CO if we submit the option form which will given to our DC on 30 Oct by their primary school. So on the actual day of results release, we will know if our DC is offered a place or rejected. If is rejection, then our child will have to follow the S1 posting.

All WL will be submitted to MOE? So allocation to WL after this is done by MOE rather than school?

Yes, that's right. The WL students will be ranked by the school and submit the list to MOE. Once all the students submit their option form to MOE, they will know how many CO are taken and how many declined the offer, or even how many actually reject the waitlist offer too. After all these have been calculated, MOE will know how many WL to be converted to CO (according to the ranking list given by school) and this will be make known to the child on the day when the result is release.[/quote] :goodpost:

[Estéema]

broken:

So even if sch A is NUSH WL, sch B is RI CO. RI CO will not be lost if we place it second choice ??Really want to know. Thank you!

Yes. RI will still be in your hands, whilst your other hand tries to chope NUSH WL (in case u're next. in queue when others release CO.

Anyway, u got WL for NUSH? I hardly hear of WL for NUSH. Well done!

[Snsn]

phtthp:

Is there any MOE website link that state :

if put 1st choice as WL-school, while 2nd choice is the CO-school, you won't lose the CO-school ?

Eg
1st choice WL-school : NYGH

2nd choice CO-school : Dunman High

(both are SAP schools)

Yes there is, here - http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59406

And more here
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59412

WL ranked by school's list here
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59414

[FantasyLandDreams]

Can I clarify for WL case:

If child 1 put School A as first choice, and child 2 put School A as 2nd choice, but child 2 is ranked higher than child 1 in the WL, child 2 will still get the vacancy before child 1? Meaning, order of choice does not matter?

( Assuming that child 2’s first WL choice did not get converted into a CO).