Networking Group - JCs General
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emoh:
Oh laidat uh.... quite strict tho
http://digitalsenior.sg/alternative-paths-for-alevel-or-polytechnic-graduates/ElaineK:
Does anyone happen to know what are the cases where \"U-turn\" is allowed for students already took A Levels to retake A Levels again the following yr and repeat JC2? Does retaking A Level require every single subject to be retaken? The criteria I suppose should be the same for all schs bah since is under national exams?
Though it is not immediately relevant to me but just curious to know more about the JC system. SEAB and JCs don't really offer these info readily :scratchhead: (perhaps is not advised?)
Thanks!
Retaking A-levels
Retaking the A-levels is never a popular choice. A majority of students who perform badly might want to retake A-levels in their respective JCs. However, to be eligible for that, one MUST fail a H2 subject or GP. For the majority of us that do not get into NUS/NTU/SMU/SUTD/SIT, our grades do not meet the criteria. We score CDD/C or DDD/D or even EEE/E. None of these scores are fail grades, hence, we technically pass the A-levels and are not eligible to repeat JC year 2. But these grades are also not good enough for the respective universities. So for those of us in this grey area, we have little choice but to re-take our A-levels as a private candidate.
As a reminder, GP and 3H2 must be taken in a SINGLE sitting. Your MT, PW and your contrasting H1 subject can be on a different sitting.
http://www.askadmissions.nus.edu.sg/app/answers/detail/a_id/719/~/retaking-the-singapore-cambridge-gce-a-level-exams
Retaking during NS is a popular choice amongst most guys. The problem is, for science students, your SPA practical results are only preserved for 1 year. Meaning that if you do wish to retake, you must do so the immediate following year. This might pose a problem for most guys since your first year of NS is the most ‘shiong’ due to things like BMT, SISPEC and OCS. For clerks and storemen, I would recommend that you retake your A-levels right away since you do not have these.
For the rest, you might want to consider retaking in your second year of NS. This means that you will have to sit for another practical exam for your science subjects. For most of us in our second year in permanent units, book outs become more frequent and you will have much more free time in camp to study as well. Don’t let the 2 years of NS go to waste. I’ve seen some of my peers bring their A-level notes up to Mount Biang in Brunei to study in the jungle and still make it to NUS in the end. If there’s a will, there is a way.
For those of you who decide to retake outside of NS or for those who do not have NS at all, you might want to consider going to a private school. MDIS provides A-level courses and it also provides lab sessions for those who need to retake their science practical. However, if you feel that you do not want to waste time travelling to and from school, you can consider private tutors as well. Just don’t blow up your kitchen trying to make a makeshift chemistry lab.
More info:
http://mdiscollege.edu.sg/index.php/preparatory-course-for-a-level
. Will take note in future in case my DD wants to go JC. Tks for the info @emoh @mindays!
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Actually, after merging JCs, how do they work now ?
Example
Anderson JC has recently
merged with another JC.
Does it mean that for JAE students (after taking O level), if they apply to Anderson JC : the COP of Anderson JC is now being lowered, because she has to accomodate another merged JC, or to increase her intake, because some other JCs also shut down ?
Also, within the newly merged Anderson JC, are they going to have different group of JC Teachers, teaching different group of students ?
.say, for example, one group of JC Teachers teaching those Anderson JC students, while another group of Tr teaching the other merged JC’s students into Anderson ? -
emoh:
Thank you! This was helpful.
Retaking A-levels
Retaking the A-levels is never a popular choice. A majority of students who perform badly might want to retake A-levels in their respective JCs. However, to be eligible for that, one MUST fail a H2 subject or GP. For the majority of us that do not get into NUS/NTU/SMU/SUTD/SIT, our grades do not meet the criteria. We score CDD/C or DDD/D or even EEE/E. None of these scores are fail grades, hence, we technically pass the A-levels and are not eligible to repeat JC year 2. But these grades are also not good enough for the respective universities. So for those of us in this grey area, we have little choice but to re-take our A-levels as a private candidate.
As a reminder, GP and 3H2 must be taken in a SINGLE sitting. Your MT, PW and your contrasting H1 subject can be on a different sitting.
http://www.askadmissions.nus.edu.sg/app/answers/detail/a_id/719/~/retaking-the-singapore-cambridge-gce-a-level-exams
Retaking during NS is a popular choice amongst most guys. The problem is, for science students, your SPA practical results are only preserved for 1 year. Meaning that if you do wish to retake, you must do so the immediate following year. This might pose a problem for most guys since your first year of NS is the most ‘shiong’ due to things like BMT, SISPEC and OCS. For clerks and storemen, I would recommend that you retake your A-levels right away since you do not have these.
For the rest, you might want to consider retaking in your second year of NS. This means that you will have to sit for another practical exam for your science subjects. For most of us in our second year in permanent units, book outs become more frequent and you will have much more free time in camp to study as well. Don’t let the 2 years of NS go to waste. I’ve seen some of my peers bring their A-level notes up to Mount Biang in Brunei to study in the jungle and still make it to NUS in the end. If there’s a will, there is a way.
For those of you who decide to retake outside of NS or for those who do not have NS at all, you might want to consider going to a private school. MDIS provides A-level courses and it also provides lab sessions for those who need to retake their science practical. However, if you feel that you do not want to waste time travelling to and from school, you can consider private tutors as well. Just don’t blow up your kitchen trying to make a makeshift chemistry lab.
More info:
http://mdiscollege.edu.sg/index.php/preparatory-course-for-a-level
Just to add, I used to think retaking is for those who didn’t do well. But there are people retaking A levels when they score 70+ and 80+ rp. This is what my ds’ army friends are doing. -
JAE-2018 Application Questions
Hi, Good day, I am new here and I would like to seek some advice for the JAE 2018 related questions and hope to hear from anyone for some good suggestions.
My son is currently studying in one at xxx polytechnic course and he is facing some challenges and trying to cope with the project-mates which are not very corporate at all, he had already tried to endure for some times and explored with many other options but to unavil, as such he has also loss the interests for the course and now he has decided to withdraw from the poly course and would like to re-apply JC in the coming JAE 2018 which he has intend to re-adjust himself for the next learning journey, kindly I would like to ask some of the questions and hope anyone has some similar experiences can share for a reference :
1.\tWhat is Best Avenue for the JAE-2018 application which my understanding this is only open early next month after the 2017 GCE “O” results to be released?
2.\tI had read the JAE-2018 booklet application flow chart shown that the eligibility is all SG citizen with any year GCE “O” exam result can participate but it also said that “except those who have been successfully admitted to a school Junior College (JC) / Polytechnic through the Direct School Admissions (DAE)…”, as my son went thro’ the JAE once for the poly course and he should be able to apply?
3.\tIn this case the JAE-2018 application he can only use the SingPass account ID to log-in for the JAE portal? As of now the JAE-2018 portal is still not open and cannot access to see for any instructions flow…
4.\tWill he be at any dis-advantage for the coming JAE exercise whereby he currently already in the Polytechnic course?
5.\tOne other concern I have is with the impending merger of 8 JC which it may results of reduce or decrease in JC students’ in-take and a possibility of affected merger JCs Cut-Off-Points be further reduce (or increase for some JCs)?
I would very much appreciate for anyone’s good suggestion and thank you.
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I think you should address you questions to MOE. Their customer service people are very helpful.
As far as I understand, DAE and JAE are different, so if your son has not entered via DAE, the restriction shouldn’t apply to him.
The merger of JCs should not prevent students who are eligible for JC from getting a place. That’s what MOE said at the time of the announcement. Your son might also want to consider MI which has a lower cut-off point but would mean and extra year of study. -
Many thanks to your quick reply.
Yes, I had tried the same to call the MOE customer services hotline and a few times the hotlines are quite busy and with a machine answering message for a question categories selection.
I also wrote an email to one of the JC for enquiry for the same questions and their reply were quite generals and official type indeed, I do understand that the question pertaining to the new merger JCs cut-off-points is a difficult one for them to answer at this point of time, nonetheless some of the pair of JCs last cut-off-points were a gap, for example for the west area of PJC/JJC there are 3-points apart...etc.
I sincerely and would very much appreciate in here KP platform whereby some parents whose has the similar experiences has helped their child successfully make a changed for their learning journey to share some of their views.
I thank you again for the reply and wish you a good day ahead.
Best Regards.slmkhoo:
I think you should address you questions to MOE. Their customer service people are very helpful.
As far as I understand, DAE and JAE are different, so if your son has not entered via DAE, the restriction shouldn't apply to him.
The merger of JCs should not prevent students who are eligible for JC from getting a place. That's what MOE said at the time of the announcement. Your son might also want to consider MI which has a lower cut-off point but would mean and extra year of study. -
richardhu828:
I guess MOE's Customer Service line is busy with parents calling about Sec 1 posting! Maybe if you try again in Jan you won't need to wait so long. As far as I can see, your son is eligible to apply to JC, and he can either get a Singpass and apply online once the application period opens, or apply in person at MOE. COPs are decided by demand and supply so only time will tell what they will be, though it is probable that those JCs which are increasing their intake because of the mergers will have an increase (ie. bigger no.) in COP. That's seems to be what is predicted on the MOE website. As for whether he is disadvanteged, maybe someone else will know? It is likely that the system will base his position in the exercise based on the O level results, even though they were taken before 2017.Many thanks to your quick reply.
Yes, I had tried the same to call the MOE customer services hotline and a few times the hotlines are quite busy and with a machine answering message for a question categories selection.
I also wrote an email to one of the JC for enquiry for the same questions and their reply were quite generals and official type indeed, I do understand that the question pertaining to the new merger JCs cut-off-points is a difficult one for them to answer at this point of time, nonetheless some of the pair of JCs last cut-off-points were a gap, for example for the west area of PJC/JJC there are 3-points apart...etc.
I sincerely and would very much appreciate in here KP platform whereby some parents whose has the similar experiences has helped their child successfully make a changed for their learning journey to share some of their views.
I thank you again for the reply and wish you a good day ahead.
Best Regards.
Perhaps you can ask more specifically about the issues you are concerned with involving the transition between poly and JC? I have had 1 daughter in MI and 1 in JC, and the one from MI was in poly briefly after her A levels (reverse order of what your son intends). So I guess I might possibly be able to answer some of your questions. -
Thanks again for prompt reply and I greatly appreciate your kind offering to share your daughter’s experience on poly and JC transition. As I am a newbie in KPS platform and do not have enough KiasuPoint$ to post in a specific topic thread for a discussion, please excused and allowed me just to add in a few moe replies in this JCs General thread to get some good advices from parents with similar experiences to share with me and hopefully I can also then can get some KiasuPoint$ as well to start a specific topic thread … I hope this is alright to do in here?
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You can ask, though I think parents with kids who have switched from poly to JC will not be many.
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Hi, Thanks and I am new still trying to navigate KSP platform for a similar topic but still yet to find one as this website has a large amount of useful contents and I’ll need some times to understand…for example, I am trying to find a way to click a like for your reply…
My immediate concerns and worries are as below:
1.\tMy son eligibility and he can get back to JAE-2018 system for a JC re-application, I had read the JAE-2018 booklet from MOE website and the flow-chart shown he can log-in through SingPass to get a Pin-Code to apply, for this we would like to reconfirm, if parents in KSP already gotten their child done this before, we would very much appreciate a kind help to share with us, as I think for students switched from JC to poly will be just a direct DAE application route due to all Poly new term starts are later than JC.
2.\tHe plan to apply for a JC near home in West area, but PJC and JJC will be merged and JJC will stop the in-take soon, hence this will be 2 choices being removed where the new COP is in the range of 12 to 15 for Science & 13 to 15 for Art, as he got a 14 points in his last GCE "O" level exam, I do understand at this point in time, it seem MOE still with no guideline or new reference on the 4 x JC pair new COP and we can only assume or essentially the next students in-take will be increased, as you’ve mentioned the COPs are decided by demand and supply and only time will tell.
*This is extract form the JAE-2018 Booklet page 98 said: “With the upcoming merger of four pairs of JCs, the remaining JCs will be able to increase their intake of students in the 2018 JAE. This may result in an increase in cut-off points for participating JCs in the 2018 JAE. Such variations do not reflect the quality of the JCs or their programmes….
For this my own interpretation of the above sentence; “ the remaining JCs will be able to increase their intake of students…” is meant to refer the remaining JCs of the 4 Pairs merger ? Or does it mean the other non-affected will also increase student’s in-take? Perhaps my interpretation may be not correct?
3.\tAs for more specific issues of concern I can think of now is his NS deferment which I will have to call MIDEF hotline to enquire further.
As you’ve also mentioned and offer some advises of your daughter’s experience on Poly to JC transition and I would very much appreciate to hear from your for any good suggestions or some good important pointers to take note before my son be accepted by the JC.
Thanking you again for your time for reading and reply my questions, with my warmest regards to you and all your family members.
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