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Hi all
I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.
I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).
My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?
If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?
If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful. -
still_learning:
1. Forget about Google map. Pretend it never existed (same goes to Apple map, Garmin etc). When it comes to P1 registration, there’s only ONE official source - OneMap.Hi all
I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.
I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).
My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?
If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?
If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.
2. If the rule says you can only apply to this GRC, no use appealing to another GRC. It won’t work (unless your surname is Lee - but then again, one Lee just got charged, so who knows
)
You can’t exactly stick to your existing address for this P1 exercise and change it to your new one once it’s over. Unless the distance to the school doesn’t differ between your old address and new address (ie both in the same bracket as <1km, 1km < 2km, > 2km), you would have breached the MOE rule and your child will be liable to be deported (ok, “transferred”) to another school.
Your only option, really, is to go to PA and let them know you are moving. They should be able to explain how that would affect your eligibility etc. -
hi,
is your kid born in 2012 (thus registering this July)
or after 2012 which means registering next year or later?still_learning:
Hi all
I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.
I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).
My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?
If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?
If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful. -
floppy:
Much appreciate the advice. Yah, I understand that moving would breach MOE rule, therefore, if I use current address and got into the school near my current address, I will move only after 30mths. However, I am refraining from doing so. Firstly, because we bought the house with the intent of owner occupation. It's not really near MRT and a little bigger, therefore, it would not be easy to rent out with a good rental (thou I also don't feel like renting out my new house). Secondly is because the school near to my current address is even more competitive that the school near my new address when it comes to P2B, for the past few yrs, it requires balloting even for Spore Citizen within 1km. Think it would be worse this year given that this year's registration are for children born in the year of dragon.
1. Forget about Google map. Pretend it never existed (same goes to Apple map, Garmin etc). When it comes to P1 registration, there’s only ONE official source - OneMap.still_learning:
Hi all
I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.
I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).
My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?
If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?
If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.
2. If the rule says you can only apply to this GRC, no use appealing to another GRC. It won’t work (unless your surname is Lee - but then again, one Lee just got charged, so who knows )
You can’t exactly stick to your existing address for this P1 exercise and change it to your new one once it’s over. Unless the distance to the school doesn’t differ between your old address and new address (ie both in the same bracket as <1km, 1km < 2km, > 2km), you would have breached the MOE rule and your child will be liable to be deported (ok, “transferred”) to another school.
Your only option, really, is to go to PA and let them know you are moving. They should be able to explain how that would affect your eligibility etc.
I tried calling PA but response was strictly only the GRC of the address that I use to register for the school. But I find this being a bit too restrictive, as that would mean if I want to enter P2B, I can only go to a school further away from my address. Doesn't this contradict MOE's intent of encouraging parents to register the school nearer to their place? My kids would have to walk a good 16mins to school instead of 8mins. PA staff said that I could only go for P2C for my case, but this would potentially be worse as if I couldn't get in via P2C due to over-subscribing, I may end up not in any of the 4 schools near my new place. Arrrggg... this doesn't work! =( -
still_learning:
Restrictive? Yes, but what else are you expecting from a one-size-fits-all policy?
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I tried calling PA but response was strictly only the GRC of the address that I use to register for the school. But I find this being a bit too restrictive, as that would mean if I want to enter P2B, I can only go to a school further away from my address. Doesn't this contradict MOE's intent of encouraging parents to register the school nearer to their place? My kids would have to walk a good 16mins to school instead of 8mins. PA staff said that I could only go for P2C for my case, but this would potentially be worse as if I couldn't get in via P2C due to over-subscribing, I may end up not in any of the 4 schools near my new place. Arrrggg... this doesn't work! =(
Not happy, talk to your MP about it - not to get him to write an appeal letter (because it won't work) but to get him/her to raise it in Parliament (though I doubt they would do it
)
That said, if you can't get into the school of your choice, that isn't entirely due to MOE policy / MOE fault. Just down to bad luck (or bad planning) that there are other equally staying nearby parents applying to the same school within the same phase.
Notwithstanding, the key point is you have \"options\" - much better than having no option in the slugfest. You have the option of using P2B or P2C, and the option of choosing a number of schools within P2B / P2C. -
floppy:
I don't know why you sounded upset. I think everyone are just trying to find the best case scenario when they can. That's why I am enquiring here. I am not blaming MOE policy, just wondering if there are alternatives for cases like mine. Understand that the policy needs to cater to all, but wouldn't by distance be a more logical way than by GRC? As we know, sometimes the way the GRCs areas that are cut out can be really wide and odd. I believe being near to school is more important (Maybe this is just my person thinking).still_learning:
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Restrictive? Yes, but what else are you expecting from a one-size-fits-all policy?
Not happy, talk to your MP about it - not to get him to write an appeal letter (because it won't work) but to get him/her to raise it in Parliament (though I doubt they would do it )
That said, if you can't get into the school of your choice, that isn't entirely due to MOE policy / MOE fault. Just down to bad luck (or bad planning) that there are other equally staying nearby parents applying to the same school within the same phase.
Notwithstanding, the key point is you have \"options\" - much better than having no option in the slugfest. You have the option of using P2B or P2C, and the option of choosing a number of schools within P2B / P2C. -
skii:
[/quote]hi,
is your kid born in 2012 (thus registering this July)
or after 2012 which means registering next year or later?
Hi, yes, my boy is born in 2012 (thus registering this July). -
still_learning:
Upset? Why should I be?
I don't know why you sounded upset. I think everyone are just trying to find the best case scenario when they can. That's why I am enquiring here. I am not blaming MOE policy, just wondering if there are alternatives for cases like mine. Understand that the policy needs to cater to all, but wouldn't by distance be a more logical way than by GRC? As we know, sometimes the way the GRCs areas that are cut out can be really wide and odd. I believe being near to school is more important (Maybe this is just my person thinking).
While distance may be a logical way of looking at things, there are also other logic to consider. One logic may, or may not, be better than another logic.
E.g. I would think that there is a need to look at how GRLs are being 'distributed' to schools. Otherwise, popular schools that are at the boundary of GRC (e.g. CHIJ SNGS) will face an overwhelming number of applications in P2B. There is a possibility that a significant number of GRLs within the GRC will be balloted out because of applications from \"out-of-towners\". As building a community identity is as important as registering at a nearby school, to ringfence against the possibility of \"out-of-towners\" gatecrashing the party, it could be argued that the GRC boundary is a more logical way than distance.
P/S: CHIJ SNGS is probably a bad example because it's already overwhelmingly popular without GRLs from AMK GRC. -
still_learning:
Hi, yes, my boy is born in 2012 (thus registering this July).[/quote]skii:
hi,
is your kid born in 2012 (thus registering this July)
or after 2012 which means registering next year or later?
few things to make sure
you must have 2 years continuous service ..... (best by 1st May 2018)
pls check
next, NRIC address as of 30th June 2018 - MOE will recognize that address for your kid's registration in July 2018
don't care if you have 2 houses or 10......
and IMPT ! both husband and wife's NRIC Address must be the same.
next, 30 months ----- if you have gain entry into the sch by using a distance based advantage
i.e. if you have not, you do not need to fulfil the 30mths requirement.
(example: 40 places, 35 applied [consiting of within 1KM and outside 2KM] , no balloting required, all gets in.... can shift house !!! )
lastly, logistic.......
factor into the morning kids going to sch jam..... -
Dear all KSPs,
I would like to ask if anyone here have experience if the estate you staying do not have any RC or NC.
What should you do?
Are you able to join the RC/NC nearest to your estate?
Or can choose the ones nearest to the school that you want to apply for?
Thank you in advance for the replies. :thankyou:
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