All About Autism
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Snow24:
Even many non-autistic toddlers also unwilling to sleep independently at that age. I believe it’s due to individual child’s personality. No point forcing until he’s ready.Hi
My toddler is sensitive to noise and light.When he go bedtime he need someone to company him to sleep.If company him he not yet fallen asleep.He will come and look for you.How do we get him to sleep by himself independently.
You can try all these suggestions here, hope it works for you: https://www.berkeleyparentsnetwork.org/advice/sleep/9alone
My DS suddenly mentioned in P1 Term 2 that he was ready to sleep without someone accompanying him. It worked out very well. Then suddenly relapsed back at the end of the year. Now P2 back to square one.
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My DD3 is having her SYF performance today.
After a few months of intensive training, multiple hiccups along the way, she is finally on her way to her event today. I am grateful that she gets an opportunity like this, for her exposure and to build her confidence. Nevermind that her dance steps are not perfect no matter how hard she practises. Nevermind that I am energy drained having to resolve various issues for her event along the way. Nevermind that the event is right smack during SA1 preparation.
I hope I won’t tear later as I watch her perform. -
immeemee, make sure all devices have enough charge for photos/video taking :rahrah: And bring along tissue paper arh
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MrsKiasu:
immeemee, make sure all devices have enough charge for photos/video taking :rahrah: And bring along tissue paper arh
Photo & video taking are strictly prohibited during SYF Arts Presentations. Gotta wait for teachers to whatsapp official videos
ImMeeMee: All the best! I think Modern Dance & Band should be the last 2 items this week. -
Zeit:
oh is it :oops: :razz:MrsKiasu:
immeemee, make sure all devices have enough charge for photos/video taking :rahrah: And bring along tissue paper arh
Photo & video taking are strictly prohibited during SYF Arts Presentations. Gotta wait for teachers to whatsapp official videos
ImMeeMee: All the best! I think Modern Dance & Band should be the last 2 items this week. -
Thanks for the well wishes.
She has really come a long way with her resilience. I guess it's Mummy's emo getting in the way here.
I am going to savour that few minutes of performance. Enjoy myself. -
Hi all mummies and daddies,
May I get some suggestions from here.
My son was born in Oct 2012 and he is due to register for P1 registration for mainstream school in a few days time. He holds long term visit pass and will have to register in phase 3. So the chance of getting admission is about 50%.
Here is brief info about my son:
- He is 5 and half years old.
- Currently attending MS childcare (AM session, everyday) with ABA therapist support (2 days per week, 2 hr per day) and 3 days with my helper helping him in the class and afternoon (3 days per week, 3 hr per day) in EIP program. And weekly speech therapy.
- He still can’t do conversation yet but he can express his needs (e.g., I want eat, I want juice, I want sleeping time, I want to go toilet, I want swimming, I want shower time etc.)
- He understands simple instructions only.
- Academically, he knows alphabets and numbers, knows quite a number of words and can spell. I guess his level is K1 level. He has zero knowledge of Chinese and he doesn’t attend Chinese class in his childcare.
I know my son is not ready for P1 definitely. I have checked with his teachers and they also think so. My plan was to defer him for one year for P1 registration (or more if necessary). But when I inquired MOE about the deferment, their reply is that I can’t defer him since he is a foreigner. I have to register this year or else sit for AEIS exam to enter the local school.
Could you please help me decide in the following options i can think of? or add on more options if you have.
1) Go ahead and register for P1 since this is the only chance he will get to go to local school other than sitting for AEIS exam. (What problems/difficulties can I face if he got the admission? Any experience to share?)
2) Send him to international school with special needs support (only 4-5 schools with annual tuition fees of about 35k.) (if we choose this option, we may not afford to send him for long term since the school fees is so high.)
3) 1-2 years in international school with supports and then transfer to private school with low annual tuition fees which we can afford long term.
Additional info - We both are PR for more than 10 years. We married here and our son was born here. Basically we settle down here already and we haven’t thought about the option of going back to our country. We applied PR for him three times and got rejected. We will continue applying in future.
Thanks a lot! -
Cool Cool:
You can defer. A friend of mine enquired with MOE and they told her that her child (also on long term visit pass) can enter local school up to 4 years later than his same-age peers. So probably a few years later, when he is ready, you can let him take the AEIS exam if he seems academically able. But then you have to think about his schooling in the meantime. Is his preschool offering an option for him to repeat K2 + therapy until he’s P1 ready?Hi all mummies and daddies,
May I get some suggestions from here.
My son was born in Oct 2012 and he is due to register for P1 registration for mainstream school in a few days time. He holds long term visit pass and will have to register in phase 3. So the chance of getting admission is about 50%.
Here is brief info about my son:
- He is 5 and half years old.
- Currently attending MS childcare (AM session, everyday) with ABA therapist support (2 days per week, 2 hr per day) and 3 days with my helper helping him in the class and afternoon (3 days per week, 3 hr per day) in EIP program. And weekly speech therapy.
- He still can't do conversation yet but he can express his needs (e.g., I want eat, I want juice, I want sleeping time, I want to go toilet, I want swimming, I want shower time etc.)
- He understands simple instructions only.
- Academically, he knows alphabets and numbers, knows quite a number of words and can spell. I guess his level is K1 level. He has zero knowledge of Chinese and he doesn't attend Chinese class in his childcare.
I know my son is not ready for P1 definitely. I have checked with his teachers and they also think so. My plan was to defer him for one year for P1 registration (or more if necessary). But when I inquired MOE about the deferment, their reply is that I can't defer him since he is a foreigner. I have to register this year or else sit for AEIS exam to enter the local school.
Could you please help me decide in the following options i can think of? or add on more options if you have.
1) Go ahead and register for P1 since this is the only chance he will get to go to local school other than sitting for AEIS exam. (What problems/difficulties can I face if he got the admission? Any experience to share?)
2) Send him to international school with special needs support (only 4-5 schools with annual tuition fees of about 35k.) (if we choose this option, we may not afford to send him for long term since the school fees is so high.)
3) 1-2 years in international school with supports and then transfer to private school with low annual tuition fees which we can afford long term.
Additional info - We both are PR for more than 10 years. We married here and our son was born here. Basically we settle down here already and we haven't thought about the option of going back to our country. We applied PR for him three times and got rejected. We will continue applying in future.
Thanks a lot!
An alternative is to enquire with special schools like Pathlight School? This school specializes in educating primary school age mild to moderate ASD kids. I don’t know for sure, but I believe they would allow transfer out to mainstream primary school later on, when the child is ready. https://www.pathlight.org.sg/admissions/admission-criteria
Note: although their admission page says they give priority to SC>PR>foreigners and their waitlist is long (meaning no immediate place for foreigners), you can try placing your child on the waitlist and inform them of both your backgrounds (applied for PR 3x etc). Maybe they will take that into consideration. -
Cool Cool,
You are caught in a very bad situation. No easy answers. My son is in Pathlight P2. The odds of a foreigner being admitted is very low. Even citizens have to wait >1 year. As Zac’s mum suggested, you can try applying. But be cognizant it is going to be a shot in the dark. In the meantime, you have to figure out something for your son to do.
My Pathlight son attended a Foundation year at Pathlight. Meaning he deferred one year. That Foundation year was useful in giving him time to catch up. After that Foundation year, he was ready to learn P1 school topics. And he transited smoothly into P1. I think at 5.5 yrs, he had better communication skills than your son. So it may be wise to defer your son for one year too.
I have a relative whose severely autistic son attended MS primary school without deferring. After the first year, the school insisted he employ a shadow teacher to accompany his son in class as a condition to continue schooling. I think the trigger was whether the child is disruptive to others, and he was. The cost of a shadow teacher is about $2k a month. Even then, everything went over the boy’s head i.e it was as good as not attending school. The boy learnt nothing. He had to repeat P2. By P3, the school eventually kicked him out. He moved to a Special Ed school (other than Pathlight). There are a few SPED schools in Sg. They may not be as popular or good as Pathlight. In the end, that child wasted the most precious years of early intervention. He is 13 now, and has the diction of your son.
Taking all the above into consideration, imho, it is better to let a child have some form of learning in an environment and pace he is comfortable with than to "force" him to learn at a level he is not capable of. Then, at least, there is some progress. What you want to avoid is a situation where he learns nothing. This will then run contrary to the concept of early intervention.
You are faced with a very difficult decision indeed.
Perhaps you may want to consider letting your son attend/repeat Nursery or K1 at a MS kindergarten if possible. Cajole, plead, beg the kindergarten. If a kindergarten refuse your son, you can try another. Fighting to let your son attend kindergarten is a much easier fight than battling MOE at primary schools. The idea is to find a pace where your son can latch on to some form of learning. Then, let him face P1 when he is ready.
I am not sure about AEIS exams and procedures for P1. Just giving view points from an aspie learning perspective.
Edit: My K1 niece visited me today. She has far better diction and communication skills than your son. She was quizzing me what are the names of the 5 oceans (really got 5??). So I am reminded of K1 pace. Editing to include Nursery level for your consideration. -
Hi Zac's mum and tyeogh,
Thanks for your reply. I did not expect to receive such a prompt response since this thread is not active nowadays.
Yeah. I will have to make very difficult decision. I asked my close friends who have NT kids and their response is to go ahead and apply for P1 since I only have this chance to enter government school (without passing AEIS exam) saying that my son will catch up later. When I checked with my son's ST and EIP teacher they all said that he is not ready for sure and will have a hard time in school. So I am checking here with the parents of SN kids to have parents' point of view.
I have checked with his current childcare principle about repeating K2 and she has no problem. So his schooling should be Ok in the meantime.
I have heard about AEIS exam; very difficult to pass and long waiting list of Pathlight even for Citizen children.
Tyeogh, you are right that my son's communication level is not even K1 nor 3-4 years old. That's why I am very unwilling to let him try P1. I can't imagine how he will be so lonely in school and how he can survive without understanding and communication. I can also foresee the problems will arise later and the need of shadow teacher.
I think I will have to decide based on my son's current condition.
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