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    Opposition pulls off shock victory at Malaysia GE14

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    • EstéemaE Offline
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      If Tun try to bend our arms for better deal or stall High Speed Rails, those who put in for investment ard JE will start feeling jittery.

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      • floppyF Offline
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        All this talk about cancelling / postponing the HSR is BS lah. Read this article https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/hsr-wasted-opportunity-if-kl-singapore-high-speed-rail-cancelled-10198022 for an insight on why this is 肥肉 that no one will be willing to let go... it’s in the last paragraph:

        [quote]The civil works for the HSR in Malaysia is expected to create about 70,000 jobs.

        It is also expected to create about 5,000 sub-contract packages where 40 per cent in value will be allocated to Bumiputera companies.[/quote]When Tun threaten to postpone / cancel the project, he’s simply signaling that these jobs / sub-contract packages must go to his supporters / donors / cronies.

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        • EstéemaE Offline
          Estéema
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          floppy:
          All this talk about cancelling / postponing the HSR is BS lah. Read this article https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/hsr-wasted-opportunity-if-kl-singapore-high-speed-rail-cancelled-10198022 for an insight on why this is 肥肉 that no one will be willing to let go... it’s in the last paragraph:

          [quote]The civil works for the HSR in Malaysia is expected to create about 70,000 jobs.

          It is also expected to create about 5,000 sub-contract packages where 40 per cent in value will be allocated to Bumiputera companies.
          When Tun threaten to postpone / cancel the project, he’s simply signaling that these jobs / sub-contract packages must go to his supporters / donors / cronies.[/quote]
          Ha, ha....

          And his job eventually goes to his 宝贝儿 after rendering 拿进 jobless. 😆

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          • starlight1968sgS Offline
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            I wonder what M has promised A and will he keep his words

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            • janet88J Offline
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              starlight1968sg:
              I wonder what M has promised A and will he keep his words

              that's what i'm also thinking. every father keeps the best for his kid.

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              • floppyF Offline
                floppy
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                starlight1968sg:
                I wonder what M has promised A and will he keep his words

                To seek a royal pardon for A. Otherwise, A would not be allowed to participate in future elections.
                (n.b. Singapore has a similar clause in Article 45 of the Constitution - essentially, would not qualify to be an MP if one is convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon)

                Keyword being \"seek\". Whether accept / agree to pardon A depends on the Agong (current Agong is the Sultan of Kelantan).

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                • janet88J Offline
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                  floppy:
                  starlight1968sg:

                  I wonder what M has promised A and will he keep his words


                  To seek a royal pardon for A. Otherwise, A would not be allowed to participate in future elections.
                  (n.b. Singapore has a similar clause in Article 45 of the Constitution - essentially, would not qualify to be an MP if one is convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon)

                  Keyword being \"seek\". Whether accept / agree to pardon A depends on the Agong (current Agong is the Sultan of Kelantan).

                  M has been sworn in as PM...now he would need to ask for a royal pardon of A. so right now:
                  1) will M keep to his promise?
                  2) depends on whether the Agong will pardon A and let him be the PM.

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                  • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                    Whether he kept this promise is not as impt as the impending HSR project which affects us.

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                    • floppyF Offline
                      floppy
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                      janet88:
                      floppy:

                      [quote=\"starlight1968sg\"]I wonder what M has promised A and will he keep his words


                      To seek a royal pardon for A. Otherwise, A would not be allowed to participate in future elections.
                      (n.b. Singapore has a similar clause in Article 45 of the Constitution - essentially, would not qualify to be an MP if one is convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $2,000 and has not received a free pardon)

                      Keyword being \"seek\". Whether accept / agree to pardon A depends on the Agong (current Agong is the Sultan of Kelantan).

                      M has been sworn in as PM...now he would need to ask for a royal pardon of A. so right now:
                      1) will M keep to his promise?
                      2) depends on whether the Agong will pardon A and let him be the PM.[/quote]M will definitely keep to his promise to seek a royal pardon. Why wouldn't he? Earn goodwill, gain respect and trust, etc. Sure win.

                      But M never promise A that he will definitely get it because M isn't the Agong and he doesn't control the Agong.

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                      • floppyF Offline
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                        starlight1968sg:
                        Whether he kept this promise is not as impt as the impending HSR project which affects us.

                        I still don't get why people are so concerned about the HSR unless they have bought some properties in anticipation of the HSR (or hoping to buy a property and live in MY) 😆
                        The second CBD is a catchy term, but most of the job opportunities (maritime, infrastructure development and technology sectors) in the second CBD aren't necessarily tied or reliant on the construction / presence of the HSR.

                        Most of the benefits for SG are described in vague macroeconomic terms, such as the convenience of being close to one another (err... SIN-KUL is the world's busiest air route and less than 45 mins flight time away), a quick and affordable way to get in touch to make friends and do business (err... you can choose between AK, TR, SQ, MI, MH, FY, OD, etc) and to be one integrated economy (???). This means opportunities for businesses, tourists and investors to get both destinations for the price of one (how is that different from today? Travel on the HSR isn't exactly free).

                        On the other hand, the benefits for MY are described in more precise terms, e.g. reduction in the exposure of commuters to road safety incidents, create 111,000 jobs, ignite catalyst projects such as Educity, Nusajaya Tech Park and Fast Track around Iskandar Puteri, contracts / sub-contracts for bumi companies, etc. Unless Singaporeans are keen to work in MY (and earning MYR 😂 ), I can't see how these developments will help us.

                        Maybe someone can enlighten me if I have missed something? Me not of the million dollar caliber.

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