Networking Group - JCs General

[Liangbrolovesoccer]

sunkc2000:

Is PW marked by their own JC teachers ?

Yeap internally marked, moderated by SEAB.

Usually most JCs do have 2 groups of PW teachers (each led by a senior teacher or HOD) that rotate to teach the subject every year, while another group would take up the grading of the Oral Presentation (OP), Written Report (WR) and Evaluation of Materials (EoM).

The grading will be based on general guidelines standardised by SEAB, and schools will moderate results base on internal moderators that will observe a few groups during Oral Presentations and random pick a proportion of WRs to work out the benchmark. In addition, SEAB would send moderators (which as referred usually as external moderators) that tags along with internal moderators to inspect randomly selected groups for their OP and WR, to evaluate the need for any moderation (so its usual that some groups mat have more than 7 examiners during their presentation). The results can be moderated up or down depending on individual school performance and marking standards in relative to other schools (usually down). (i.e. lets say the school's standard is 52 mark as A grade, SEAB may raise the A grade mark to 53, which those at 52 mark will drop to a B grade, vice versa)

[darnocwee]

Honestly speaking, PW grades depend a lot on the kind of teacher you get

[JJ1111]

darnocwee:

Honestly speaking, PW grades depend a lot on the kind of teacher you get

Agreed.

[lego]

Sorry riding on this thread , may I ask - how many hours of sleep does yr child get on average?

Just want to have a feel what the norm is like for a JC student.

[sharonkhoo]

lego:

Sorry riding on this thread , may I ask - how many hours of sleep does yr child get on average?

Just want to have a feel what the norm is like for a JC student.

It really depends. My daughter managed to go to bed by 11pm most nights while in JC, waking up at 6am. She stayed up to midnight occasionally (maybe a few times a term), and very occasionally (probably less than 5 times in a year) later than that. Her friends realised that she was an early-to-bed person, so they would schedule their PW discussions to start at 9pm, and try to let her go to bed by 11pm! They were quite an efficient bunch. But I know other students who don't sleep till 1-2am on a regular basis, so probably only get 4-5 hrs a night.

[lego]

slmkhoo:

lego:

Sorry riding on this thread , may I ask - how many hours of sleep does yr child get on average?

Just want to have a feel what the norm is like for a JC student.

It really depends. My daughter managed to go to bed by 11pm most nights while in JC, waking up at 6am. She stayed up to midnight occasionally (maybe a few times a term), and very occasionally (probably less than 5 times in a year) later than that. Her friends realised that she was an early-to-bed person, so they would schedule their PW discussions to start at 9pm, and try to let her go to bed by 11pm! They were quite an efficient bunch. But I know other students who don't sleep till 1-2am on a regular basis, so probably only get 4-5 hrs a night.

:thankyou: slmkhoo
Dd's usual bedtime is also 11pm currently, averaging about 7.5hrs of sleep on a normal school day.
Got a bit worried after reading one of the posts.
Don't think she will be able to cope well with 4-5 hours of sleep daily but your daughter's schedule seems quite doable.

[Estéema]

S’times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.


DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the "nice to haves" last priority. It’s good they learn to prioritize their time & resources in their learning journey. This much we can highlight to them right? To me they’ll still need some level of mentoring & direction - aka 指点指点

[sharonkhoo]

Estéema:

S'times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.


DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the \"nice to haves\" last priority. It's good they learn to prioritize their time & resources in their learning journey. This much we can highlight to them right? To me they'll still need some level of mentoring & direction - aka 指点指点

Agree with this. Although they are already pretty independent, they still lack experience in many areas and are still learning some higher-order skills like prioritising, adjusting expectations, managing group relationships etc. It's important that the parent-child relationship is strong and respectful (in both directions) - ideally, the child respects and seeks the views of parents, but the parent respects that the child should make the final decisions (sometimes even less wise ones, in the parents' view). Sometimes, a little pain teaches the best lessons. But the parents need to rein the child back if the situation seems to be getting too bad, or the decision has long-term repercussions. It needs quite a bit of wisdom how far to let go and when to step in!

[lego]

Estéema:

S'times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.


DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the \"nice to haves\" last priority.

Yup, time management and learning to prioritise are very important life skills, not just for students but for adults too.
You cannot have the cake and eat it,
有时候，放下也是一种选择
一个不懂得取舍的人， 很容易累垮的。

[genevaong]

Hello there, my daughter is currently a JC1 in another JC.

She took her ‘O’ Levels last year and got 14 points raw, nett is 10 points. Overall, she did well for her languages, but under-performed slightly for her mathematics and humanities. Her sciences were also under-performed as well.

She went to a JC nearby our house (one of the merging colleges), but she is not happy there as many of the students there are often very sarcastic towards her not taking H1 Chinese as she is one of the very few in her class that doesn’t take H1 Chinese and the school does not value Chinese at all. Not just so, her H2 Physics and GP tutors are really rude and biased towards students who fared well for their 'O’s and also mid years.

She is hoping to switch JCs in her JC2 year if she promotes, but she also doesn’t mind redoing JC1 at another college.

As a mother, I have seen how she is really sad with her current college, as she has been skipping school a lot this year to avoid classes with her physics tutor and even her fellow students in the college. She has been sleeping alot since the year started, and I can tell she isn’t happy where she is right now. I am actually worried for her psychological well-being as well as her secondary school valued Chinese as a subject a lot, and she did well, but now she is in a school that doesn’t value Chinese at all and she even gets mocked at for having taken Higher Chinese at ‘O’ Levels, with people saying things like "You don’t even take H1 Chinese", "Ya la ya la HCL zai la" etc etc. She often talks to me about how much she really wished she went to another college instead, or that she went to a polytechnic instead. She now stays at home a lot, and the only times she goes out of house is to go to school, tuition, or to meet her secondary school friends. She gets excited about meeting her secondary school friends, and she can even wake up a couple of hours earlier just to get ready to meet them. These days, she keeps telling me she wants to go back to Malaysia already and she doesn’t want to go to school anymore. What do you think I should do?

She aspires to become a doctor, and she already has her future planned out, which I am really proud of her for for knowing what she wants in life and knowing what her passions are. She speaks of her aspirations so proudly and happily, and every small improvement in her academics make her so happy as it is like a stepping stone to her dreams. She is happy studying for what she wants, but seeing her dread going to school is heartbreaking for me as a mother to see.

She is happy going to tuition learning her sciences, but dreads going to school.

Should I support her decision in changing schools and possibly redoing her JC1 studies even if it means one more year to her tertiary education? Or is it possible to change schools and do her JC2 studies at the new college instead?

Please do advise…