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slmkhoo:
:thankyou: slmkhoo
It really depends. My daughter managed to go to bed by 11pm most nights while in JC, waking up at 6am. She stayed up to midnight occasionally (maybe a few times a term), and very occasionally (probably less than 5 times in a year) later than that. Her friends realised that she was an early-to-bed person, so they would schedule their PW discussions to start at 9pm, and try to let her go to bed by 11pm! They were quite an efficient bunch. But I know other students who don't sleep till 1-2am on a regular basis, so probably only get 4-5 hrs a night.lego:
Sorry riding on this thread , may I ask - how many hours of sleep does yr child get on average?
Just want to have a feel what the norm is like for a JC student.
Dd's usual bedtime is also 11pm currently, averaging about 7.5hrs of sleep on a normal school day.
Got a bit worried after reading one of the posts.
Don't think she will be able to cope well with 4-5 hours of sleep daily but your daughter's schedule seems quite doable.
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S’times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.
DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the "nice to haves" last priority. It’s good they learn to prioritize their time & resources in their learning journey. This much we can highlight to them right? To me they’ll still need some level of mentoring & direction - aka 指点指点 -
Estéema:
Agree with this. Although they are already pretty independent, they still lack experience in many areas and are still learning some higher-order skills like prioritising, adjusting expectations, managing group relationships etc. It's important that the parent-child relationship is strong and respectful (in both directions) - ideally, the child respects and seeks the views of parents, but the parent respects that the child should make the final decisions (sometimes even less wise ones, in the parents' view). Sometimes, a little pain teaches the best lessons. But the parents need to rein the child back if the situation seems to be getting too bad, or the decision has long-term repercussions. It needs quite a bit of wisdom how far to let go and when to step in!S'times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.
DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the \"nice to haves\" last priority. It's good they learn to prioritize their time & resources in their learning journey. This much we can highlight to them right? To me they'll still need some level of mentoring & direction - aka 指点指点 -
Estéema:
Yup, time management and learning to prioritise are very important life skills, not just for students but for adults too.S'times they need to learn to manage their time, manage what needs to spend more time tackling & what can be simplified.
DC initially dive into tackling one area & spent majority of time till I got worried & steer him to relook at rqmts & re-calibrate time to tackle the impt things & leave the \"nice to haves\" last priority.
You cannot have the cake and eat it,
有时候，放下也是一种选择
一个不懂得取舍的人， 很容易累垮的。 -
Hello there, my daughter is currently a JC1 in another JC.
She took her ‘O’ Levels last year and got 14 points raw, nett is 10 points. Overall, she did well for her languages, but under-performed slightly for her mathematics and humanities. Her sciences were also under-performed as well.
She went to a JC nearby our house (one of the merging colleges), but she is not happy there as many of the students there are often very sarcastic towards her not taking H1 Chinese as she is one of the very few in her class that doesn’t take H1 Chinese and the school does not value Chinese at all. Not just so, her H2 Physics and GP tutors are really rude and biased towards students who fared well for their 'O’s and also mid years.
She is hoping to switch JCs in her JC2 year if she promotes, but she also doesn’t mind redoing JC1 at another college.
As a mother, I have seen how she is really sad with her current college, as she has been skipping school a lot this year to avoid classes with her physics tutor and even her fellow students in the college. She has been sleeping alot since the year started, and I can tell she isn’t happy where she is right now. I am actually worried for her psychological well-being as well as her secondary school valued Chinese as a subject a lot, and she did well, but now she is in a school that doesn’t value Chinese at all and she even gets mocked at for having taken Higher Chinese at ‘O’ Levels, with people saying things like "You don’t even take H1 Chinese", "Ya la ya la HCL zai la" etc etc. She often talks to me about how much she really wished she went to another college instead, or that she went to a polytechnic instead. She now stays at home a lot, and the only times she goes out of house is to go to school, tuition, or to meet her secondary school friends. She gets excited about meeting her secondary school friends, and she can even wake up a couple of hours earlier just to get ready to meet them. These days, she keeps telling me she wants to go back to Malaysia already and she doesn’t want to go to school anymore. What do you think I should do?
She aspires to become a doctor, and she already has her future planned out, which I am really proud of her for for knowing what she wants in life and knowing what her passions are. She speaks of her aspirations so proudly and happily, and every small improvement in her academics make her so happy as it is like a stepping stone to her dreams. She is happy studying for what she wants, but seeing her dread going to school is heartbreaking for me as a mother to see.
She is happy going to tuition learning her sciences, but dreads going to school.
Should I support her decision in changing schools and possibly redoing her JC1 studies even if it means one more year to her tertiary education? Or is it possible to change schools and do her JC2 studies at the new college instead?
Please do advise… -
genevaong:
Hello there, my daughter is currently a JC1 in another JC.
She took her 'O' Levels last year and got 14 points raw, nett is 10 points. Overall, she did well for her languages, but under-performed slightly for her mathematics and humanities. Her sciences were also under-performed as well.
She went to a JC nearby our house (one of the merging colleges), but she is not happy there as many of the students there are often very sarcastic towards her not taking H1 Chinese as she is one of the very few in her class that doesn't take H1 Chinese and the school does not value Chinese at all. Not just so, her H2 Physics and GP tutors are really rude and biased towards students who fared well for their 'O's and also mid years.
She is hoping to switch JCs in her JC2 year if she promotes, but she also doesn't mind redoing JC1 at another college.
As a mother, I have seen how she is really sad with her current college, as she has been skipping school a lot this year to avoid classes with her physics tutor and even her fellow students in the college. She has been sleeping alot since the year started, and I can tell she isn't happy where she is right now. I am actually worried for her psychological well-being as well as her secondary school valued Chinese as a subject a lot, and she did well, but now she is in a school that doesn't value Chinese at all and she even gets mocked at for having taken Higher Chinese at 'O' Levels, with people saying things like \"You don't even take H1 Chinese\", \"Ya la ya la HCL zai la\" etc etc. She often talks to me about how much she really wished she went to another college instead, or that she went to a polytechnic instead. She now stays at home a lot, and the only times she goes out of house is to go to school, tuition, or to meet her secondary school friends. She gets excited about meeting her secondary school friends, and she can even wake up a couple of hours earlier just to get ready to meet them. These days, she keeps telling me she wants to go back to Malaysia already and she doesn't want to go to school anymore. What do you think I should do?
She aspires to become a doctor, and she already has her future planned out, which I am really proud of her for for knowing what she wants in life and knowing what her passions are. She speaks of her aspirations so proudly and happily, and every small improvement in her academics make her so happy as it is like a stepping stone to her dreams. She is happy studying for what she wants, but seeing her dread going to school is heartbreaking for me as a mother to see.
She is happy going to tuition learning her sciences, but dreads going to school.
Should I support her decision in changing schools and possibly redoing her JC1 studies even if it means one more year to her tertiary education? Or is it possible to change schools and do her JC2 studies at the new college instead?
Please do advise..
I heard similar case many years back. The person went to NYJC and was happier there. Redid JC1 or not , I cannot recall. You call the school to ask. -
genevaong:
The hard truth: it's not impossible but very difficult for her to switch JCs.
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Should I support her decision in changing schools and possibly redoing her JC1 studies even if it means one more year to her tertiary education? Or is it possible to change schools and do her JC2 studies at the new college instead?
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Firstly, very few JCs accept a Year 2 transfer. Based on her O Level results, these are the list of JCs she's eligible for:
EJC, TJC, SAJC, AJC (SRJC), CJC, MJC (TPJC), PJC (JJC), YJC (IJC)
She would have qualified for those in red based on her COP.
Hence, if she is looking at a transfer, her best hope would be to those that are lower than her COP.
Even then, she would probably have to score and do reasonable well in her current JC - which is going to be challenge if she's not happy. If she don't score well enough for promotion, likelihood of transfer happening is even more unlikely. -
Not sure what to say, except that people do best in things that they liked doing.
Your daughter seems pretty unhappy with the JC she is in, or at least her friends in the JC. Are you sure she’ll be happy somewhere else?
If you think she is and you are open to her repeating her JC1, maybe talk to MOE or the JC she is interested in joining. See if they have any openings. But I think it is better for you to get to the root of the problem by asking why she needs to do Chinese at ‘A’-Levels, given that she has already gotten HCL at ‘O’-Levels. -
genevaong:
My opinion is don't change school. Maybe ask the school to change class. If she doesn't like to see her physics tutor, then don't attend the physics class. just attend outside tuition.Hello there, my daughter is currently a JC1 in another JC.
She took her 'O' Levels last year and got 14 points raw, nett is 10 points. Overall, she did well for her languages, but under-performed slightly for her mathematics and humanities. Her sciences were also under-performed as well.
She went to a JC nearby our house (one of the merging colleges), but she is not happy there as many of the students there are often very sarcastic towards her not taking H1 Chinese as she is one of the very few in her class that doesn't take H1 Chinese and the school does not value Chinese at all. Not just so, her H2 Physics and GP tutors are really rude and biased towards students who fared well for their 'O's and also mid years.
She is hoping to switch JCs in her JC2 year if she promotes, but she also doesn't mind redoing JC1 at another college.
As a mother, I have seen how she is really sad with her current college, as she has been skipping school a lot this year to avoid classes with her physics tutor and even her fellow students in the college. She has been sleeping alot since the year started, and I can tell she isn't happy where she is right now. I am actually worried for her psychological well-being as well as her secondary school valued Chinese as a subject a lot, and she did well, but now she is in a school that doesn't value Chinese at all and she even gets mocked at for having taken Higher Chinese at 'O' Levels, with people saying things like \"You don't even take H1 Chinese\", \"Ya la ya la HCL zai la\" etc etc. She often talks to me about how much she really wished she went to another college instead, or that she went to a polytechnic instead. She now stays at home a lot, and the only times she goes out of house is to go to school, tuition, or to meet her secondary school friends. She gets excited about meeting her secondary school friends, and she can even wake up a couple of hours earlier just to get ready to meet them. These days, she keeps telling me she wants to go back to Malaysia already and she doesn't want to go to school anymore. What do you think I should do?
She aspires to become a doctor, and she already has her future planned out, which I am really proud of her for for knowing what she wants in life and knowing what her passions are. She speaks of her aspirations so proudly and happily, and every small improvement in her academics make her so happy as it is like a stepping stone to her dreams. She is happy studying for what she wants, but seeing her dread going to school is heartbreaking for me as a mother to see.
She is happy going to tuition learning her sciences, but dreads going to school.
Should I support her decision in changing schools and possibly redoing her JC1 studies even if it means one more year to her tertiary education? Or is it possible to change schools and do her JC2 studies at the new college instead?
Please do advise..
Anyway, A level Chinese is only for JC1 students, right? Next year her classmates (if she can't change class) would have forgotten about she passing O level HCL because nobody is studying CL anymore in JC2.
Btw, JC life is different from Sec 1-4. My son is in IP JC and he told me that his most enjoyable years were when he was in Year 1 to 4. So, I think it will be just a waste of 1 year if your daughter change JC. It will never be the same as in secondary school. Just bear with it, It is only a few months more. -
am y4 this year in an ip secondary school and currently deciding on jc subj combi!
am debating between these
1. h1 math vs h2 math
2. pcme vs cmeg
my math is pretty weak and didn't do well in math throughout secondary school, math teacher told me to take h1. many of my friends are suggesting to me to try h2 for a year then drop if i really can't manage, but i myself am not even sure if i can do well in h2 math even if i work harder in the subject next year
i understand that h2 math is important but i feel taking h1 will guarantee me a better grade throughout jc and ultimately at As (i have no plans going for engineering)
basically physics vs geog, science stream vs hybrid. my geog has always been stronger than physics and i definitely prefer geog more, but would taking cmeg + h1 math narrow down my university choices by a lot? heard from seniors in jc that physics is really tough there and a number of them are going to drop physics from h2 to h1 the next year.
generally my ideal would be cmeg + h1 math but i am pretty worried where that subject combi would eventually lead me to! like university and career choices :(( any thoughts?
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