Networking Group - JCs General

[zac's mum]

May I suggest a combined strategy such as:

- wait for the first test/exam results to be out & print out the evidence of improvement
- let her gather any written testimonies from her teachers (and from yourself, essentially what you have told us above, except maybe rephrase the sleeping part)
- let her gather any support (written or otherwise) from inside the Council (this would lend the most weight - apart from the improved marks - if they are clamoring to welcome her back
- let her present her case to the P or VP or CCA head or whoever she thinks is most amenable

IMO a Council member should have all these people skills to handle this task. I understand as a parent u are anxious to help her. But at JC level, your attempting to appeal to higher authority on her behalf is not the best way. The school will likely prefer to see the JC student herself take responsibility & show her maturity by combining all the above avenues (rather than just one: rely on parent).

[sharonkhoo]

zac’s mum’s suggestions are good - if she really wants it, she will have to prove that she can handle the appeal for herself.


On the other hand, she should be prepared that the JC will not agree. They may feel that it sets a bad precedent, or they may fear that her diligence now may not last through the year.

Reading your post again, I’m not very clear whether she is asking to be a councillor for another year? Or just to continue another few months till her cohort steps down? Her cohort of the council will be stepping down very soon. If it’s the latter, the JC may be more amenable although she will have to rely on testimonials rather than test results as those will be too late. If it’s the former, is she planning to stand for election again? They may not allow her to continue without being elected as it won’t be fair to the juniors, and they may not allow her to stand for election again on policy. Just some thoughts.

[.010675zeit]

Agree with both zac’s mum and slmkhoo.


genevaong - was your daughter elected by her former jc mates before the merger?

I dunno, but if i were the Principal of this newly merged jc, I’d want to start everything on a clean slate. I’d prefer to be be fair and let the incoming batch of o level grads stand for a fresh round of election.

Since the JC1 tests (to prove she is more studious this year) aren’t happening before the election iirc, she can perhaps appeal to the Principal to be given a chance to stand for election again, alongside the 2019 JC1 candidates. Bear in mind it’s a totally fresh ‘electorate’ this year. The freshmen should be given the right to vote for whomever they deem capable of serving them in the upcoming 2 years.

Most student leaders, prefects and councillors can juggle both public service and their studies. They are role models to other students.

[Song22]

Hi, my girl is choosing her A level H2 subjects. She is going to take Chem, Maths, China Studies and is considering between Econs and Physics. She is rather strong in her secondary school physics but of course we cannot guage her standard of Econs as of now. Is it true than Physics is "easier" to score then Econs? If she is keen in doing International Relations or Accountancy / Business / Finance related course in the uni, would physics or Econs be a better choice to take? All thoughts are welcome

[doodbug]

Physics is important and relevant if she plans to do any form of Engineering, and to a lesser degree, Computing.

Economics is more relevant for Business/Finance, though these degrees do not specify or require Economics as a prerequisite.
If she is planning to apply for UK universities in future, do note that the Russell Group of Universities prefer facilitating subjects. You can google the list of facilitating A level subjects.
Cheers

[sharonkhoo]

Song22:

Hi, my girl is choosing her A level H2 subjects. She is going to take Chem, Maths, China Studies and is considering between Econs and Physics. She is rather strong in her secondary school physics but of course we cannot guage her standard of Econs as of now. Is it true than Physics is \"easier\" to score then Econs? If she is keen in doing International Relations or Accountancy / Business / Finance related course in the uni, would physics or Econs be a better choice to take? All thoughts are welcome

I would say Econs would be a more relevant choice given her aspirations. My daughter took both Econs and Physics at A level (her subject combination was PCME), so here's my 2 cents:

If the concern is simply getting a good grade, then Physics is \"surer\" as long as the student is strong in Maths and good at grasping physics concepts. Econs, by its very nature (social science, examined through essays) is more subjective. On the other hand, Econs allows the student to explore a broader range of real-world issues.

Is your daughter the kind who likes very clear-cut right/wrong answers? Then she would probably find physics more \"comfortable\". If she is happy to delve into areas which are \"messier\" and across topic areas, then Econs would be more interesting. My daughter was a dubious about taking Econs at A level, thinking that it was mostly about business and finance, but we were quite sure that she would find it interesting (as we see Econs as more about resource allocation and human behaviour). She took our advice and got interested enough to take H3 Econs and she's studying Econs in university now.

You could ask your daughter to dip into some layman's articles and books on simple applications of Econs (eg. Freakonomics etc). I'm sure you can find similar stuff online.

[Song22]

doodbug:

Physics is important and relevant if she plans to do any form of Engineering, and to a lesser degree, Computing.

Economics is more relevant for Business/Finance, though these degrees do not specify or require Economics as a prerequisite.
If she is planning to apply for UK universities in future, do note that the Russell Group of Universities prefer facilitating subjects. You can google the list of facilitating A level subjects.
Cheers

Thanks for this! Your information is really helpful! Agree that Computing rather relevant now and Physics will be useful if she is considering taking as a Minor.
:thankyou:

[sharonkhoo]

doodbug:

Economics is more relevant for Business/Finance, though these degrees do not specify or require Economics as a prerequisite.

True. My daughter's university required a good grade in H2 Maths, but didn't require Econs (to study Econs).

[doodbug]

For most UK universities, prerequisite for Econs is Maths A levels - in fact I believe some universities look on Further Math favourably for Econs.

[jtoh]

Song22:

Hi, my girl is choosing her A level H2 subjects. She is going to take Chem, Maths, China Studies and is considering between Econs and Physics. She is rather strong in her secondary school physics but of course we cannot guage her standard of Econs as of now. Is it true than Physics is \"easier\" to score then Econs? If she is keen in doing International Relations or Accountancy / Business / Finance related course in the uni, would physics or Econs be a better choice to take? All thoughts are welcome

If your daughter was strong in Physics in secondary school, she will likely find A level Physics easy and should be able to score well. As for Econs, some people take to it well while others just can't grasp it. Econs will definitely be more relevant than Physics if your daughter's area of interest are as highlighted in your question. However, it's not something she can't pick up in university. So between a high chance of doing extremely well in Physics vs a not-so-sure chance of doing well in Econs, I'd say go for Physics.