Networking Group - JCs General
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genevaong:
Econs is a tough subject, and if she was a weak student already, I think the JC is unlikely to allow the appeal. Personally, I think Econs is a lot tougher than Geog! Sorry to be a wet blanket, but the school's main purpose is to help students get grades good enough to move on to the next stage of life (generally to unversity for JC students). She has already had a year in Council, and whether or not that contributed to her poor grades, the school will probably want her to focus more on her academics for the next 2 years.
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.floppy:
I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her. -
phtthp:
Thank you for your advices. I called DHS , the teacher is very helpful and patience addressing my numerous questions. DHS gives me the feel they are putting effort on this JAE. i am more comfortable for my girl entering DHS as she has been exposing to similar environment for the last 4 yrs and hopefully higher chance but she still very much like to try RI. I dont want to deprive her thus placed RI as first choice.. :xedfingers:
Last year 2018 Admission entry into Raffles Institution JC1, Cut-off-point (COP) was 5 points (Nett), AFTER applying the bonus points. This year, 2019 : we do not know what is the COP, yet.mokcheng:
hi not sure i am in the right thread.
my girl score 8 raw after deducting is 4 pts in her o level. she is considering science stream RIJC or DHS and also NYJC but with her raw score 8 not sure will she be able to cope in RI/DHS anyone child has similar experience to share please?
for DHS since is their first yr opening to jae i am unable to get more insight and a feel of the school treating jae student vs IP student. thus i an worry of this too.
appreciate some guidance from you all. thank you!
2 possible scenario
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if this year (2019), COP also remain the same, at 5 points (nett) :
with your original Raw score of (8 - 4) equal to nett 4 points, means can still enter RI
b)
But if this year (2019) COP drop to 4 points (nett), because this year happen to produce a bumper crop of many O-level students with 10 points and below :
with your Original Raw score of (8 - 4) equal to nett 4 points, can be risky. May or may not enter RI
Whether your daughter eventually manged to enter RI (JC1) or enter Dunman High, she still have a lot to catch up.
It all depends on how fast she manage to catch up. All the best !
Good luck to all A LEVEL students getting their results this year and student like my girl on their selection! :rahrah: -
slmkhoo:
can share, in what way is H2 Econs a lot tougher than H2 Geography ? Thank you.
Econs is a tough subject, and if she was a weak student already, I think the JC is unlikely to allow the appeal. Personally, I think Econs is a lot tougher than Geog! . -
slmkhoo:
Econs is a tough subject, and if she was a weak student already, I think the JC is unlikely to allow the appeal. Personally, I think Econs is a lot tougher than Geog! Sorry to be a wet blanket, but the school's main purpose is to help students get grades good enough to move on to the next stage of life (generally to unversity for JC students). She has already had a year in Council, and whether or not that contributed to her poor grades, the school will probably want her to focus more on her academics for the next 2 years.[/quote]
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.genevaong:
[quote=\"floppy\"]I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her.
I agree with Slmkhoo.
Also a reminder, your DD will be kicked out (expelled) of the school if she fails again. She is wasting 2 years.
JC education is not easy n requires a lot of hard work. If she can not cope with both academics n CCA activities, it’s better to just concentrate on her subjects.
At the end of the day, passing all subjects is the criteria to go to Uni n not a Student Counsellor position. -
slmkhoo:
Econs is a tough subject, and if she was a weak student already, I think the JC is unlikely to allow the appeal. Personally, I think Econs is a lot tougher than Geog! Sorry to be a wet blanket, but the school's main purpose is to help students get grades good enough to move on to the next stage of life (generally to unversity for JC students). She has already had a year in Council, and whether or not that contributed to her poor grades, the school will probably want her to focus more on her academics for the next 2 years.[/quote]I share the same sentiment as slmkhoo. You daughter should focus on her academics, especially as she's repeating the year. She should be aiming to pass all her subjects and not have the mindset that she could possibly not pass Econs. Council is a v busy CCA and if she needs more time with Econs, then maybe she shouldn't be taking on Council.
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.genevaong:
[quote=\"floppy\"]I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her. -
phtthp:
In general, I think more people find Econs harder than Geog? Or maybe Geog is taken mainly be students who are genuinely interested, while more people take Econs because it's seen to be \"useful\"?slmkhoo:
Econs is a tough subject, and if she was a weak student already, I think the JC is unlikely to allow the appeal. Personally, I think Econs is a lot tougher than Geog!
can share, in what way is H2 Econs a lot tougher than H2 Geography ? Thank you.
Different people have different interests/skills. For me, I found Econs a bit harder to understand and express. It required more technical understanding (graphs, equations etc.) too, and the concepts were not so concrete - not my forte. I've always been interested in Geog, both human and physical, and it's more \"real\" in that you can actually see what the subject is about. (I took both Econs and Geog at A levels, and more recently, I coached 1 daughter in Geog A level, while the other daughter took Econs without any help from me!) -
genevaong:
Suggest you help her stay very focused. It was just last April when I read you were targeting at Medicine. Then in Oct, you were interested in transferring to Eunoia JC from this merged JC. Shortly, your dd was retained and lost her SC position. Now you want to switch to a new H2 subject Econs, which isn't a walk in the park.
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.floppy:
I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her.
Am I right to say that you're thinking this might boost her portfolio to get into Medicine? I hope you know you don't need to be from the SC to get into Medicine (check your posts in the NTU/NUS Medicine thread). Nor do you absolutely need to be a councillor to get a govt scholarship (other CCA leaderships also ok) or to get into OCS (for males). I've friends who successfully got into top universities in the UK and US without ever running for council.
I know it's very fun and novel to organise activities for peers in a merged JC that's just adopted a new identity, but ultimately, remember this is just a passing phase... Her priority now is to focus on her 3 best H2, PW and GP and earn that ticket / passport to at least one of our local AUs. Just because she's scored an A2 for O lvel HCL doesn't mean she should waste those extra free time on something that cannot earn her that uni ticket.
Remember she has a whole lifetime ahead of her to serve the community and the public. Why jeopardise these 2 crucial years of her life? Once in the local AUs, there are a myriad of faculty councils, orientation committees in various college halls, clubs and societies for her cherry-pick and serve to her heart's content. Same for overseas universities - plenty of student councils and committees to run for!
And if those are not enough to keep her occupied and socially gratified, she can always volunteer in grassroots organisations, charities, clans, religious groups, etc. during her undergrad and postgrad years. Btw, why don't you get her to spend her precious time to volunteer in some nursing homes/hospices instead, since you want her to get into NTU/NUS Medicine? Isn't that more practical and useful?
I feel that someone aiming for Medicine shouldn't be satisfied with just 4 out of 5 passes in JC1 on her 2nd attempt. She must vow to get at least 5 As & Bs in her repeat year, otherwise if she flunks again, she will have to join a poly to fulfil her Medicine dream. -
hi i saw in the JAE letter indicating that she is eligible for ESIS, anyone know if this referring to ESIS (pre-university)? thanks
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.zeit:
Suggest you help her stay very focused. It was just last April when I read you were targeting at Medicine. Then in Oct, you were interested in transferring to Eunoia JC from this merged JC. Shortly, your dd was retained and lost her SC position. Now you want to switch to a new H2 subject Econs, which isn't a walk in the park.
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.genevaong:
[quote=\"floppy\"]I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her.
Am I right to say that you're thinking this might boost her portfolio to get into Medicine? I hope you know you don't need to be from the SC to get into Medicine (check your posts in the NTU/NUS Medicine thread). Nor do you absolutely need to be a councillor to get a govt scholarship (other CCA leaderships also ok) or to get into OCS (for males). I've friends who successfully got into top universities in the UK and US without ever running for council.
I know it's very fun and novel to organise activities for peers in a merged JC that's just adopted a new identity, but ultimately, remember this is just a passing phase... Her priority now is to focus on her 3 best H2, PW and GP and earn that ticket / passport to at least one of our local AUs. Just because she's scored an A2 for O lvel HCL doesn't mean she should waste those extra free time on something that cannot earn her that uni ticket.
Remember she has a whole lifetime ahead of her to serve the community and the public. Why jeopardise these 2 crucial years of her life? Once in the local AUs, there are a myriad of faculty councils, orientation committees in various college halls, clubs and societies for her cherry-pick and serve to her heart's content. Same for overseas universities - plenty of student councils and committees to run for!
And if those are not enough to keep her occupied and socially gratified, she can always volunteer in grassroots organisations, charities, clans, religious groups, etc. during her undergrad and postgrad years. Btw, why don't you get her to spend her precious time to volunteer in some nursing homes/hospices instead, since you want her to get into NTU/NUS Medicine? Isn't that more practical and useful?
I feel that someone aiming for Medicine shouldn't be satisfied with just 4 out of 5 passes in JC1 on her 2nd attempt. She must vow to get at least 5 As & Bs in her repeat year, otherwise if she flunks again, she will have to join a poly to fulfil her Medicine dream.[/quote]Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible. -
genevaong:
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible.
You are being very supportive, and yes, I can understand how hard it is for her to let go. But as a parent, sometimes we have to help our kids face some hard truths and make some hard decisions. And be supportive in the hard times. This is probably one of the times for you and your daughter.
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