Networking Group - JCs General
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.zeit:
Suggest you help her stay very focused. It was just last April when I read you were targeting at Medicine. Then in Oct, you were interested in transferring to Eunoia JC from this merged JC. Shortly, your dd was retained and lost her SC position. Now you want to switch to a new H2 subject Econs, which isn't a walk in the park.
She is promising only 4 because she is intending to switch subject combinations from PCMG to PCME instead.genevaong:
[quote=\"floppy\"]I think she would have to stick her neck out and promises 5 passss out of 5 subjects.
She is not some freshies who’s sitting for a JC1 mid year exam facing some new topics / subjects for the first time. While 4 out of 5 is an improvement, it doesn’t sound like like a credible promise to change. If she can’t pass all the subjects on her second try with a year of knowledge under her belt, I honestly think council work is not for her.
Am I right to say that you're thinking this might boost her portfolio to get into Medicine? I hope you know you don't need to be from the SC to get into Medicine (check your posts in the NTU/NUS Medicine thread). Nor do you absolutely need to be a councillor to get a govt scholarship (other CCA leaderships also ok) or to get into OCS (for males). I've friends who successfully got into top universities in the UK and US without ever running for council.
I know it's very fun and novel to organise activities for peers in a merged JC that's just adopted a new identity, but ultimately, remember this is just a passing phase... Her priority now is to focus on her 3 best H2, PW and GP and earn that ticket / passport to at least one of our local AUs. Just because she's scored an A2 for O lvel HCL doesn't mean she should waste those extra free time on something that cannot earn her that uni ticket.
Remember she has a whole lifetime ahead of her to serve the community and the public. Why jeopardise these 2 crucial years of her life? Once in the local AUs, there are a myriad of faculty councils, orientation committees in various college halls, clubs and societies for her cherry-pick and serve to her heart's content. Same for overseas universities - plenty of student councils and committees to run for!
And if those are not enough to keep her occupied and socially gratified, she can always volunteer in grassroots organisations, charities, clans, religious groups, etc. during her undergrad and postgrad years. Btw, why don't you get her to spend her precious time to volunteer in some nursing homes/hospices instead, since you want her to get into NTU/NUS Medicine? Isn't that more practical and useful?
I feel that someone aiming for Medicine shouldn't be satisfied with just 4 out of 5 passes in JC1 on her 2nd attempt. She must vow to get at least 5 As & Bs in her repeat year, otherwise if she flunks again, she will have to join a poly to fulfil her Medicine dream.[/quote]Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible. -
genevaong:
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible.
You are being very supportive, and yes, I can understand how hard it is for her to let go. But as a parent, sometimes we have to help our kids face some hard truths and make some hard decisions. And be supportive in the hard times. This is probably one of the times for you and your daughter. -
I’m a little confused. Even if your DD wants to rejoin the council, doesn’t she has to be voted in? And wouldn’t she have to work with new people again? I don’t think the rest of the council would stay back just for her.
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mokcheng:
hi i saw in the JAE letter indicating that she is eligible for ESIS, anyone know if this referring to ESIS (pre-university)? thanks
https://www.moe.gov.sg/education/edusave/edusave-scholarships-for-independent-schools-%28esis%29
For students on the O-Level track
Within the top 5% of all students who sat for the GCE O-Level Examinations (Based on L1R5 scores before any bonus points) -
genevaong:
If your dd still intends to study medicine, her UAS is the most important entry point. Not her CCAs nor any other activities she has on her resume. Many of those applying for medicine have straight As (perfect UAS of 90) or possibly a B in one H1 subject. Cut-off points for Medicine FSA/SJT were 88.75 the last couple of years. So even if you volunteer at multiple healthcare organizations and are a councillor or in an exco, but you don't have a string of As, it's highly unlikely that you'll even score an interview. Priorities.
Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now..zeit:
Am I right to say that you're thinking this might boost her portfolio to get into Medicine? I hope you know you don't need to be from the SC to get into Medicine (check your posts in the NTU/NUS Medicine thread). Nor do you absolutely need to be a councillor to get a govt scholarship (other CCA leaderships also ok) or to get into OCS (for males). I've friends who successfully got into top universities in the UK and US without ever running for council.
I know it's very fun and novel to organise activities for peers in a merged JC that's just adopted a new identity, but ultimately, remember this is just a passing phase... Her priority now is to focus on her 3 best H2, PW and GP and earn that ticket / passport to at least one of our local AUs. Just because she's scored an A2 for O lvel HCL doesn't mean she should waste those extra free time on something that cannot earn her that uni ticket.
Remember she has a whole lifetime ahead of her to serve the community and the public. Why jeopardise these 2 crucial years of her life? Once in the local AUs, there are a myriad of faculty councils, orientation committees in various college halls, clubs and societies for her cherry-pick and serve to her heart's content. Same for overseas universities - plenty of student councils and committees to run for!
And if those are not enough to keep her occupied and socially gratified, she can always volunteer in grassroots organisations, charities, clans, religious groups, etc. during her undergrad and postgrad years. Btw, why don't you get her to spend her precious time to volunteer in some nursing homes/hospices instead, since you want her to get into NTU/NUS Medicine? Isn't that more practical and useful?
I feel that someone aiming for Medicine shouldn't be satisfied with just 4 out of 5 passes in JC1 on her 2nd attempt. She must vow to get at least 5 As & Bs in her repeat year, otherwise if she flunks again, she will have to join a poly to fulfil her Medicine dream.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible. -
genevaong:
Maybe you should support her on her original plan i.e. not to have CCA for the next 2 years. From being retained to getting straight As to qualify for medicine interview is NOT easy. Has she done with her PW? Even if she doesn’t have to do PW again, she should focus on her other subjects.
Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible. -
genevaong:
Actually how bad she failed her J1 huh? (mostly F9 or UG?) To make to be retained I guess would put her in the bottom 5 or 10% of her JC cohort?? I think the priority now should be to pass the J1 and promote to J2 and not anything else....council activities is a luxury...have you all analyse why she failed so badly?...no time to study bcos of council?...dont understand what the teacher is teaching?...does she needs tuition?...you retained and still thinking of changing subject combinations to study a new subject??...she not even thinking straight....if she is my DD, I will tell her straight to just concentrate on her study and forget about any cca....why still waste precious time appealing??...even she campaign...how is she going to ask for vote by telling people what she did last year in council and she back to serve again by retaining...has she thought about how people will see her? A retainee back to ask for vote again??....i am not mean but this how people will think and see her......Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible.
I think she is getting her priority messed up...what is the objective of going to JC...I think the one and only one is to get good A results so that she can get into the course of her choice in the Uni...what is the use of having outstanding cca record when your A level results is subpar that cant get you anywhere.....if she still want to get into medicine....she needs to work her butt off now!...ask yourself...what is the chances of her getting AAAA in less than 2 years time from her current situation....it needs a miracle!....God bless her! -
jtoh:
If your dd still intends to study medicine, her UAS is the most important entry point. Not her CCAs nor any other activities she has on her resume. Many of those applying for medicine have straight As (perfect UAS of 90) or possibly a B in one H1 subject. Cut-off points for Medicine FSA/SJT were 88.75 the last couple of years. So even if you volunteer at multiple healthcare organizations and are a councillor or in an exco, but you don't have a string of As, it's highly unlikely that you'll even score an interview. Priorities.[/quote]do local universites (NUS Yong Loo Lin, NTU Lee Kong Chian) even allow the taking in of Repeat (JC1 / JC2) students, for MBBS degree admission ?
Her previous plan was to not take on a CCA at all for the next 2 years as she is not interested in other CCAs, and she intends to build her portfolio for university entrance through volunteer work at Youth Corps during her holidays and then seek a job placement in the healthcare industry (e.g. polyclinic or GP clinics) during her post-A levels, as well as voluntary at other organisations. I agreed with her plan as it does seem feasible as she is keeping her school days free from any other external work, and I think with that, she can have a more balanced time of studying and relaxing now.genevaong:
[quote=\".zeit\"]
Am I right to say that you're thinking this might boost her portfolio to get into Medicine? I hope you know you don't need to be from the SC to get into Medicine (check your posts in the NTU/NUS Medicine thread). Nor do you absolutely need to be a councillor to get a govt scholarship (other CCA leaderships also ok) or to get into OCS (for males). I've friends who successfully got into top universities in the UK and US without ever running for council.
I know it's very fun and novel to organise activities for peers in a merged JC that's just adopted a new identity, but ultimately, remember this is just a passing phase... Her priority now is to focus on her 3 best H2, PW and GP and earn that ticket / passport to at least one of our local AUs. Just because she's scored an A2 for O lvel HCL doesn't mean she should waste those extra free time on something that cannot earn her that uni ticket.
Remember she has a whole lifetime ahead of her to serve the community and the public. Why jeopardise these 2 crucial years of her life? Once in the local AUs, there are a myriad of faculty councils, orientation committees in various college halls, clubs and societies for her cherry-pick and serve to her heart's content. Same for overseas universities - plenty of student councils and committees to run for!
And if those are not enough to keep her occupied and socially gratified, she can always volunteer in grassroots organisations, charities, clans, religious groups, etc. during her undergrad and postgrad years. Btw, why don't you get her to spend her precious time to volunteer in some nursing homes/hospices instead, since you want her to get into NTU/NUS Medicine? Isn't that more practical and useful?
I feel that someone aiming for Medicine shouldn't be satisfied with just 4 out of 5 passes in JC1 on her 2nd attempt. She must vow to get at least 5 As & Bs in her repeat year, otherwise if she flunks again, she will have to join a poly to fulfil her Medicine dream.
She recently had the thought of making an appeal to the principal regarding council as I believe it was because of her last session with the council and I think she misses them.
Her council teacher has also spoken to her regarding how she can build her portfolio without taking on a CCA, as her portfolio for 2018 is rather okay since she had council as a CCA. Her council teacher did advise her to take on volunteer work outside of school during holidays, and retainees are being given a internship opportunity during post-promos, which he recommended her to take on an internship at healthcare industry as she can include this into her portfolio too. In addition, he also mentioned that she can join Orientation 2020 as an OGL this year as long as she does well for promos, which will give her portfolio a boost as well.
I believe that she is having a hard time at the moment letting go of council as she has mentioned how council has been a big part of her jc journey so far and I just wanted to support her as much as possible.
Every year (batch), bear in mind that there are so many hundreds of applicants : hungrily, competitively applying for MMBS, for scarce, limited spaces in local (NUS, NTU). Besides RI and Hwa Chong that take in the bulk (majority) of applicants for medical admission, still got so many more other Junior colleges' candidates, also vying for scarce, limited spaces.
Interview medical panel only short-list candidates armed with straight-As (from A-level cert), plus those who displayed excellent Cca record, good leadership track record. I believe many of these short-listed candidates never failed nor repeat JC1 / JC2, before. Question is -
how can these repeating JC1 / JC2 students, ever compete with those \"clean\" candidates, who never have any blemish before, in their academic record ?
Once a student repeat, whether repeat in JC1 or JC2, already created a blemish (stain) in their academic record, particularly if applying for highly popular Medical / Law faculty. -
I do not have the statistic on hand to ascertain whether a retainee gaining admission into Medicine but I think there is a possibility depending how you spin the story. Gov/media nowsday like such comeback kids kind of story…a person overcoming great adversaries to achieve great results… to prove the flexibility of our system and upwards mobility is still alive and kicking. This also prove the strong character of the applicant and interviewer will likes such candidate. Personally, I do hope more such candidates are given more opportunity, its this kind of people who has the smart to survive in a crisis.
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UBKmom:
I do not have the statistic on hand to ascertain whether a retainee gaining admission into Medicine but I think there is a possibility depending how you spin the story. Gov/media nowsday like such comeback kids kind of story…a person overcoming great adversaries to achieve great results… to prove the flexibility of our system and upwards mobility is still alive and kicking. This also prove the strong character of the applicant and interviewer will likes such candidate. Personally, I do hope more such candidates are given more opportunity, its this kind of people who has the smart to survive in a crisis.
Yes, newspaper ever published article below, against adversity, against all odd, on some students able to enter Medicine
eg
This boy, scored PSLE T-score 181. Nobody expect someone with 181 T-score, to enter NUS Yong Loo Lin Medical school. Yet, against all odd, he proved it. With 181, he entered Secondary Normal Academic stream.
At Secondary 5, he did his O-level.
After that, he entered Singapore Polytechnic and did Biomedical Diploma, excelled in it and was admitted to NUS Medical school. But, was he ever a Repeat student, anywhere during his academic journey, inspite of scoring 181 (PSLE ) ? No, he wasn't
Did he ever repeat his Sec 5 O-level ? No, he did not
Did he ever repeat his final year, at Singapore Polytechnic ? No, he did not
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/from-a-psle-score-of-181-to-nus-medicine
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