Nanyang Girls' High School [*IP]
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Most people seem to be ok with the school rule of wearing only a certain colour of bra (including inspecting) and never questioned whether its relevant or appropriate at this age of time. I can accept and understand the requirement of uniformity for hair, skirt length even to the type of shoe or socks (colours included) because it affect the appearance of the student but undergarment? I found it dated and intrusive, I mean come on, unbuttoning and checking the bra inside, if this is not intrusive then I am not what is. I wonder which school in Singapore does that or has such rule. Undergarments are very personal items and its not the business of the school to interfere not even in a conservative Muslim society. To me, as long as the bra is totally covered by the blouse, its consider decent already. If the colour of the bra can be seen through the blouse then may be the problem is with the material of the blouse here. To that I also want to know, is there a requirement for certain colour of shorts/panties as the skirt have the same material as the blouse, I think its absurd. Strict rules is one thing and following the rules blindly is another.
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Just my little 2¢,
I don’t think one should immediately suspect another of being a non parent out to stir trouble just based on 1 post. Doesn’t matter if that person who posted 1 post is a newbie or whatsoever.
That’s where, in my opinion, started the heat.
This is a forum everyone can raise doubts, seek answers and have different opinions. One doenst have to be rude in reply. -
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12mum:
Just my little 2¢,
I don't think one should immediately suspect another of being a non parent out to stir trouble just based on 1 post. Doesn't matter if that person who posted 1 post is a newbie or whatsoever.
That's where, in my opinion, started the heat.
This is a forum everyone can raise doubts, seek answers and have different opinions. One doenst have to be rude in reply. -
Eerrh, don’t forget the indignation stems fr one parent with sec 1 gal claiming traumatized but in effect, the accounts & apologies by sch thereafter affects only a sec 4 girl. The parent with sec 1 gal was checked by sharp KSP parents here lah coz there was no Sec 1 incident of trauma as claimed. Most NY parents here trying to calm excitement down & the incident shld hv quietened down unless parents need engagement shld approach P & not stoke anymore as the sch had apologized & P handled with email.
It’s very obvious if u were to read deeply & connect that dots. Check the flurry of numerous responses fr new members lah. lee_yl did not bring up unsubstantiated issue. Fake news are easily done if ppl create multiple accounts to stoke the fire & hv fun at KSP mums’ expenses. For all u know, it cld be a male pretense.
Just wanna share an opinion wrt school girls’ following school rules.
In every organization there are rules, just as h’hold. If we wanna work in an orgn, hv to abide by the rules as day we sign empymt contract, all that company expect have to follow, except those inhumane or human harassment stuff. So, doesn’t it follow students who accept to get into the sch, irrespective top or neighbourhood sch, hv to follow sch rules?
My girl is expected to comply with sch rules. Not following sch rules shows defiance & as a parent, I wld be embarrass & need to counsel her.
More so, in the case of sch uniform designed white with red sch logo and there is more to just following sch rules - there’s a lot of culture, history and decorum the sch wants to teach & be recognized for. IMO, a child can experiment how inner garments wld look in sheer white or under opaque or whatever material at home or on non-school days/hours but once in sch, hv to toe the line despite disdain.
OT: I used to hv a secretary who wld wear short, short skirt, short blouse that shows belly-button, with differing colored bra (black under white blouse, red, green, orange & pink) with colored straps showing. I showed her company’s rules & regulations. She was defiant & continued. Maybe I’m not a good boss, but it’s a learning institution where we regularly hv professors fr all over the world visiting. After my 3rd written warning, I showed her the door with her last pay-check & a month’s notice compensation for her to do whatever she so pleases.
I think s’time back I was sharing in ano thread abt girls wearing short shorts that shows the cheek of their bums in public area & I noticed a grp of dark-skinned laborers staring thro’out. Eventually, I walked towards her & whispered she might need to cover her back with her sweater coz I don’t think that’s the kind of attention or audience she’s trying to reach out to. Seriously!
I’m not sure abt other mums & dads, but my girl will not defy sch, institutions or organizations unless she is her own boss & don’t take orders fr others. Don’t you think the issue wrt to sch meting out good discipline & checking for compliance is what we hope our kids will learn? Do we want our kids to show attitude to authorities w/o regard for respect? It’s deeper than just that colored undergarment that’s hiding an attitude. It shld be the sch’s bz to check.
Female sch authorities shld find a way to enforce sch rules & teach values & correct attitudes fr this learning point. Again, I might be an old foggey, but others don’t hv to agree with my sharing. -
Estéema:
This is a open forum - there is always 2 sides of the fence. You may choose to doubt one’s intention and I am free to share. I have a kid who is affected but you choose not to believe because most kids are not . But that is your freedom.Eerrh, don’t forget the indignation stems fr one parent with sec 1 gal claiming traumatized but in effect, the accounts & apologies by sch thereafter affects only a sec 4 girl. The parent with sec 1 gal was checked by sharp KSP parents here lah coz there was no Sec 1 incident of trauma as claimed. Most NY parents here trying to calm excitement down & the incident shld hv quietened down unless parents need engagement shld approach P & not stoke anymore as the sch had apologized & P handled with email.
It’s very obvious if u were to read deeply & connect that dots. Check the flurry of numerous responses fr new members lah. lee_yl did not bring up unsubstantiated issue. Fake news are easily done if ppl create multiple accounts to stoke the fire & hv fun at KSP mums’ expenses. For all u know, it cld be a male pretense.
Just wanna share an opinion wrt school girls’ following school rules.
In every organization there are rules, just as h’hold. If we wanna work in an orgn, hv to abide by the rules as day we sign empymt contract, all that company expect have to follow, except those inhumane or human harassment stuff. So, doesn’t it follow students who accept to get into the sch, irrespective top or neighbourhood sch, hv to follow sch rules?
My girl is expected to comply with sch rules. Not following sch rules shows defiance & as a parent, I wld be embarrass & need to counsel her.
More so, in the case of sch uniform designed white with red sch logo and there is more to just following sch rules - there’s a lot of culture, history and decorum the sch wants to teach & be recognized for. IMO, a child can experiment how inner garments wld look in sheer white or under opaque or whatever material at home or on non-school days/hours but once in sch, hv to toe the line despite disdain.
OT: I used to hv a secretary who wld wear short, short skirt, short blouse that shows belly-button, with differing colored bra (black under white blouse, red, green, orange & pink) with colored straps showing. I showed her company’s rules & regulations. She was defiant & continued. Maybe I’m not a good boss, but it’s a learning institution where we regularly hv professors fr all over the world visiting. After my 3rd written warning, I showed her the door with her last pay-check & a month’s notice compensation for her to do whatever she so pleases.
I think s’time back I was sharing in ano thread abt girls wearing short shorts that shows the cheek of their bums in public area & I noticed a grp of dark-skinned laborers staring thro’out. Eventually, I walked towards her & whispered she might need to cover her back with her sweater coz I don’t think that’s the kind of attention or audience she’s trying to reach out to. Seriously!
I’m not sure abt other mums & dads, but my girl will not defy sch, institutions or organizations unless she is her own boss & don’t take orders fr others. Don’t you think the issue wrt to sch meting out good discipline & checking for compliance is what we hope our kids will learn? Do we want our kids to show attitude to authorities w/o regard for respect? It’s deeper than just that colored undergarment that’s hiding an attitude. It shld be the sch’s bz to check.
Female sch authorities shld find a way to enforce sch rules & teach values & correct attitudes fr this learning point. Again, I might be an old foggey, but others don’t hv to agree with my sharing.
That Rule I understand. My older girl who has graduated has followed them , even though it is not stated in the handbook then. I am not contesting against that rule.
My main point is no physical contact should be allowed. That is all I want to highlight and hope the school could make one extra step to safe guard the girls.
Unfortunately this thread is not able to take feedback. You may like to consider closed door thread then. -
Can female teachers do so?
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looks like if you are not so eng to contribute thousands of posts in ksp, you are not real. but you will be accused of being a person who is too eng to create multiple fictitious accounts to stir things up. :rotflmao:
ksp is not the official media channel in sg and there are limited audiences. if one really wants to stir things up, there are many ways to do it. why so 无聊 create multiple accounts just to post on ksp nygh forum and get bombarded by the very few very eng but very narrow minded individuals who think they represent the nanyang community and are the only ones qualified to speak and have an opinion? -
lee_yl, gangjiong, might need to get moderators to check IP addresses. Some ppl really end to create multiple accounts. There hv been many far away users fr outside of Spore posting. Usually, janet & I hv highlighted. Guess some KSP forumers Not aware not familiar.
Post Note : I’m still curious incident happen to Sec 4 girl, but why Sec 1 mum still vehemently making “traumatised” claims. -
Estéema:
This is actually quite straightforward....
Post Note : I’m still curious incident happen to Sec 4 girl, but why Sec 1 mum still vehemently making “traumatised” claims.
There’s a game called Chinese Whispers that everyone may have played or played before. It is probably better known as the telephone game. As the message gets pass from one end to another, it gets distorted, exaggerated and muddled. In the end, when one end speaks of being traumatized by a flying cockroach she saw one day, the other end hears of a cockroach invasion from outer space, led by Edgar the Bug. -
Cbk:
looks like if you are not so eng to contribute thousands of posts in ksp, you are not real. but you will be accused of being a person who is too eng to create multiple fictitious accounts to stir things up. :rotflmao:
I've past the 1000 post mark but I still don't understand all the victim blaming going on around here. Neither do I understand why forummers are trying to hush the discussion!
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