* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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mindays\" post_id=\"1901550\" time=\"1551876125\" user_id=\"140018:
Are you threatening me? Derogatory attitude towards what? You?
You should watch your words, false accusations and assumptions just show your derogatory attitude -
floppy\" post_id=\"1901287\" time=\"1551771716\" user_id=\"97579:
How do you explain this comment from this website then? It is an upvoted comment by the way. https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/atjvxb/a_levels_average_rp_of_jcs_across_sg/
:?Grandyma\" post_id=\"1901272\" time=\"1551766969\" user_id=\"153793:
Your low 80s RP is at which range?
But I did prove that Mean can be higher or lower than Median which was initially believed by the rest that Mean is always < Median.
Nyjc More than 5 in 10 got More than 85 pts. So more top scorers saturated on the positive skewed. Yes, there will low 70s scorers but P has said more than 50% got 85 pts or more.
Median will be > 85.0.
Other JCs with RP 83.X or more will also have 70s or lower scorers in the cohort, right??
Whats yr take for NJC Mean with its Median at 84.4??
You didn't prove anything nor is there a need for you to.
There are only 3 possible outcome in statistics:
1. Mean = Median
2. Mean > Median
3. Mean < Median
I don't think there's anyone out there who believe in a fourth outcome. Given the way rank points are being distributed, what most people here are saying (and believing, correctly if I may add) is that schools with median > 8X is more likely to have a mean < 8X than a mean > or = 8X.
With that, welcome once again to Statistics 101.
I don't recall anyone here have disputed that it isn't possible for NYJC median to be > 85. Given that NYJC COP for 2017 is 7 / 6 for Arts / Science, why shouldn't more than 50% of the students do well? :scratchhead: What most people have an issue with, is comparing mean with median, and obfuscating the two. As you have said, there will be students in NYJC scoring in the low 70s. Therefore, I won't be surprised if NYJC mean is also in the low 80s. Same goes for NJC (with a median of 84.4). My range of low 80s? 80 to 82.5 i.e. same bracket as EJC, TJC. That said, it's fair to assume that NYJC (and NJC) should be closer to the higher end of that range. Apart from the two colleges named R and H, this is actually not a bad result at all (and why EJC is rightfully proud of the school's performance).
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stetan\" post_id=\"1901339\" time=\"1551789103\" user_id=\"3358:
Who are you to judge what top tier is? Who are you to say what a heartland JC is? And what is definite if you cant answer these 2 questions?
NYJC does not reveal many details about her performance. And many people often wonder why they are so secretive about it. It is definitely not top tier, just a good heartland JC.floppy\" post_id=\"1901329\" time=\"1551785450\" user_id=\"97579:
IMHO, 2018 didn't change much of NYJC narrative:
it a good JC? Yes.
Is it a top-top tier JC? Unfortunately, it has a long way to catch up with RJC, HCI, VJC and NJC. The cliche we often used is \"Form is temporary, class is permanent\". Until NYJC can sustain the results consistently, we won't know where it truly stands. Right now, it's simply the \"best of the rest\".
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"1901555\" time=\"1551876561\" user_id=\"17023:
What is your intention when you said \"just use Grandyma all the way lah\"? Obviously kicking a bucket of water and saying why is the water spilled :evil:
Are you threatening me? Derogatory attitude towards what? You?mindays\" post_id=\"1901550\" time=\"1551876125\" user_id=\"140018:
You should watch your words, false accusations and assumptions just show your derogatory attitude
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mindays\" post_id=\"1901559\" time=\"1551877210\" user_id=\"140018:
Dear Grandyma, oops, I mean Mindays
Who are you to judge what top tier is? Who are you to say what a heartland JC is? And what is definite if you cant answer these 2 questions?
I believe that we have debated that extensively in the NYJC thread and you have convincingly lost. If your amnesia have recurred, suggest to back and read the NYJC thread. -
mindays\" post_id=\"1901562\" time=\"1551877516\" user_id=\"140018:
What is your intention when you said \"just use Grandyma all the way lah\"? Obviously kicking a bucket of water and saying why is the water spilled :evil:[/quote]If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it can go by any other name but it is still a duck.
Are you threatening me? Derogatory attitude towards what? You?lee_yl\" post_id=\"1901555\" time=\"1551876561\" user_id=\"17023:
[quote=mindays post_id=1901550 time=1551876125 user_id=140018]You should watch your words, false accusations and assumptions just show your derogatory attitude
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mindays\" post_id=\"1901557\" time=\"1551877010\" user_id=\"140018:
Explain?
How do you explain this comment from this website then? It is an upvoted comment by the way. https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/atjvxb/a_levels_average_rp_of_jcs_across_sg/
https://postimg.cc/xXhVJ1Jv
How a teacher can be so wrong? Sure. Cos the teacher is actually a Chinese language teacher who last contact with statistics was over 30 years ago. -
mindays\" post_id=\"1901557\" time=\"1551877010\" user_id=\"140018:
The teacher was Grandyma/Mindays ? If not, must be fake news
How do you explain this comment from this website then? It is an upvoted comment by the way. https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/atjvxb/a_levels_average_rp_of_jcs_across_sg/
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stetan\" post_id=\"1901518\" time=\"1551865553\" user_id=\"3358:
You are beginning to get it.
Whats your defination of top tier JC?Grandyma\" post_id=\"1901506\" time=\"1551861766\" user_id=\"153793:
[quote=stetan post_id=1901404 time=1551839656 user_id=3358]
What words spread around? That NYJC is a top tier JC? Nah. Maybe spreading in your head, definitely not around the public
Top Tier as its an IPJC with various Programmes like Humanities Prog etc then Nyjc is not. Njc is then.
To help you further...think about this - what make a top tier actress ? Is it solely her acting ability ?
There are thosands of actresses that can act well. Why are they not considered top-tier ?[/quote]To be top tier actress, of course you need to act well FIRST. Then come others.
You do understand that
There are actresses who act well, persevere and eventually get recognise. They dont need to be top tier but are A List actresses.
So dont think non IPJC cannot be same tier group as IPJC though dont have special programmes.
You havent answered whats top tier JC yet? -
stetan\" post_id=\"1901520\" time=\"1551865980\" user_id=\"3358:
Im glad you understandGrandyma\" post_id=\"1901512\" time=\"1551863911\" user_id=\"153793:
Yes, COP indicates popularity. Why popular? Can be many reasons but students' confidence, good review of that JC.
Nyjc doesnt need to be that league like Lexus.
You sound elitist just like Floppy who said Combined Sci students will be on lower end of graph n IPJC hv fewer 70s scorers.
Why is Kia car popular ? It is value for money, it delivers reasonable performance, it does not incur high servicing fees.
A JC can be popular for many reasons too.
If you are implying that COP determines whether a JC is top tier, then you are sorely wrong.
a JC can be popular for many reasons. Thats what I Said.
But students wont just choose a JC for 1 reason. Academics and culture are impt to them.
If its just pure proximity, if JC is not worth going, words spread and slowly that JC will not be chosen by students.
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