2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[peasants]

Gep, use 0.75 cos their paper is harder?

[floppy]

Ran1977\" post_id=\"1912102\" time=\"1558831525\" user_id=\"44364:

sweetbaby\" post_id=\"1910397\" time=\"1557898178\" user_id=\"16633:

Hi

Some questions from my discussion with friends :

To calculate estimated Tscore from SA1 results (for DSA school selection)
How do we know if school standards are higher or lower than PSLE? Any rough estimations?

School like Temasek pri, would you use 0.73?
How about Tanjong katong ? F For GEP kid use x 0.75?

Thank you.

I was adviced to take 0.71.
But which is accurate (as close to PSLE scores) - 0.71 or 0.72 or 0.73 or 0.74 or 0.75?

In the above example - why do you use 0.73? :?

Each school is different, each child is different and how each child prepares / reacts / understands the PSLE exams is different.

There is no 'right' number. No point getting fixated with a number. It's better to understand that the result is only suggesting the range of possibilities. In that respect, you can consider 0.7 to 0.75 (or even a wider range such as 0.7 to 0.8) as the range of possible scores that the child may achieve (therefore, a child scoring 320 is likely to achieve a t-score of 220 to 240, but there is also the odd chance that he scores more or less than that range).

Also, worth noting that t-score is compute based on each subject and not the combined total. Each subject has its own mean and SD to consider. Therefore, scoring high in Math and Science may not net you a high t-score (as Singapore students tend to be strong in these subjects) compare to students who can score high in EL and CL (where they tend to be weaker, esp. CL).

[phtthp]

tomorrow is last week of P6 Term 2

[Imp75]

floppy\" post_id=\"1912124\" time=\"1558838287\" user_id=\"97579:

Also, worth noting that t-score is compute based on each subject and not the combined total. Each subject has its own mean and SD to consider. Therefore, scoring high in Math and Science may not net you a high t-score (as Singapore students tend to be strong in these subjects) compare to students who can score high in EL and CL (where they tend to be weaker, esp. CL).

Agreed. Based on my own analysis of last year PSLE results, Sci was visibly the most challenging paper and those who scored A* in Sci seemed to have their T-score stretched up.

[floppy]

Imp75\" post_id=\"1912150\" time=\"1558852172\" user_id=\"2358:

floppy\" post_id=\"1912124\" time=\"1558838287\" user_id=\"97579:

Also, worth noting that t-score is compute based on each subject and not the combined total. Each subject has its own mean and SD to consider. Therefore, scoring high in Math and Science may not net you a high t-score (as Singapore students tend to be strong in these subjects) compare to students who can score high in EL and CL (where they tend to be weaker, esp. CL).

Agreed. Based on my own analysis of last year PSLE results, Sci was visibly the most challenging paper and those who scored A* in Sci seemed to have their T-score stretched up.

If you are a reasonably good student, you always hope for a challenging paper. That would put the daylights between you and the weaker ones :evil:

[Imp75]

floppy\" post_id=\"1912152\" time=\"1558853938\" user_id=\"97579:

Imp75\" post_id=\"1912150\" time=\"1558852172\" user_id=\"2358:

[quote=floppy post_id=1912124 time=1558838287 user_id=97579]
Also, worth noting that t-score is compute based on each subject and not the combined total. Each subject has its own mean and SD to consider. Therefore, scoring high in Math and Science may not net you a high t-score (as Singapore students tend to be strong in these subjects) compare to students who can score high in EL and CL (where they tend to be weaker, esp. CL).

Agreed. Based on my own analysis of last year PSLE results, Sci was visibly the most challenging paper and those who scored A* in Sci seemed to have their T-score stretched up.

If you are a reasonably good student, you always hope for a challenging paper. That would put the daylights between you and the weaker ones :evil:[/quote]Well kind of. Was quite worried when last year Maths papers was not challenging that means the mean rather high and SD would be rather narrow.

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[bluepencil]

floppy\" post_id=\"1912124\" time=\"1558838287\" user_id=\"97579:

Ran1977\" post_id=\"1912102\" time=\"1558831525\" user_id=\"44364:

[quote=sweetbaby post_id=1910397 time=1557898178 user_id=16633]Hi

Some questions from my discussion with friends :

To calculate estimated Tscore from SA1 results (for DSA school selection)
How do we know if school standards are higher or lower than PSLE? Any rough estimations?

School like Temasek pri, would you use 0.73?
How about Tanjong katong ? F For GEP kid use x 0.75?

Thank you.

I was adviced to take 0.71.
But which is accurate (as close to PSLE scores) - 0.71 or 0.72 or 0.73 or 0.74 or 0.75?

In the above example - why do you use 0.73? :?

Each school is different, each child is different and how each child prepares / reacts / understands the PSLE exams is different.

There is no 'right' number. No point getting fixated with a number. It's better to understand that the result is only suggesting the range of possibilities. In that respect, you can consider 0.7 to 0.75 (or even a wider range such as 0.7 to 0.8) as the range of possible scores that the child may achieve (therefore, a child scoring 320 is likely to achieve a t-score of 220 to 240, but there is also the odd chance that he scores more or less than that range).

Also, worth noting that t-score is compute based on each subject and not the combined total. Each subject has its own mean and SD to consider. Therefore, scoring high in Math and Science may not net you a high t-score (as Singapore students tend to be strong in these subjects) compare to students who can score high in EL and CL (where they tend to be weaker, esp. CL).[/quote]Hi, indeed, I actually heard before from some educators that higher marks in EL and CL are very worth it. something like for every mark earned for languages, it improves the psle score greater than for math and science. i can't work out the math behind it, cos i poor in math. but the advice is language marks are very worth it.

But goodness, languages can be a long drawn mt everest effort... at least for us...

[Zappy]

bluepencil\" post_id=\"1912195\" time=\"1558879911\" user_id=\"165241:

Hi, indeed, I actually heard before from some educators that higher marks in EL and CL are very worth it. something like for every mark earned for languages, it improves the psle score greater than for math and science. i can't work out the math behind it, cos i poor in math. but the advice is language marks are very worth it.

But goodness, languages can be a long drawn mt everest effort... at least for us...

It's not about whether it is \"worth it\" or not, right? More about whether it is feasible to achieve the high marks. Not sure what the advice regarding language marks is about but the kid should basically just try to score the highest he or she can score in all the 4 subjects.

And yes, 1 mark increase in the languages can translate to more T-score points than a 1 mark increase in Maths. That's just based on the average and standard deviation among the Singapore students as a whole. The average score in Singapore for CL for example is lower than the average score in Maths among all the students taking the PSLE exam. The standard deviation is also usually lower.

In layman terms, if a kid scores 90 in CL, that's a very good effort because most of Singapore would score much lower. Whereas a 90 in Maths would not be as outstanding because the average for Maths is higher than that for CL. Therefore that CL 90 would be rewarded by a better T-score.

[dylanmummy2003]

chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1911683\" time=\"1558619250\" user_id=\"162894:

dylanmummy2003\" post_id=\"1911597\" time=\"1558588165\" user_id=\"116705:[quote=dylanmummy2003 post_id=1911597 time=1558588165 user_id=116705]chenlaoshi,
is it common for school to let the kids practice more with 情境作文 instead of 完成文章?
my gal told me, her school teacher, since P4, usually let them do 情境作文, and they have been encourage to do this for PSLE as well. so she is not really familiar with doing 完成文章

Hi dylanmummy2003,

Yes, it is possible that schools/teacher prefer focus more on a particular type of compo if that's the general directive the CL department is taking. It's similar to CL, where you will notice majority of the practices are on 看图作文 (still have to do a couple of 命题作文 for the sake of showing all exam-able components/questions are covered )

As mentioned earlier, the tendency of going out of point in 完成文章 is generally higher (when pit against 情境作文). I got asked the question about which type of questions to choose many times and my answer is 'need to 审题 and decide based on your level of understanding of the requirement and confidence of writing'.

For e.g. sometimes, the student might have read a model compo or came across compre passage that has similar setting to the 完成文章 question. In such cases, can't possibly ask him/her to 'die-die' choose 命题作文 over a question he/she has more confidence in.

Thus, if there's not enough time to practice writing full compo for HCL, then it is advisable to look through as many topics for both types of questions as possible and plot out the general story flow or brain storm on possible ideas.

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1911632\" time=\"1558596733\" user_id=\"43981:

My pleasure, MrsKiasu.

Thank you Chenlaoshi for the reply!