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    • C Offline
      CS Yap
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      Hi parents,


      I would like to rent out 2 of my bedrooms (2 people per room) and noticed that hdb only allow 6 occupiers including owners for a flat. My Daughter is an authorised occupier but she is currently not staying in Singapore. I was thinking to remove her from the list in order to register 4 of my tenants. Will it have any implications when register for P1. The school near my house is a popular school in my estate. I will be doing PV but no guarantee will get a place. If can’t get for Phase 2B, then might need to ballot for phase 2C based on distance which is less than 1KM. May I know the address is based on parent’s IC address or based on registered address in HDB occupiers list? Thank you.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        CS Yap\" post_id=\"1916494\" time=\"1561849374\" user_id=\"178864:[quote=\"CS Yap\" post_id=1916494 time=1561849374 user_id=178864]
        Hi parents,

        I would like to rent out 2 of my bedrooms (2 people per room) and noticed that hdb only allow 6 occupiers including owners for a flat. My Daughter is an authorised occupier but she is currently not staying in Singapore. I was thinking to remove her from the list in order to register 4 of my tenants. Will it have any implications when register for P1. The school near my house is a popular school in my estate. I will be doing PV but no guarantee will get a place. If can’t get for Phase 2B, then might need to ballot for phase 2C based on distance which is less than 1KM. May I know the address is based on parent’s IC address or based on registered address in HDB occupiers list? Thank you.[/quote]
        It is based on parents’ IC address. But there are also penalties for making false declaration to the school when you register. Isn’t your daughter going to be moving back to SG by P1 registration period? You will eventually have to put her back in as occupier and kick out at least 1 tenant.

        I suggest you do a tenancy agreement for 1 year only. Then you can kick them out & add your daughter back in as occupier, in time for 2020 P1 registration.

        If you don’t, the risk is your tenants will use the same address for P1 registration. Then police may come and check why got unrelated children living with you.

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          CS Yap
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"1916495\" time=\"1561850487\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1916495 time=1561850487 user_id=53606]
          CS Yap\" post_id=\"1916494\" time=\"1561849374\" user_id=\"178864:[quote=\"CS Yap\" post_id=1916494 time=1561849374 user_id=178864]Hi parents,

          I would like to rent out 2 of my bedrooms (2 people per room) and noticed that hdb only allow 6 occupiers including owners for a flat. My Daughter is an authorised occupier but she is currently not staying in Singapore. I was thinking to remove her from the list in order to register 4 of my tenants. Will it have any implications when register for P1. The school near my house is a popular school in my estate. I will be doing PV but no guarantee will get a place. If can’t get for Phase 2B, then might need to ballot for phase 2C based on distance which is less than 1KM. May I know the address is based on parent’s IC address or based on registered address in HDB occupiers list? Thank you.[/quote]
          It is based on parents’ IC address. But there are also penalties for making false declaration to the school when you register. Isn’t your daughter going to be moving back to SG by P1 registration period? You will eventually have to put her back in as occupier and kick out at least 1 tenant.

          I suggest you do a tenancy agreement for 1 year only. Then you can kick them out & add your daughter back in as occupier, in time for 2020 P1 registration.

          If you don’t, the risk is your tenants will use the same address for P1 registration. Then police may come and check why got unrelated children living with you.[/quote]
          Hi zac’s mum
          Thanks for your prompt reply and advice.
          Thank you.

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            tammyyhc
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            Hi, need some advise here. Currently the address on my IC is not my residential address, it’s the address of my in-law, I’m not intended to change it because I will use this same address to register the primary school of my daughter next year. However, recently I’m planning to hire a domestic helper and it require me to change the address on my IC to my residential address. So my question here, can I change my IC address to my current residential address and change it back to my in-law’s address later and use it to register the primary school for my daughter? Does it require that I must reside in that address for certain timeframe BEFORE i can register the school nearby that address? Thank you

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            • floppyF Offline
              floppy
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              tammyyhc\" post_id=\"1917558\" time=\"1562231165\" user_id=\"173576:

              Hi, need some advise here. Currently the address on my IC is not my residential address, it's the address of my in-law, I'm not intended to change it because I will use this same address to register the primary school of my daughter next year. However, recently I'm planning to hire a domestic helper and it require me to change the address on my IC to my residential address. So my question here, can I change my IC address to my current residential address and change it back to my in-law's address later and use it to register the primary school for my daughter? Does it require that I must reside in that address for certain timeframe BEFORE i can register the school nearby that address? Thank you
              Unfortunately, a couple of issues here.

              Firstly, you are running / have run foul of the National Registration Act as you must report a change of address within 28 days of moving.

              Secondly, if you changed your address to your current residential address now, and you switch back to your in-law's address, you will need to update MOM as your FDW have to follow the employer's address. Otherwise, you run foul of MOM law as your FDW cannot work in another address, i.e. she cannot work in your residential address once you make the switch back to your in-law's address.

              Thirdly, say you register using your in-law's address. While you do not have to reside in that address for certain time frame, you will have to stay for at least 30 months in that address. Any issues raised or investigation found that you are not residing in that address (which, err... you obviously aren't), may lead to fine / jail and transfer of school for your child. Also means, in that 30 months, you can't change address to reflect your real residential address.

              By the way, MOM and MOE are very on the ball over addresses these days (more so MOM). I would advise that you think twice / thrice / four times about using a false address. Best solution would be:
              1. Sell / rent out your place - shift in with in-laws or rent a place nearby
              2. Do a stat declaration which puts your in-law's address in the 1-2km category
              3. Find another school

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                tammyyhc
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                floppy\" post_id=\"1917580\" time=\"1562234693\" user_id=\"97579:

                tammyyhc\" post_id=\"1917558\" time=\"1562231165\" user_id=\"173576:

                Hi, need some advise here. Currently the address on my IC is not my residential address, it's the address of my in-law, I'm not intended to change it because I will use this same address to register the primary school of my daughter next year. However, recently I'm planning to hire a domestic helper and it require me to change the address on my IC to my residential address. So my question here, can I change my IC address to my current residential address and change it back to my in-law's address later and use it to register the primary school for my daughter? Does it require that I must reside in that address for certain timeframe BEFORE i can register the school nearby that address? Thank you

                Unfortunately, a couple of issues here.

                Firstly, you are running / have run foul of the National Registration Act as you must report a change of address within 28 days of moving.

                Secondly, if you changed your address to your current residential address now, and you switch back to your in-law's address, you will need to update MOM as your FDW have to follow the employer's address. Otherwise, you run foul of MOM law as your FDW cannot work in another address, i.e. she cannot work in your residential address once you make the switch back to your in-law's address.

                Thirdly, say you register using your in-law's address. While you do not have to reside in that address for certain time frame, you will have to stay for at least 30 months in that address. Any issues raised or investigation found that you are not residing in that address (which, err... you obviously aren't), may lead to fine / jail and transfer of school for your child. Also means, in that 30 months, you can't change address to reflect your real residential address.

                By the way, MOM and MOE are very on the ball over addresses these days (more so MOM). I would advise that you think twice / thrice / four times about using a false address. Best solution would be:
                1. Sell / rent out your place - shift in with in-laws or rent a place nearby
                2. Do a stat declaration which puts your in-law's address in the 1-2km category
                3. Find another school

                Thank you for your response. Actually why I want to use my sis in law address to register the school is due to they will help me to fetch the kids or take care the kids after school until I finish work. But I can’t do the stat declaration because my sis in law isn’t entirely not working but just having flexi time and can work from home. Moreover, my kids do occasionally stay there when I need to travel for business. Now I dunno whether I should give up hiring a FDW due to this address issue.

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                • S Offline
                  SD0108
                  last edited by

                  Hello Everyone

                  I’m a new member and this is my first post.
                  Could anyone please advise me as to what the best schools in the Orchard - River Valley area are and how these schools compare with other sought after schools in Singapore? My son will be in Primary 1.
                  Many thanks

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                  • jedamumJ Offline
                    jedamum
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                    tammyyhc\" post_id=\"1917666\" time=\"1562252564\" user_id=\"173576:

                    floppy\" post_id=\"1917580\" time=\"1562234693\" user_id=\"97579:

                    [quote=tammyyhc post_id=1917558 time=1562231165 user_id=173576]Hi, need some advise here. Currently the address on my IC is not my residential address, it's the address of my in-law, I'm not intended to change it because I will use this same address to register the primary school of my daughter next year. However, recently I'm planning to hire a domestic helper and it require me to change the address on my IC to my residential address. So my question here, can I change my IC address to my current residential address and change it back to my in-law's address later and use it to register the primary school for my daughter? Does it require that I must reside in that address for certain timeframe BEFORE i can register the school nearby that address? Thank you

                    Unfortunately, a couple of issues here.

                    Firstly, you are running / have run foul of the National Registration Act as you must report a change of address within 28 days of moving.

                    Secondly, if you changed your address to your current residential address now, and you switch back to your in-law's address, you will need to update MOM as your FDW have to follow the employer's address. Otherwise, you run foul of MOM law as your FDW cannot work in another address, i.e. she cannot work in your residential address once you make the switch back to your in-law's address.

                    Thirdly, say you register using your in-law's address. While you do not have to reside in that address for certain time frame, you will have to stay for at least 30 months in that address. Any issues raised or investigation found that you are not residing in that address (which, err... you obviously aren't), may lead to fine / jail and transfer of school for your child. Also means, in that 30 months, you can't change address to reflect your real residential address.

                    By the way, MOM and MOE are very on the ball over addresses these days (more so MOM). I would advise that you think twice / thrice / four times about using a false address. Best solution would be:
                    1. Sell / rent out your place - shift in with in-laws or rent a place nearby
                    2. Do a stat declaration which puts your in-law's address in the 1-2km category
                    3. Find another school

                    Thank you for your response. Actually why I want to use my sis in law address to register the school is due to they will help me to fetch the kids or take care the kids after school until I finish work. But I can’t do the stat declaration because my sis in law isn’t entirely not working but just having flexi time and can work from home. Moreover, my kids do occasionally stay there when I need to travel for business. Now I dunno whether I should give up hiring a FDW due to this address issue.[/quote]Tammyyhc,
                    Is it a requirement for care giver to be not working?
                    I didn't read the details, but what stands out from my browsing is
                    . If the caregiver’s address is successfully used for priority admission, you will have to continue with the same childcare arrangement at the same address for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019.

                    If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                    . Your sch distance using caregiver address for cases involving balloting will be under 1-2 km even if that addresses is 500m from the school.

                    . The address used for P1 registration must be on the parents’ Nric unless u register under the caregiver clause.

                    If your address (assuming you not hiring maid and chooses to use the Nric address which is your in law place n not going for caregiver registration route) is successfully used for priority admission, your family must live there for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019. If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                    In short, if you are not staying in that address you should not be using it as your address for registration.

                    https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/home-address/

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                    • floppyF Offline
                      floppy
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                      jedamum\" post_id=\"1917681\" time=\"1562256401\" user_id=\"159:

                      Tammyyhc,
                      Is it a requirement for care giver to be not working?
                      I didn't read the details, but what stands out from my browsing is
                      . If the caregiver’s address is successfully used for priority admission, you will have to continue with the same childcare arrangement at the same address for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019.

                      If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                      . Your sch distance using caregiver address for cases involving balloting will be under 1-2 km even if that addresses is 500m from the school.

                      . The address used for P1 registration must be on the parents’ Nric unless u register under the caregiver clause.

                      If your address (assuming you not hiring maid and chooses to use the Nric address which is your in law place n not going for caregiver registration route) is successfully used for priority admission, your family must live there for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019. If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                      In short, if you are not staying in that address you should not be using it as your address for registration.

                      https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/home-address/
                      Interest. Apparently, MOE did some tweaking to the statutory declaration. Gone are the explicit requirement of the caregiver not working (was previously stated as such): https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/home-address/

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                        tammyyhc
                        last edited by

                        jedamum\" post_id=\"1917681\" time=\"1562256401\" user_id=\"159:

                        tammyyhc\" post_id=\"1917666\" time=\"1562252564\" user_id=\"173576:

                        [quote=floppy post_id=1917580 time=1562234693 user_id=97579]

                        Unfortunately, a couple of issues here.

                        Firstly, you are running / have run foul of the National Registration Act as you must report a change of address within 28 days of moving.

                        Secondly, if you changed your address to your current residential address now, and you switch back to your in-law's address, you will need to update MOM as your FDW have to follow the employer's address. Otherwise, you run foul of MOM law as your FDW cannot work in another address, i.e. she cannot work in your residential address once you make the switch back to your in-law's address.

                        Thirdly, say you register using your in-law's address. While you do not have to reside in that address for certain time frame, you will have to stay for at least 30 months in that address. Any issues raised or investigation found that you are not residing in that address (which, err... you obviously aren't), may lead to fine / jail and transfer of school for your child. Also means, in that 30 months, you can't change address to reflect your real residential address.

                        By the way, MOM and MOE are very on the ball over addresses these days (more so MOM). I would advise that you think twice / thrice / four times about using a false address. Best solution would be:
                        1. Sell / rent out your place - shift in with in-laws or rent a place nearby
                        2. Do a stat declaration which puts your in-law's address in the 1-2km category
                        3. Find another school

                        Thank you for your response. Actually why I want to use my sis in law address to register the school is due to they will help me to fetch the kids or take care the kids after school until I finish work. But I can’t do the stat declaration because my sis in law isn’t entirely not working but just having flexi time and can work from home. Moreover, my kids do occasionally stay there when I need to travel for business. Now I dunno whether I should give up hiring a FDW due to this address issue.

                        Tammyyhc,
                        Is it a requirement for care giver to be not working?
                        I didn't read the details, but what stands out from my browsing is
                        . If the caregiver’s address is successfully used for priority admission, you will have to continue with the same childcare arrangement at the same address for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019.

                        If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                        . Your sch distance using caregiver address for cases involving balloting will be under 1-2 km even if that addresses is 500m from the school.

                        . The address used for P1 registration must be on the parents’ Nric unless u register under the caregiver clause.

                        If your address (assuming you not hiring maid and chooses to use the Nric address which is your in law place n not going for caregiver registration route) is successfully used for priority admission, your family must live there for at least 30 months from the start of P1 registration on 3 July 2019. If not, your child may be transferred to another school with vacancies.

                        In short, if you are not staying in that address you should not be using it as your address for registration.

                        https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/home-address/[/quote]Thanks for the information. I guess the best way is to declare using caregiver’s address.

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