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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"1934716\" time=\"1568128429\" user_id=\"17023:

      My DD1 is worried if Yr3/Yr4 she does not hit 65% and above, she will only do Sc at H1 level and she will be finished!
      I don't understand this? Is the 65% referring to overall results? Or to a specific subject? And \"Sc at H1\" - does that mean she fears she will not be in the Science stream? Surely the criteria for choosing to take a particular science is dependant on the performance in that science (and maybe Maths), not the overall average?

      I was too busy yesterday to respond, but I did read your questions about choosing between triple/double science and Hist/Geog. For the triple/double choice, it would depend on the child's ability to take that many subjects, and whether she can decide which science to drop.

      Personally, I feel that students should take subjects they are interested in, given a choice, even if they don't seem to be doing that well. Interest will help them figure out ways to improve, but disinterest can mean that when the work gets harder (and it will), they may flounder later. All subjects are \"different\" in lower vs upper sec, and different again in JC, so early performance may not be a very good predictor of later performance. You have to assess whether she is not doing well because of less important factors (like fussy teachers) or that she really can't understand the work. But for the Hist/Geog choice, if she doesn't really care one way or the other, then other factors (like father's availability to coach) will come into play.

      Again, personally, I found Geog easier to handle as it's less subjective. I love reading history, but refused to study it as a subject after Sec 2 (I had a really bad Hist teacher in Sec 2, and Hist wasn't offered to Science students in my time). I find that Geog has less memory work (no dates!) than Hist, and because it has more \"logic\" to it, I found it easier.

      Just my opinion.

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      • doodbugD Offline
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        Hi phtthp


        I attended the Sec 2 HCI Subject Options talk, and this was in relation to choosing Sec 3 subjects.

        It is compulsory for the whole of Sec 3 and 4 HCI to read Physics (no option given at all), hence there was no mention on what the Year 5 Physics H2 prerequisites are. What was made very clear to all students and parents is that for Year 5 H2 Computing and Biology, Sec 3 and 4 Computing and Biology are not a prerequisite respectively, though it will be an advantage.

        The Life Sciences Degree Programme at NUS (which is the undergraduate course for Biology and Biomedical Sciences) does not require Biology at H2 as a prerequisite.

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        • phtthpP Offline
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          Hi doodbug


          Thank you very much for the concise , useful explanation for Hwa Chong subject combination, as I am sure it will benefit many parents and students, making decision. Much appreciated, for your time 🙂

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          • doodbugD Offline
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            I have another child moving to EJC and hence I am also concerned with the prerequisites for reading subjects at EJC…I’ll have to do more research. Thanks for sharing phtthp.

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              hurlyburly6.019192gmail.019192com
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              slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1934740\" time=\"1568163483\" user_id=\"28674:

              lee_yl\" post_id=\"1934716\" time=\"1568128429\" user_id=\"17023:

              My DD1 is worried if Yr3/Yr4 she does not hit 65% and above, she will only do Sc at H1 level and she will be finished!

              I don't understand this? Is the 65% referring to overall results? Or to a specific subject? And \"Sc at H1\" - does that mean she fears she will not be in the Science stream? Surely the criteria for choosing to take a particular science is dependant on the performance in that science (and maybe Maths), not the overall average?

              I was too busy yesterday to respond, but I did read your questions about choosing between triple/double science and Hist/Geog. For the triple/double choice, it would depend on the child's ability to take that many subjects, and whether she can decide which science to drop.

              Personally, I feel that students should take subjects they are interested in, given a choice, even if they don't seem to be doing that well. Interest will help them figure out ways to improve, but disinterest can mean that when the work gets harder (and it will), they may flounder later. All subjects are \"different\" in lower vs upper sec, and different again in JC, so early performance may not be a very good predictor of later performance. You have to assess whether she is not doing well because of less important factors (like fussy teachers) or that she really can't understand the work. But for the Hist/Geog choice, if she doesn't really care one way or the other, then other factors (like father's availability to coach) will come into play.

              Again, personally, I found Geog easier to handle as it's less subjective. I love reading history, but refused to study it as a subject after Sec 2 (I had a really bad Hist teacher in Sec 2, and Hist wasn't offered to Science students in my time). I find that Geog has less memory work (no dates!) than Hist, and because it has more \"logic\" to it, I found it easier.

              Just my opinion.

              I see the comment about history and memorization a fair bit and just wanted to offer an alternative view. 🙂 Secondary school was a long time ago, but I think there's as much memorization in Geog as in History - just a question of remembering different things. History is about telling a story about events (e.g. what happened when the British came to Southeast Asia, how World War II started etc), so you need a basic grasp of what the events are, including when they happened, to be able to tell the story - just like you need a basic grasp of how different kinds of rocks erode at different rates to make sense of particular rock formations (sorry it's been a long time since I did physical Geog). Which is a long way of saying, one way of thinking about which subject to study is to pick the set of facts (historical, geographical, literary) that you're interested in explaining.

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              • sharonkhooS Offline
                sharonkhoo
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                hb\" post_id=\"1934751\" time=\"1568166670\" user_id=\"179788:

                I see the comment about history and memorization a fair bit and just wanted to offer an alternative view. 🙂 Secondary school was a long time ago, but I think there's as much memorization in Geog as in History - just a question of remembering different things. History is about telling a story about events (e.g. what happened when the British came to Southeast Asia, how World War II started etc), so you need a basic grasp of what the events are, including when they happened, to be able to tell the story - just like you need a basic grasp of how different kinds of rocks erode at different rates to make sense of particular rock formations (sorry it's been a long time since I did physical Geog). Which is a long way of saying, one way of thinking about which subject to study is to pick the set of facts (historical, geographical, literary) that you're interested in explaining.
                Totally agree! I just found remembering Geog concepts easier than telling the History \"stories\". And since I am really bad at numbers, dates just horrify me. Geog is easier for the numerically-challenged - you can round up numbers, use \"about\", \"greater/less than\" etc.

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                • phtthpP Offline
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                  doodbug\" post_id=\"1934741\" time=\"1568164075\" user_id=\"13281:



                  What was made very clear to all students and parents is that for Year 5 H2 Computing and Biology, Sec 3 and 4 Computing and Biology are not a prerequisite respectively, though it will be an advantage.

                  The Life Sciences Degree Programme at NUS (which is the undergraduate course for Biology and Biomedical Sciences) does not require Biology at H2 as a prerequisite.
                  Hi doodbug,

                  since underlined part mentioned it is compulsory for All IP5 students to take H2
                  Physics, plus H2 Chemistry herself also compulsory,

                  does it mean that nobody in IP5 taking H2 Bio ? In other words, those taking H2 Bio in Hwa Chong JC1, are only from the JAE (OP) intake?

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                  • Imp75I Offline
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                    In A level can third Lang replace a contrasting subject like econs or humanities?

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                    • MerlionInGermanyM Offline
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                      Imp75\" post_id=\"1934810\" time=\"1568180135\" user_id=\"2358:

                      In A level can third Lang replace a contrasting subject like econs or humanities?
                      Yes. You can take, for example, Bio Chem Ma, and 3rd lang.

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                      • doodbugD Offline
                        doodbug
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                        phtthp\" post_id=\"1934808\" time=\"1568179719\" user_id=\"35251:

                        doodbug\" post_id=\"1934741\" time=\"1568164075\" user_id=\"13281:




                        What was made very clear to all students and parents is that for Year 5 H2 Computing and Biology, Sec 3 and 4 Computing and Biology are not a prerequisite respectively, though it will be an advantage.

                        The Life Sciences Degree Programme at NUS (which is the undergraduate course for Biology and Biomedical Sciences) does not require Biology at H2 as a prerequisite.

                        Hi doodbug,

                        since underlined part mentioned it is compulsory for All IP5 students to take H2
                        Physics, plus H2 Chemistry herself also compulsory,

                        does it mean that nobody in IP5 taking H2 Bio ? In other words, those taking H2 Bio in Hwa Chong JC1, are only from the JAE (OP) intake?

                        Sorry phtthp, I wasn't clear. It is compulsory for all Sec 3 and Sec 4 HCI kids to read Physics. (It is definitely NOT compulsory for Year 5 students to read Physics.) I will edit my post to reflect it more accurately.

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