* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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From IP JCS A level results, other than RI,HCI still reign as Top 2, its worrying to see these IP JCS acad std has dropped/ dropping.
NJC, TJC acad std dropped out of Top 5 and to 7-9th, maybe.
VJC these few years starting dropping. -
based on 2018 A-level results, RI and Hwa Chong still remain as two dominant giant. The dark horse catching up, galloping very fast #3 are Dunman High and River Valley High
For Non-IP JCs group, Nanyang Junior College is leading the way. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1935184\" time=\"1568386477\" user_id=\"35251:
TJC and NJC take in 250 n 255++ scorers respectively, go thr IP prog during sec levels yet in JC level, A level results not better than non IP JC.
based on 2018 A-level results, RI and Hwa Chong still remain as two dominant giant. The dark horse catching up, galloping very fast #3 are Dunman High and River Valley High
For Non-IP JCs group, Nanyang Junior College is leading the way.
Some may argue that it has JAE students with 6-10 points, but these IP JCS dun segregate IP/JAE in teaching. So why cant get JAE to produce results on par with its IP students.
Its a waste. -
ilovelaksa\" post_id=\"1935083\" time=\"1568315024\" user_id=\"88602:
What I find interesting about EJC new campus... is that it's catchment will overlap significantly with RI, ASRJC and NYJC.
For EJC, the proportions for IP and JAE might change when the new campus is up and running.
Given that their IP intake is probably fixed already, there could be an increase in JAE intake.
I am not sure of the size of their current campus. But the new one is huge.
RI is probably in a class of its own at the moment, but I believe EJC may attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered NYJC. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1935197\" time=\"1568397357\" user_id=\"97579:
I say EJC will definitely attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered ASRJC. ASRJC acad std is avg.
What I find interesting about EJC new campus... is that it's catchment will overlap significantly with RI, ASRJC and NYJC.ilovelaksa\" post_id=\"1935083\" time=\"1568315024\" user_id=\"88602:
For EJC, the proportions for IP and JAE might change when the new campus is up and running.
Given that their IP intake is probably fixed already, there could be an increase in JAE intake.
I am not sure of the size of their current campus. But the new one is huge.
RI is probably in a class of its own at the moment, but I believe EJC may attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered NYJC.
NYJC....nah idts.....EJC first has to solve its IP/JAE social gap I read as its an issue now before attracting more JAEs.
EJC SCI dept std is a concern too. -
edifice\" post_id=\"1935194\" time=\"1568390340\" user_id=\"181061:
When you said non-IP JC, I suppose you were referring to NYJC? From where did you obtain information on this JC's results, in particular? Every year, you see a lot of discussion here whenever A level results are released and every year, nobody seems able to provide information on NYJC's results that enable fair comparison to other JCs.
TJC and NJC take in 250 n 255++ scorers respectively, go thr IP prog during sec levels yet in JC level, A level results not better than non IP JC.
Some may argue that it has JAE students with 6-10 points, but these IP JCS dun segregate IP/JAE in teaching. So why cant get JAE to produce results on par with its IP students.
Its a waste. -
qms\" post_id=\"1935202\" time=\"1568413482\" user_id=\"5718:
When you said non-IP JC, I suppose you were referring to NYJC? From where did you obtain information on this JC's results, in particular? Every year, you see a lot of discussion here whenever A level results are released and every year, nobody seems able to provide information on NYJC's results that enable fair comparison to other JCs.edifice\" post_id=\"1935194\" time=\"1568390340\" user_id=\"181061:
TJC and NJC take in 250 n 255++ scorers respectively, go thr IP prog during sec levels yet in JC level, A level results not better than non IP JC.
Some may argue that it has JAE students with 6-10 points, but these IP JCS dun segregate IP/JAE in teaching. So why cant get JAE to produce results on par with its IP students.
Its a waste.edifice\" post_id=\"1935181\" time=\"1568385420\" user_id=\"181061:
And once in a while you will find someone signing up/ coming up to bad mouth EJC and some other IP JCs. I think maybe some are getting nervous....From IP JCS A level results, other than RI,HCI still reign as Top 2, its worrying to see these IP JCS acad std has dropped/ dropping.
NJC, TJC acad std dropped out of Top 5 and to 7-9th, maybe.
VJC these few years starting dropping.
.....like why is this TJC and NJC and an unnamed non IP JC discussion even here? And that first post abt the other IP JCs....
And what matters more is prob your own A level results and not which school did the best? -
edifice\" post_id=\"1935201\" time=\"1568412859\" user_id=\"181061:
I say EJC will definitely attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered ASRJC. ASRJC acad std is avg.
What I find interesting about EJC new campus... is that it's catchment will overlap significantly with RI, ASRJC and NYJC.floppy\" post_id=\"1935197\" time=\"1568397357\" user_id=\"97579:
[quote=ilovelaksa post_id=1935083 time=1568315024 user_id=88602]
For EJC, the proportions for IP and JAE might change when the new campus is up and running.
Given that their IP intake is probably fixed already, there could be an increase in JAE intake.
I am not sure of the size of their current campus. But the new one is huge.
RI is probably in a class of its own at the moment, but I believe EJC may attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered NYJC.
NYJC....nah idts.....EJC first has to solve its IP/JAE social gap I read as its an issue now before attracting more JAEs.
EJC SCI dept std is a concern too.[/quote]Well, EJC will definitely attract the better of ASRJC students. However, 12/11 vs 10/9 is still a gap. NYJC 7/6 students could very well decide that a newer JC is worth the try. NYJC 9/8 students, ie affiliated students, may decide to stay put.
While NYJC (with no offense to the NYJC stan) is an above average JC today, it hasn’t solidify its position as an outstanding one despite it’s head start. I expect to see it’s shine fade and it could well follow the footsteps of the old AJC when the newer JC comes to town. I would also wager a bet that EJC is more likely to produce a President Scholar before NYJC does.
As for social gap, it’s not a deep rooted problem. JC is only a 1.5 to 2 years journey, things change quickly. If the problem is with integration at orientation etc, that could be rectify easily. It’s just part of the growing up pains of being a new JC. EJC, unlike others, is a “product” of 3 secondary schools’ IP. The other IP JCs like RI/RGS, TCHS/NYGH, VS/CGSS, etc had a long history of partnership but the 3 feeder schools for EJC have very little in common. The decision to integrate the IP students first is probably a reflection of this reality. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1935197\" time=\"1568397357\" user_id=\"97579:
Well, EJC will definitely attract the better of ASRJC students. However, 12/11 vs 10/9 is still a gap. NYJC 7/6 students could very well decide that a newer JC is worth the try. NYJC 9/8 students, ie affiliated students, may decide to stay put.
What I find interesting about EJC new campus... is that it's catchment will overlap significantly with RI, ASRJC and NYJC.
RI is probably in a class of its own at the moment, but I believe EJC may attract a large number of students who would otherwise have considered NYJC.
While NYJC (with no offense to the NYJC stan) is an above average JC today, it hasn’t solidify its position as an outstanding one despite it’s head start. I expect to see it’s shine fade and it could well follow the footsteps of the old AJC when the newer JC comes to town. I would also wager a bet that EJC is more likely to produce a President Scholar before NYJC does.
As for social gap, it’s not a deep rooted problem. JC is only a 1.5 to 2 years journey, things change quickly. If the problem is with integration at orientation etc, that could be rectify easily. It’s just part of the growing up pains of being a new JC. EJC, unlike others, is a “product” of 3 secondary schools’ IP. The other IP JCs like RI/RGS, TCHS/NYGH, VS/CGSS, etc had a long history of partnership but the 3 feeder schools for EJC have very little in common. The decision to integrate the IP students first is probably a reflection of this reality.
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Dude, if u deemed Nyjc as abv avg based on cop, then JCS VJC, NJC, EJC n lower cop JCS re only Avg JCS too.
If based on results, Nyjc RP is abv EJC ( u go find out ), then EJC is considered Avg JC too. -
edifice\" post_id=\"1935213\" time=\"1568425200\" user_id=\"181061:
I've looked it up: https://www.cocotutors.com/average-rank-points-rp-of-junior-colleges-across-sg/
Dude, if u deemed Nyjc as abv avg based on cop, then JCS VJC, NJC, EJC n lower cop JCS re only Avg JCS too.
If based on results, Nyjc RP is abv EJC ( u go find out ), then EJC is considered Avg JC too.
VJC average RP is 83.8.
VJC COP is 7 /5.
NJC median RP is 84.4*
NJC COP is 7 / 6.
NYJC median RP is 85**
NYJC COP is 7 / 6.
ACJC average RP is 80.9.
ACJC COP is 8 / 7.
EJC average RP is 82.4.
EJC COP is 9 / 9.
TJC average RP is 80 (cohort), 83 (IP)
TJC COP is 9 / 9.
*Median =/= Average. Average is always going to be lower than median for A Levels.
**Should be median not average... but I'll fix that for them.
On the premise, NYJC median RP is good, but not outstanding (I'm also generally skeptical of rounded up / down whole numbers). It is producing what it is expected to produce based on COP - nothing more, nothing less (which isn't a bad thing). EJC, on the other hand, has good reasons to be proud of itself. It's performing better than JCs with similar COP - it is punching above it's weight (but it could also be a case of IP students pulling up the averages). I see both JC as above average JC BUT given the room to grow, there's definitely more upside to EJC than NYJC in the mid / long run.
Notwithstanding, here's the problem of using a single data point to substantiate an argument, it's meaningless. There's lies, damned lies and statistics. Until there's a further breakdown in the numbers, you can formulate any conclusion you want... and you aren't the first NYJC stan trying to 'big' the JC here.
P/S: All these talk about VJC and NJC dropping out of the top rankings are premature. That said, given the general trend, there's a good case to be made for TJC not being a top JC anymore. VJC may have a blip in terms of their average RP last year but their general trend line is good, and it did produce 1 of the 4 President Scholars last year. Therefore, it could very well be a small handful of students (or even 1 student) not putting in their weight last year (pulling down the average).
P/P/S: The term \"Big 5\" used to be meaningful when there are 20 schools of similar size (18 JCs and 2 Institutes) offering A Level or equivalent. Today, there are only 19 such schools, including 2 IB schools and 2 ‘special’ schools with much smaller cohort than a typical JC.
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