2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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manorway\" post_id=\"1937045\" time=\"1569381449\" user_id=\"9303:
these big 4 are decided, Not by (COP entry at Sec 1 , nor by the JAE COP entry at Year 5 JC1), but decided by
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How are the big 4 decided?
the performance of yearly batches of GCE \"A\" level results, churned out.
last year, 2018 GCE \"A\" level performance, based on UAS score -
#1 Hwa Chong Junior College
#2 Raffles Institution
#3 Dunman High or River Valley High ?
last year, 2018 A-level batch of Hwa Chong students' A-level Mathematics H2 performance, very strong, powerful, did better than RI H2 Maths performance
another attraction, besides A-level results, how the big 4 are decided -
is due to the strong, alumni network in existence (at work)
for MGS -
although her IB Sec 1 COP is very high, at 260 (in one of the past years), however,
the Number of students choosing A-level path, far exceed that the Number of students selecting IB curriculum. A-level, after all, is still more popular than IB track -
P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937138\" time=\"1569395559\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937138 time=1569395559 user_id=68074]
phtthp\" post_id=\"1937130\" time=\"1569395006\" user_id=\"35251:
True that....[/quote]
if school fees in MGS (OP track) is charging $300+ per month, so expensive, then why is MGS generating \"mid-tier\" L1R5 O-level results, instead of generating \"top-tier\" O-level results ?
since when o level results and the school fees is related?
then schools like cedar girls should produce mid / low tier results since they are only paying $15/month. -
P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937123\" time=\"1569392925\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937123 time=1569392925 user_id=68074]
cutepandabear\" post_id=\"1937107\" time=\"1569391359\" user_id=\"150031:
Well presented facts with no name calling.I have seen the slides the MGS Principal presented at their info talk for P6s few months ago. Actually, the performance of their O level track girls is nothing to shout about. It's decent but I would say it is mid-tier.
The MGS IB track girls' performance however, was quite impressive. They showed how their IB girls did after they went to ACSI and got the IB diploma.
I would say the MGS IB girls are of a high calibre, the same girls that would apply to RGS and NYGH too.
220s will produce o level results that are nothing to shout about. Hence mid tier school for olevels. If you are in mgs pri n even get in the 240s i dont see you going back to your own pri school when you can be in a homogenous sec school that takes student in your league...
So similarly, unless you want to die die to do the iB if you exceed the cop or even if you are sitting on the cop, top 4 is where u would go you would at least try ur luck. Leave the mid tier for those in the mid tier. That's life. It may hurt but thats the way it is....
Floppy calling someone daft is calling names but im sure u choose to digress, yet again.[/quote]
I cannot agree with you on this. You do not try your luck when it comes to education; you choose what it is best suited for you (i.e. IB or A level). -
think better to get our facts right
first, what is the definition of a "top-tier" OP school, vs. a "mid-tier" OP school ?
for "top-tier" OP school, what kind of L1R5 O-level results roughly are they generating, per batch ?
if a school’s cohort average L1R5 cohort is say, 10 points and below -
is this considered a "top", or a "mid-tier" OP school ?
for a start, how is (MGS, SCGS, Cedar Girls, St Nick) O-level L1R5 performance, like ?
maybe can begin with 2018, or 2017, 2016, past 3 O-level batches
and for the boys, how are (ACSI, Victoria school, Catholic High) O-level L1R5 performance, like ?
MGS, SCGS, ACSI OP : pay $300+, per month
the rest : pay around $30, per month
question -
is there a big difference, in the OP results, from schools paying $300 per months, vs. schools paying $30 per month, less than one-tenth of what they are paying ?
if no big difference, then what value-addedness is there, by paying $300 per month school fees, so expensively ? -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1937154\" time=\"1569399014\" user_id=\"35251:
shouldn't you have established this first before making statements such as ....
think better to get our facts right
first, what is the definition of a \"top-tier\" OP school, vs. a \"mid-tier\" OP school ?
for \"top-tier\" OP school, what kind of L1R5 O-level results roughly are they generating, per batch ?
if a school's cohort average L1R5 cohort is say, 10 points and below -
is this considered a \"top\", or a \"mid-tier\" OP school ?
\"if school fees in MGS (OP track) is charging $300+ per month, so expensive, then why is MGS generating \"mid-tier\" L1R5 O-level results, instead of generating \"top-tier\" O-level results ?\" -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1937146\" time=\"1569397240\" user_id=\"35251:
A Level is a nationalised examination, i.e. the default go-to exam for all government schools (offering Pre-U education). Only independent schools can choose to offer IB. Therefore, you will always get more A Level students than IB students because there are only so few independent schools to begin with*
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for MGS -
although her IB Sec 1 COP is very high, at 260 (in one of the past years), however,
the Number of students choosing A-level path, far exceed that the Number of students selecting IB curriculum. A-level, after all, is still more popular than IB track
A Level is 'popular' not necessarily by choice but because there isn't any other choice.
*Discounting the specialised independent schools, between the 8 independent schools, 3 are already offering IB. -
zeemimi:
your daughter currently studying or have studied in which Secondary school, before ?
since when o level results and the school fees is related?
then schools like cedar girls should produce mid / low tier results since they are only paying $15/month.
@ MGS or @ Cedar ?
flash back and recalled ... back then, when your daughter was in Primary 6, when u helped her choose a Secondary school, assuming that she chose an OP school, what were your factors of consideration, back then ?
Wouldn't you factor in
- distance travelling ?
- O level cohort L1R5 performance in that school, past batches ?
- school fees, per month ?
- what kind of talent development programme available, inside the school ? -
floppy\" post_id=\"1937157\" time=\"1569400828\" user_id=\"97579:
but still, are parents given a choice to select, which track they want ? IB track or A-level track ? Yes, of course
A Level is a nationalised examination, i.e. the default go-to exam for all government schools (offering Pre-U education). Only independent schools can choose to offer IB. Therefore, you will always get more A Level students than IB students because there are only so few independent schools to begin with*
A Level is 'popular' not necessarily by choice but because there isn't any other choice.
*Discounting the specialised independent schools, between the 8 independent schools, 3 are already offering IB.
if parents really desire their daughter go IB, then choose MGS
but if parents prefer their daughter remain A-level track, then choose other schools that offer A-level
is Not that
parents are NOT given any choice ,... that ALL \"die-die\" must go A-level -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1937161\" time=\"1569401294\" user_id=\"35251:
If only, it is so simple.
but still, are parents given a choice to select, which track they want ? IB track or A-level track ? Yes, of coursefloppy\" post_id=\"1937157\" time=\"1569400828\" user_id=\"97579:
A Level is a nationalised examination, i.e. the default go-to exam for all government schools (offering Pre-U education). Only independent schools can choose to offer IB. Therefore, you will always get more A Level students than IB students because there are only so few independent schools to begin with*
A Level is 'popular' not necessarily by choice but because there isn't any other choice.
*Discounting the specialised independent schools, between the 8 independent schools, 3 are already offering IB.
if parents really desire their daughter go IB, then choose MGS
but if parents prefer their daughter remain A-level track, then choose other schools that offer A-level
is Not that
parents are NOT given any choice ,... that ALL \"die-die\" must go A-level
There is a teeny weeny problem...
There is only ONE girls' school offering IB programme, never mind the 'low' COP of 258+
The other 2 schools with a similarly low COP - RGS and NYGH.
You basically have choices, if you are scoring 258+ only. If parents really desire their daughter to go IB, but has a score less than 258, there are plenty of A Level IP but none for IB.
It is only an illusion of choice. -
floppy:
ok, i see your point now, about \" illusion of choice'. Indeed it is, because only those scored 258+, then got chance to consider IB. Those below 258, even if want IB, also no chance
If only, it is so simple.
There is a teeny weeny problem...
There is only ONE girls' school offering IB programme, never mind the 'low' COP of 258+
The other 2 schools with a similarly low COP - RGS and NYGH.
You basically have choice, if you are scoring 258+ only. If parents really desire their daughter to go IB, but has a score less than 258, there are plenty of A Level IP but none for IB.
It is only an illusion of choice.
those parents who are very pro-IB, can share (or don't mind sharing), what are some strong, powerful reasons that will lure (entice / attract) u over to \"die-die\" choose IB, & drop A-level mindset totally ?
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