2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941393\" time=\"1571177205\" user_id=\"2964:
actually it is not compulsory to send a child to secondary school, isn't it? :evil:
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
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The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
floppy\" post_id=\"1941407\" time=\"1571187396\" user_id=\"97579:
There are updates on exemption, apparently
The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941413\" time=\"1571189730\" user_id=\"145858:
Probably, but doesn’t affect secondary education as not being compulsory.
There are updates on exemption, apparentlyfloppy\" post_id=\"1941407\" time=\"1571187396\" user_id=\"97579:
The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
I only wanted to point out that sec school education is not compulsory. Therefore, not every local sec 1 student must study in the sec school found in MOE SIS. I added this “moe sis”
So it is possible that a person who did PSLE and had a higher score than 280, and did not appear in MOE SIS. in exactly the same way it was mentioned, one very known possibility is DSA.
So besides the score of DSA kids who did not appear in MOE SIS, there is also a few groups whose score will not appear. These groups are homeschool children, those who go overseas, and those who go to international school.
Homeschool children, I cannot give stats and no source, but my friend’s 2 kids are not attending sec school. They are supposed to be sec 2 and sec 3 this year. It is possible to do it because sec school is not compulsory, therefore there is no need to take part in s1 posting if you dont want to, just dont submit the form. No need to inform any ministry also.
For overseas, my kid’s 4 ex classmates are now overseas, 3 in boarding schools, and 1 staying with relatives. I am not sure if they asked for it or were told to go. Except for one, who had been asking since pri 3, cos her sister went after her sister’s PSLE.
For international schools, even more. So many of them are in SJI international and HC international. One is in ACS international. Another friend just told me yesterday, that his son who just did PSLE 2019, will be joining SJI International, wont be taking part in S1 posting and whose score will not be captured.
My purpose was to point out that not every PSLE score is captured, besides DSA that had been mentioned, there is also these 3 groups.
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941425\" time=\"1571191239\" user_id=\"2964:
interesting to find these out in this forum.... becos i'm in the typical average SG world... dun know anyone whose child is homeschooled / in international sch / sent overseas
I only wanted to point out that sec school education is not compulsory. Therefore, not every local sec 1 student must study in the sec school found in MOE SIS. I added this “moe sis”
So it is possible that a person who did PSLE and had a higher score than 280, and did not appear in MOE SIS. in exactly the same way it was mentioned, one very known possibility is DSA.
So besides the score of DSA kids who did not appear in MOE SIS, there is also a few groups whose score will not appear. These groups are homeschool children, those who go overseas, and those who go to international school.
Homeschool children, I cannot give stats and no source, but my friend’s 2 kids are not attending sec school. They are supposed to be sec 2 and sec 3 this year. It is possible to do it because sec school is not compulsory, therefore there is no need to take part in s1 posting if you dont want to, just dont submit the form. No need to inform any ministry also.
For overseas, my kid’s 4 ex classmates are now overseas, 3 in boarding schools, and 1 staying with relatives. I am not sure if they asked for it or were told to go. Except for one, who had been asking since pri 3, cos her sister went after her sister’s PSLE.
For international schools, even more. So many of them are in SJI international and HC international. One is in ACS international. Another friend just told me yesterday, that his son who just did PSLE 2019, will be joining SJI International, wont be taking part in S1 posting and whose score will not be captured.
My purpose was to point out that not every PSLE score is captured, besides DSA that had been mentioned, there is also these 3 groups.
:lovesite:
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1941399\" time=\"1571185123\" user_id=\"28674:
I don't think these statistics are readily available although MOE probably has some idea. The numbers are probably extremely small, but some families do choose these routes. I personally know families who choose to homeschool all the way, but the kids take PSLE because that is the rule under the compusory education law (limited to Pr school). I don't know if their scores are captured in the various statistics even if they don't take part in the S1 posting exercise. I also know families who send their kids to boarding schools overseas, some even before sec school. And I also know families who have their kids in international schools in Singapore. Boarding school and international school options are expensive, of course, and beyond the reach of low income families. Even homeschool is \"expensive\" in the sense that usually a parent will have to stay home to homeschool, or the child will have to attend a homeschool cooperative (which have fees higher than Singapore schools).[/quote]Oh this is great. Do you happen to have sources? I am just kidding. I dont need sources or statistics. I have many friends.
Hi MerlionGermany,phtthp\" post_id=\"1941397\" time=\"1571183633\" user_id=\"35251:
[quote=MerlionInGermany post_id=1941393 time=1571177205 user_id=2964]
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ? Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?
And anyway, I dont think the number going to international school is small. I know many 200 - 239 in international schools. One may ask why 23x also go, the reason is because the parents think it is better (for face value) going to international schools than to go to other schools that they qualify for. Like this friend whose kid will be joining SJI international, the PSLE result is also not out yet, but he knows the kid will not make it to the handful of “choice” schools, so SJI International has a better wow factor than the schools the kid will qualify for. True story. Just told to me yesterday over lunch. Even though he has been telling me about these plans since the kid hit p4. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941397\" time=\"1571183633\" user_id=\"35251:Hi MerlionGermany,
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
perhaps, handicapped or disabled children, not convenient to move around in wheel-chair in school compound, may need home-school.
Bu,t if home-school, means one parent need to be dedicated all day long, stay at home, educate the child from 13 to 16 or 18 yo, so long, so many years. Means this parent cannot go outside to work, earn $ income for the family. What if the family is poor, both parents need to work, so as to put food on the table to feed the whole family (makan), then how ? still can afford, to home-school ? of course not
But if their children are fine, nothing wrong with them, healthy, no physical handicap whatsoever, won't parents naturally prefer to let them study in Secondary school ?
Won't parents prefer their children to grow up all rounded - socially through interaction with fellow class-mates, school-mates, emotionally, physcially through Sports PE lessons, through joining some CCA ?
won't parents prefer that their kids to attend school, since their kid nothing wrong, no handicap, win some award from MOE ?
list of award available, from MOE
https://www.moe.gov.sg/education/edusave/edusave-scholarships-for-independent-schools-%28esis%29
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ?
Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?
I know quite a few secondary school SG kids who were sent overseas to boarding schools. Not Joseph Schooling but non-sporty kids! Parents wanted them to be educated that way.
I also know parents who chose to homeschool Sec sch level kids. Some for religious reasons and some because the parents just don’t see the point of those MOE awards or CCAs. They think kids can still learn more by joining other external activities and spend time on hobbies.
There are a few who choose to homeschool because kids cannot get into TOP schools anyway. So the parents think homeschool is better than going to other schools.
I know over 25 kids who are in international schools. All SG citizens. Why go there? They want IB but cannot get in with PSLE scores. Parents can afford. So no issue.
Don’t know if there are stats. I imagine can find it if one is curious enough. But these 3 groups exist. -
Timmy21\" post_id=\"1941426\" time=\"1571191878\" user_id=\"122721:
I suppose I have many friends. But obviously there is someone who is not friendly with me. :siam:
interesting to find these out in this forum.... becos i'm in the typical average SG world... dun know anyone whose child is homeschooled / in international sch / sent overseasMerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941425\" time=\"1571191239\" user_id=\"2964:
I only wanted to point out that sec school education is not compulsory. Therefore, not every local sec 1 student must study in the sec school found in MOE SIS. I added this “moe sis”
So it is possible that a person who did PSLE and had a higher score than 280, and did not appear in MOE SIS. in exactly the same way it was mentioned, one very known possibility is DSA.
So besides the score of DSA kids who did not appear in MOE SIS, there is also a few groups whose score will not appear. These groups are homeschool children, those who go overseas, and those who go to international school.
Homeschool children, I cannot give stats and no source, but my friend’s 2 kids are not attending sec school. They are supposed to be sec 2 and sec 3 this year. It is possible to do it because sec school is not compulsory, therefore there is no need to take part in s1 posting if you dont want to, just dont submit the form. No need to inform any ministry also.
For overseas, my kid’s 4 ex classmates are now overseas, 3 in boarding schools, and 1 staying with relatives. I am not sure if they asked for it or were told to go. Except for one, who had been asking since pri 3, cos her sister went after her sister’s PSLE.
For international schools, even more. So many of them are in SJI international and HC international. One is in ACS international. Another friend just told me yesterday, that his son who just did PSLE 2019, will be joining SJI International, wont be taking part in S1 posting and whose score will not be captured.
My purpose was to point out that not every PSLE score is captured, besides DSA that had been mentioned, there is also these 3 groups.
:lovesite:
Anyway, the homeschool children, to answer an earlier query, are normal, good looking, children who scored 24x. They do not agree with the Singapore education system. They think more can be learnt through working in the society. They are not working working, like paid salary since they are not allowed to really work, but they learn things, like cooking, gardening, coding. Of course if you ask me, why would a 12-year-old have such strong feelings against the system. But you can guess right? The fact that they dont go to school, and yet still get money to learn things, means the family is fully supportive. So the adults in the family are prob the ones who gave them the idea.
International school in SG is not very expensive, if one can pay for a few subjects at Learning Lab, one can send the kid to the international schools here.
Overseas boarding school is the expensive one. But if you have relatives staying there, then it is not expensive to attend a school overseas, even as a foreigner. In fact, some schools are free of charge. You pay misc fees only. And if I may add, just in case I get so many questions, the ones i know who are overseas scored 230x to 24x, one is 26x, and they have no learning disability (redundant to add this but I cant help it!) . The parents just feel the system there and there and there, is better than here. 3 “there”s because these kids I know are in 3different countries.
The world is bigger than TLL and Wang lao shi.
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Singaporean students studying in International Schools in Singapore - can they drop Mother Tongue?
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