2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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Same as MIG, we also know several Singaporean families who send their (TScores ranging from 19+ to 23+) kids to local international schools...
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doodbug\" post_id=\"1941433\" time=\"1571193341\" user_id=\"13281:
haha. Gd Qn
Singaporean students studying in International Schools in Singapore - can they drop Mother Tongue?
Good to still learn the Lang, Culture, values but non exam -
i also wonder study in Intl Spore Sch :acs int, Sji Int, HC int - still need tuition or not ?
if not need tuitiion - the fees of $2k plus may be manageable to some families -
manorway\" post_id=\"1941431\" time=\"1571193109\" user_id=\"9303:
You need to quote properly, gave me a heart attack, for a moment I thought there was 2 of them!
I know quite a few secondary school SG kids who were sent overseas to boarding schools. Not Joseph Schooling but non-sporty kids! Parents wanted them to be educated that way.phtthp\" post_id=\"1941397\" time=\"1571183633\" user_id=\"35251:
Hi MerlionGermany,
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
perhaps, handicapped or disabled children, not convenient to move around in wheel-chair in school compound, may need home-school.
Bu,t if home-school, means one parent need to be dedicated all day long, stay at home, educate the child from 13 to 16 or 18 yo, so long, so many years. Means this parent cannot go outside to work, earn $ income for the family. What if the family is poor, both parents need to work, so as to put food on the table to feed the whole family (makan), then how ? still can afford, to home-school ? of course not
But if their children are fine, nothing wrong with them, healthy, no physical handicap whatsoever, won't parents naturally prefer to let them study in Secondary school ?
Won't parents prefer their children to grow up all rounded - socially through interaction with fellow class-mates, school-mates, emotionally, physcially through Sports PE lessons, through joining some CCA ?
won't parents prefer that their kids to attend school, since their kid nothing wrong, no handicap, win some award from MOE ?
list of award available, from MOE
https://www.moe.gov.sg/education/edusave/edusave-scholarships-for-independent-schools-%28esis%29
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ?
Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?
I also know parents who chose to homeschool Sec sch level kids. Some for religious reasons and some because the parents just don’t see the point of those MOE awards or CCAs. They think kids can still learn more by joining other external activities and spend time on hobbies.
There are a few who choose to homeschool because kids cannot get into TOP schools anyway. So the parents think homeschool is better than going to other schools.
I know over 25 kids who are in international schools. All SG citizens. Why go there? They want IB but cannot get in with PSLE scores. Parents can afford. So no issue.
Don’t know if there are stats. I imagine can find it if one is curious enough. But these 3 groups exist.
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941427\" time=\"1571192052\" user_id=\"2964:
Oh this is great. Do you happen to have sources? I am just kidding. I dont need sources or statistics. I have many friends.
I don't think these statistics are readily available although MOE probably has some idea. The numbers are probably extremely small, but some families do choose these routes. I personally know families who choose to homeschool all the way, but the kids take PSLE because that is the rule under the compusory education law (limited to Pr school). I don't know if their scores are captured in the various statistics even if they don't take part in the S1 posting exercise. I also know families who send their kids to boarding schools overseas, some even before sec school. And I also know families who have their kids in international schools in Singapore. Boarding school and international school options are expensive, of course, and beyond the reach of low income families. Even homeschool is \"expensive\" in the sense that usually a parent will have to stay home to homeschool, or the child will have to attend a homeschool cooperative (which have fees higher than Singapore schools).slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1941399\" time=\"1571185123\" user_id=\"28674:
[quote=phtthp post_id=1941397 time=1571183633 user_id=35251]
Hi MerlionGermany,
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ? Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?
And anyway, I dont think the number going to international school is small. I know many 200 - 239 in international schools. One may ask why 23x also go, the reason is because the parents think it is better (for face value) going to international schools than to go to other schools that they qualify for. Like this friend whose kid will be joining SJI international, the PSLE result is also not out yet, but he knows the kid will not make it to the handful of “choice” schools, so SJI International has a better wow factor than the schools the kid will qualify for. True story. Just told to me yesterday over lunch. Even though he has been telling me about these plans since the kid hit p4.[/quote]Hi MIG,
Why do your friend has such strong feeling towards SJI International? -
I know quite a few secondary school SG kids who were sent overseas to boarding schools. Not Joseph Schooling but non-sporty kids! Parents wanted them to be educated that way.
I also know parents who chose to homeschool Sec sch level kids. Some for religious reasons and some because the parents just don’t see the point of those MOE awards or CCAs. They think kids can still learn more by joining other external activities and spend time on hobbies.
There are a few who choose to homeschool because kids cannot get into TOP schools anyway. So the parents think homeschool is better than going to other schools.
I know over 25 kids who are in international schools. All SG citizens. Why go there? They want IB but cannot get in with PSLE scores. Parents can afford. So no issue.
Don’t know if there are stats. I imagine can find it if one is curious enough. But these 3 groups exist. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941427\" time=\"1571192052\" user_id=\"2964:
Someone I know just coughed up $6k as deposit and confirmation for a place in ACS International next year, before the child even sat for PSLE :scared: The child is likely to score > 240 but after he couldn't secure a place via DSA, the dad decides to send him to ACS International instead (but if the child manages to score > 255, they may have a change of heart and send him to ACSI instead).
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And anyway, I dont think the number going to international school is small. I know many 200 - 239 in international schools. One may ask why 23x also go, the reason is because the parents think it is better (for face value) going to international schools than to go to other schools that they qualify for. Like this friend whose kid will be joining SJI international, the PSLE result is also not out yet, but he knows the kid will not make it to the handful of “choice” schools, so SJI International has a better wow factor than the schools the kid will qualify for. True story. Just told to me yesterday over lunch. Even though he has been telling me about these plans since the kid hit p4.
It's great when money is not a concern
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MyPillow\" post_id=\"1941437\" time=\"1571193941\" user_id=\"70594:
Part 2 i can answer. Still go. Need or not, i dont know. But go.
haha. Gd Qndoodbug\" post_id=\"1941433\" time=\"1571193341\" user_id=\"13281:
Singaporean students studying in International Schools in Singapore - can they drop Mother Tongue?
Good to still learn the Lang, Culture, values but non exam -
i also wonder study in Intl Spore Sch :acs int, Sji Int, HC int - still need tuition or not ?
if not need tuitiion - the fees of $2k plus may be manageable to some families
Abt Chinese, i never ask. -
Giggler1\" post_id=\"1941440\" time=\"1571194108\" user_id=\"19829:
Hi MIG,
Oh this is great. Do you happen to have sources? I am just kidding. I dont need sources or statistics. I have many friends.MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941427\" time=\"1571192052\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=slmkhoo post_id=1941399 time=1571185123 user_id=28674]
I don't think these statistics are readily available although MOE probably has some idea. The numbers are probably extremely small, but some families do choose these routes. I personally know families who choose to homeschool all the way, but the kids take PSLE because that is the rule under the compusory education law (limited to Pr school). I don't know if their scores are captured in the various statistics even if they don't take part in the S1 posting exercise. I also know families who send their kids to boarding schools overseas, some even before sec school. And I also know families who have their kids in international schools in Singapore. Boarding school and international school options are expensive, of course, and beyond the reach of low income families. Even homeschool is \"expensive\" in the sense that usually a parent will have to stay home to homeschool, or the child will have to attend a homeschool cooperative (which have fees higher than Singapore schools).
And anyway, I dont think the number going to international school is small. I know many 200 - 239 in international schools. One may ask why 23x also go, the reason is because the parents think it is better (for face value) going to international schools than to go to other schools that they qualify for. Like this friend whose kid will be joining SJI international, the PSLE result is also not out yet, but he knows the kid will not make it to the handful of “choice” schools, so SJI International has a better wow factor than the schools the kid will qualify for. True story. Just told to me yesterday over lunch. Even though he has been telling me about these plans since the kid hit p4.
Why do your friend has such strong feeling towards SJI International?[/quote]I never asked before. Maybe he’s catholic. It is nearer his house than acs international, this i know, but dont know if that is the reason. Acs international is a bit more expensive ...but i think not because of fees, prob distance. Not my concern so i never asked. -
Unbeknownst to many KS heartlanders, SJI is a hidden gem@Malcolm. I know a lot of SJI boys. Got 2 in my dept. Some of my HNW friends who only fine wine and dine did not care about PSLE and other national exams, but only aimed for SJI International. It's an oft-forgotten \"贵族书院\" with a deep pocket. Lots of donations, sponsorships, intangible frills and perks you can't get at govt schools. They are in their own league.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/sji-partners-cambridge-to-offer-new-scholarship -
There are definitely some kids from ACS Int'l/SJI Int'l/HCI Int'l having IB tuition at some of the IB tuition centres
All three schools do the IB, and Chinese at IB is already much much much less onerous than O level CL or HCL.
There are families who choose international school over local schools as they prefer the IB syllabus over the MOE syllabus (and they can afford it).
As for boarding schools, I've only checked out some of the boarding schools in the UK (I have no knowledge of Australia or US) - it is far more common for Hong Kongers to send their kids to Boarding School at the Secondary School stage, than Singaporeans. Singaporeans who go tend to enter at the equivalent of JC1. Generally, the A level requirements are much less onerous in the UK, as there is no GP, MT and PW requirement; neither are there CCA requirements. Also, you may be able to accelerate one year compared to Singaporean peers (if you leave at Sec 4 September intake, complete A levels in 1 year 9 months, and then join the September university intake in the same year of Jun A levels).
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