2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941495\" time=\"1571203733\" user_id=\"145858:
I didnt have any comment on distribution of the t score with regards to that post. I merely wanted to point out that it is not compulsory for local sec 1 students to study in the local moe schools. To right a wrong assumption. In case families think it is the end of the world if cannot make it to local moe schools.
thanks for sharingMerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941425\" time=\"1571191239\" user_id=\"2964:
I only wanted to point out that sec school education is not compulsory. Therefore, not every local sec 1 student must study in the sec school found in MOE SIS. I added this “moe sis”
So it is possible that a person who did PSLE and had a higher score than 280, and did not appear in MOE SIS. in exactly the same way it was mentioned, one very known possibility is DSA.
So besides the score of DSA kids who did not appear in MOE SIS, there is also a few groups whose score will not appear. These groups are homeschool children, those who go overseas, and those who go to international school.
Homeschool children, I cannot give stats and no source, but my friend’s 2 kids are not attending sec school. They are supposed to be sec 2 and sec 3 this year. It is possible to do it because sec school is not compulsory, therefore there is no need to take part in s1 posting if you dont want to, just dont submit the form. No need to inform any ministry also.
For overseas, my kid’s 4 ex classmates are now overseas, 3 in boarding schools, and 1 staying with relatives. I am not sure if they asked for it or were told to go. Except for one, who had been asking since pri 3, cos her sister went after her sister’s PSLE.
For international schools, even more. So many of them are in SJI international and HC international. One is in ACS international. Another friend just told me yesterday, that his son who just did PSLE 2019, will be joining SJI International, wont be taking part in S1 posting and whose score will not be captured.
My purpose was to point out that not every PSLE score is captured, besides DSA that had been mentioned, there is also these 3 groups.
:lovesite:
I love this forum too, can learn a lot. I always thought we have the ideal 10 years too.
https://postimg.cc/xc30bvWT
However, the original discussion was about some magic t-scores numbers ....;p
ESIS was based on those who used their PSLE t-scores for admission, so DSA are not meant to be included.
Assuming we include the 3 groups you have mentioned, from top end to bottom, then it would not affect the computation of the population anyway, unless you are saying they represent a specific end of the population e.g. top end.
On a side note, the \"guru's\" estimation is based on the assumption that the top 10% are uniformly distributed from top score to top 10% score. Doesn't sound believable. Is this just for top 10%? the estimation does not work for top 30% ~ 184 t-score. Definitely not the same distribution for other part of the population.
thanks for sharing
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1941465\" time=\"1571197546\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1941465 time=1571197546 user_id=53606]
This is very interesting. Most primary schools will insist the child sit Foundation subjects if they failed P5. But I guess the parent had big enough influence to override the school...phtthp\" post_id=\"1941454\" time=\"1571196454\" user_id=\"35251:
hi sky,[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=1941434 time=1571193525 user_id=130531]Same as MIG, we also know several Singaporean families who send their (TScores ranging from 19+ to 23+) kids to local international schools...
have a friend whose kid P6 this year, faced learning difficulty, from a rich family.
This child had been failing all 4 subjects, since P1 to P6, in all (SA1, SA2) exam.
Although child faced learning difficulty, but MOE did not grant him exemption (Chinese).
So, he still took Standard Chinese PSLE paper (1 and 2) recently, on Monday (30 Sep 2019)
Ever advised parent to let child take Foundation Chinese, instead of Standard Chinese.
However, parent initially did consider, but in the end, dropped the idea.
6 years ago, back then in 2014 Primary 1, this child could have joined a local Primary school, dedicated to handle education for special need kids. (won't mention the name of the primary school, here)
i told parents that that good local special-need primary school, would benefit child, long term wise.
However, because this parent is a very senior key personnel working in a highly visible, high-powered organization, because of \"face\" issue, parent insisted that child go study in a GEP primary school, because parent is an alumni from a coveted GEP school, so enrolled child into GEP primary school.
Based on recent August 2019 P6 Prelim, child also failed all 4 subjects. Each subject, scored way below 50 / 100
parent think likely this child will fail 2019 PSLE.
As a result, parent think that likely, child be channelled into a \"local Secondary school, dedicated for students who failed PSLE\", via MOE S1 posting results.
However, parent don't want child to go into this local Secondary school, because of \"face\" issue.
Parents don't want relatives nor office colleagues, to know that child going to be posted there.
Due to learning difficulty, child not independent, the parents won't send child to overseas boarding school
question
from above sharing, since this child's rich parents can afford, is it better to
- homeschool him, or
- send child to a \"ACS / HCI / SJI\" International School, for secondary education ?
($ is not any issue to them, because parents are rich businessmen )[/quote]
If fail PSLE two times, can apply to Northlight School (MOE does not post kids there, u apply yourself). If fail PSLE one time, can apply also but less priority I think.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northlight_School
But if parent wants face and super rich, then sure go international school lor.
I don’t think international schools care what PSLE grades u get.[/quote]actually, the ultimate underlying objective of this parent for the child, is to gain EXEMPTION from Mother tongue (Chinese). Totally drop this entire whole Chinese subject, so that no need to spend any more time study Chinese, can just focus only on the remaining 3 subjects.
However, once MOE did Not approve of the kid's exemption (Chinese), to this parent, it doesn't make any difference anymore, because even if were to take Foundation Chinese, parent said child still need to spend time study Chinese.
Another reason is
parent fear if child once start taking a Foundation subject, child will end up in Normal stream (Secondary school).
How far this is true about ending up in Normal stream, not sure.
That's why after some consideration, parent decided to drop the idea of do Foundation Chinese
One parent is a Chinese, the other parent is a Non-Chinese
anyway, to me, in my opinion, i feel that the parents had made a serious mistake.
Had the child gone to the special-need school, where got specialized trained skilled Teachers to teach the child in a small classroom setting, instead of 40 pupils in a Mainstream primary school, the child (with learning issue) would have benefited much more, long term wise.
Moreover, if child had gone to that special-need school since Primary 1, in that school, all children need study only 3 subjects, because Chinese is automatically exempted over there. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941402\" time=\"1571185676\" user_id=\"35251:
So fierce. Is this accepted for forum etiquette? Is this hardware zone? :nunchuk:
And MerlionGermany,
by the way, i had also noticed a pattern in you.
I noticed that this is not the first time, you tried to \"ge kiang\" in Hokkien (in English, means \"act like a smart Alec\") on the messages that I posted into this forum. For some past messages, u did the same, but i chose to keep quiet (silent) back then, because i don't like to kick up a fuss in this forum. And because it already happened more than once, that's why i decided to let you know, what i had noticed.
What is it, that i had noticed about you ? You are very quick, in trying to correct things that i said, in this forum. You act very quickly, on the spot
Relax.... -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941517\" time=\"1571207146\" user_id=\"2964:
is not a matter of \"fierce\", but trying to stand up for myself
So fierce. Is this accepted for forum etiquette? Is this hardware zone? :nunchuk:
Relax....
you yourself know better, deep inside you, why u do this, because this is Not the first time.
And those people who know me well, long enough in this forum, know that i don't go around kick up fuss.
If this is the first time u do this to me, i would have let it go. But this is not the first time
MerlioninGermany, can see that you are a smart woman.
From the way u replied this forum, indeed you have covered yourself well.
check your own heart
\"Ren zai zuo, Tian zai kan\" -
bluepencil\" post_id=\"1941459\" time=\"1571196872\" user_id=\"165241:
Can read up on Georgia Institute of Technology.
Hi
Just wondering, which are the common colleges the JC students go to in US to pursue computing?
I am not referring to stanford or caltech. like what other good colleges are there? not necessarily MIT.
Is there a thread for US colleges? tks!
Again, I agree with a parent here that it is better to pose this question elsewhere - Tertiary Education section. -
littleprince\" post_id=\"1941469\" time=\"1571198186\" user_id=\"19510:
hi littleprince,
Does anyone know what is the pre-requisite for the student to be able to study either Biology-Chemistry-Math-Econs or Chemistry-Physics-Math-Econs at year 5 at these schools such as RI, NJC, HCI? Having this information would be good for us to decide whether to select these schools for the S1 exercise, knowing that it is going to be very competitive there
for St Nick Secondary school, All students must buy a Secondary school \"diary\".
Students purchase the diary, from school book-shop.
Inside this school diary, in the front few pages, diary printed out the Promotional criteria clearly, for each year, for both (OP and IP) stream
example
from end of Sec 1, what is the criteria to be promoted into Sec 2,
... etc
from end of Year 4 (IP), into Year 5 (Eunoia Junior College)
i am not sure, whether there is such a similar school diary for Secondary IP schools (RI / Hwa Chong / NJC)
if happen to have one, perhaps u may check the content inside, see whether got print out any similar Promotional criteria.
Besides school diary, perhaps can also check if (RI / Hwa Chong / National JC) have any Secondary students' Instruction Manual, or something similar.
After checked both, if still don't have such info, then the last resort (no choice) is, to call up the school, request to speak to the Vice-Principal in charge (of Academic affairs), Not speak to the Vice-Principal in charge (of Administrative student affair), ask all those \"burning\" questions that you have, clear up your mind, so that u can choose the right, appropriate school, for your son. Do not be afraid to ask the VP questions. Just politely tell VP that, your son going to choose a Secondary school soon, and there are certain things u would like to know about the school. From there, carry on .. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941525\" time=\"1571209313\" user_id=\"35251:
Thank you so much for your advice!
hi littleprince,littleprince\" post_id=\"1941469\" time=\"1571198186\" user_id=\"19510:
Does anyone know what is the pre-requisite for the student to be able to study either Biology-Chemistry-Math-Econs or Chemistry-Physics-Math-Econs at year 5 at these schools such as RI, NJC, HCI? Having this information would be good for us to decide whether to select these schools for the S1 exercise, knowing that it is going to be very competitive there
for St Nick Secondary school, All students must buy a Secondary school \"diary\".
Inside this school diary, in the front few pages, diary printed out the Promotional criteria clearly, for each year, for both (OP and IP) stream
example
from end of Sec 1, what is the criteria to be promoted into Sec 2,
... etc
from end of Year 4 (IP), into Year 5 (Eunoia Junior College)
i am not sure, whether there is such a similar school diary for Secondary IP schools (RI / Hwa Chong / NJC)
if happen to have one, perhaps u may check the content inside, see whether got print out any similar Promotional criteria.
Besides school diary, perhaps can also check if (RI / Hwa Chong / National JC) have any Secondary students' Instruction Manual, or something similar.
After checked both, if still don't have such info, then the last resort (no choice) is, to call up the school, request to speak to the Vice-Principal in charge (of Academic affairs), Not speak to the Vice-Principal in charge (of Administrative student affair), ask all those \"burning\" questions that you have, clear up your mind, so that u can choose the right, appropriate school, for your son.
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newkeynesian\" post_id=\"1941522\" time=\"1571208713\" user_id=\"5441:
bluepencil, Some govt scholars go to Carnegie Mellon for comp engg or comp science, if they don't make the cut for MIT. Can also try Cornell, Texas@Austin, NYU.
Can read up on Georgia Institute of Technology.bluepencil\" post_id=\"1941459\" time=\"1571196872\" user_id=\"165241:
Hi
Just wondering, which are the common colleges the JC students go to in US to pursue computing?
I am not referring to stanford or caltech. like what other good colleges are there? not necessarily MIT.
Is there a thread for US colleges? tks!
Again, I agree with a parent here that it is better to pose this question elsewhere - Tertiary Education section. -
littleprince\" post_id=\"1941469\" time=\"1571198186\" user_id=\"19510:
I don't think there is pre-requisite to study BCME or PCME at Ri. I think it's the most common subject combi there. The recommended gpa to take 4 H2 subjects is 3.2(out of 4.0), but it's not compulsory to get gpa of 3.2 to take 4H2 subjects.
Does anyone know what is the pre-requisite for the student to be able to study either Biology-Chemistry-Math-Econs or Chemistry-Physics-Math-Econs at year 5 at these schools such as RI, NJC, HCI? Having this information would be good for us to decide whether to select these schools for the S1 exercise, knowing that it is going to be very competitive there -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941512\" time=\"1571206337\" user_id=\"35251:
By the way, the below article points out a little-known fact: 50 is not the passing mark for PSLE. So your friend’s son may actually pass and do “well” enough to go to N(T) stream.
hi sky,
have a friend whose kid P6 this year, faced learning difficulty, from a rich family.
This child had been failing all 4 subjects, since P1 to P6, in all (SA1, SA2) exam.
Although child faced learning difficulty, but MOE did not grant him exemption (Chinese).
So, he still took Standard Chinese PSLE paper (1 and 2) recently, on Monday (30 Sep 2019)
Ever advised parent to let child take Foundation Chinese, instead of Standard Chinese.
However, parent initially did consider, but in the end, dropped the idea.
6 years ago, back then in 2014 Primary 1, this child could have joined a local Primary school, dedicated to handle education for special need kids. (won't mention the name of the primary school, here)
i told parents that that good local special-need primary school, would benefit child, long term wise.
However, because this parent is a very senior key personnel working in a highly visible, high-powered organization, because of \"face\" issue, parent insisted that child go study in a GEP primary school, because parent is an alumni from a coveted GEP school, so enrolled child into GEP primary school.
Based on recent August 2019 P6 Prelim, child also failed all 4 subjects. Each subject, scored way below 50 / 100
parent think likely this child will fail 2019 PSLE.
As a result, parent think that likely, child be channelled into a \"local Secondary school, dedicated for students who failed PSLE\", via MOE S1 posting results.
However, parent don't want child to go into this local Secondary school, because of \"face\" issue.
Parents don't want relatives nor office colleagues, to know that child going to be posted there.
Due to learning difficulty, child not independent, the parents won't send child to overseas boarding school
question
from above sharing, since this child's rich parents can afford, is it better to
- homeschool him, or
- send child to a \"ACS / HCI / SJI\" International School, for secondary education ?
($ is not any issue to them, because parents are rich businessmen )
“In other words, the student will pass with these minimum marks: 20 in English and in Mathematics, 19 and below in Science and in Mother Tongue. Therefore, 50 was never the passing mark for each subject.”
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/voices/dampen-exam-angst-reveal-psle-pass-scores
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