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    * Eunoia JC (EJC)

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • floppyF Offline
      floppy
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"1941779\" time=\"1571296131\" user_id=\"17023:

      NotEducatedMan\" post_id=\"1941750\" time=\"1571290281\" user_id=\"98110:

      [quote=mindays post_id=1819117 time=1511756971 user_id=140018]EJC having a COP of 9 for both Science and Arts is worser than ACJC's 7 for Science and 8 for Arts, I doubt that the pioneer batch of EJC will do any better than that. Still, I must put my stand that RVHS is better than EJC and this is just my 2 cents opinion. It's difficult to compare as I reiterate again.

      https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=90046&start=10

      This chap suddenly no sound no shadow after last A-level results.
      But I think he/she just came back with 2 new but similar username.. haha!

      😆
      mindays?
      Think he/she came back with more than 5 new usernames... haha![/quote]Keep changing usernames... but writing style and propensity for hyperbolic statement are hard to change.

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        floppy\" post_id=\"1941807\" time=\"1571302354\" user_id=\"97579:

        erikaa123\" post_id=\"1941792\" time=\"1571299311\" user_id=\"181130:

        ...
        Even if many JAE kids dont choose but with available places, MOE will post them to Ejc.
        ...

        If you don't choose EJC as an option, you won't get posted there, even if there's a place available. It's not like P1 registration.

        True , thats what happened to merger JCs where many untaken places.
        But for a known JC like Ejc , do u think 9-11 pointers want to try for it as 1 of their choiced JC. Except for those opting Poly route.
        So Ejc 210 will be more or less taken up by JAE kids.

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          floppy\" post_id=\"1941807\" time=\"1571302354\" user_id=\"97579:

          [quote=erikaa123 post_id=1941792 time=1571299311 user_id=181130]...
          Even if many JAE kids dont choose but with available places, MOE will post them to Ejc.
          ...

          If you don't choose EJC as an option, you won't get posted there, even if there's a place available. It's not like P1 registration.

          True , thats what happened to merger JCs where many untaken places.
          But for a known JC like Ejc , do u think 9-11 pointers want to try for it as 1 of their choiced JC. Except for those opting Poly route.
          So Ejc 210 will be more or less taken up by JAE kids.[/quote]In 2017, EJC is NOT a known JC. It's a brand new JC, located in a holding site, with limited and outdated facilities. Oh, and the pioneer batch will never get to see / smell / touch the new campus. Yes, there may have been some fanfare related to its launch, but IIRC, most of it were jokes being made about its name. Therefore... no. It is unlikely that 9 to 11 pointers would choose it as 1 of their top choices in 2017 considering that the following established JC are available: ACJC, TJC, SAJC, AJC, CJC etc.

          Yet, surprisingly, EJC COP for 2017 is 9 / 9, which means they are at least attracting some of the NJC, NYJC, ACJC crowd - despite limited and outdated facilities, no track record, etc. That doesn't look 'natural' for a first year JC. While MOE probably would not want empty classrooms or idling teachers, I would not be surprised that for the first year, there could be some 'control' being exercised while the kinks are being ironed out - which would also be very typical of the civil service approach - try a bit, \"have some guinea pigs\", work out the differences, full steam ahead.

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          • phtthpP Offline
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            MyPillow\" post_id=\"1941756\" time=\"1571291443\" user_id=\"70594:


            Sometimes, retain may be better for students if their foundations are not strong - J2 will be difficult & intense as its A level year. Teachers should be a fair mix with experiences - moreover Ejc is IP sch, i m confident MOE send well mixed pool of educators there.

            not sure whether

            1) is it due to 3 feeder sch, 3 diff standards pouring in ejc ?

            2) IP subject content vs O level - which grp has been prep with better exam /A level foundations - how is the disparity in standards? - all these can be factors to impact on teachings by teachers ..

            It is indeed a \"worry\" factor if the retain % is high :?
            in Upper (Sec 3 and 4) IP, the crucial years of foundation built

            shouldn't these three IP schools HOD (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) have come together, synchronized in harmony what they want to teach (cover) inside their Upper Sec IP curriculum, so that when students come over into Year 5 EJC, everyone is on common ground ?

            is only those JAE (OP) students, that need to catch up with whatever had been taught before previously, in IP (Y3 and Y4), because that was what the JAE students had missed out, while they were busy preparing for GCE \"O\" level

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            • phtthpP Offline
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              doodbug\" post_id=\"1941775\" time=\"1571295598\" user_id=\"13281:

              My inference fail 🙂
              I've a good friend who is a teacher at EJC. He says no JC retains so many kids one. LOL.
              Some kids who didn't do well for Promos will be asked to drop one H2 to H1. Retaining is really last resort.
              your good friend still teaching at EJC ?

              whether true or not (about 129 students out of 529 2017 J1 students repeat) -
              i believe current 2019 (J1 and J2) students will verify the info, since they need to know too

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              • MyPillowM Offline
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                phtthp\" post_id=\"1941822\" time=\"1571304637\" user_id=\"35251:

                MyPillow\" post_id=\"1941756\" time=\"1571291443\" user_id=\"70594:


                Sometimes, retain may be better for students if their foundations are not strong - J2 will be difficult & intense as its A level year. Teachers should be a fair mix with experiences - moreover Ejc is IP sch, i m confident MOE send well mixed pool of educators there.

                not sure whether

                1) is it due to 3 feeder sch, 3 diff standards pouring in ejc ?

                2) IP subject content vs O level - which grp has been prep with better exam /A level foundations - how is the disparity in standards? - all these can be factors to impact on teachings by teachers ..

                It is indeed a \"worry\" factor if the retain % is high :?

                in Upper (Sec 3 and 4) IP, the crucial years of foundation built

                shouldn't these three IP schools HOD (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) have come together, synchronized in harmony what they want to teach (cover) inside their Upper Sec IP curriculum, so that when students come over into Year 5 EJC, everyone is on common ground ?

                is only those JAE (OP) students, that need to catch up with whatever had been taught before previously, in IP (Y3 and Y4), because that was what the JAE students had missed out, while they were busy preparing for GCE \"O\" level

                dunno lei ...If only there are info from parents sharings of both IP and OP kid yr 3/4 curriculum - then we know whether they learn almost same curriculum / depth or not- dun think moe let ip syllabus learn more , isn't this not balance for jae students then (?) and a lot of catch up or ended up more retainees across ip jc(s) ..

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                  "2017, EJC is NOT a known JC. It’s a brand new JC, located in a holding site, with limited and outdated facilities. Oh, and the pioneer batch will never get to see / smell / touch the new campus. Yes, there may have been some fanfare related to its launch, but IIRC, most of it were jokes being made about its name. Therefore… no. It is unlikely that 9 to 11 pointers would choose it as 1 of their top choices in 2017 considering that the following established JC are available: ACJC, TJC, SAJC, AJC, CJC etc.


                  Yet, surprisingly, EJC COP for 2017 is 9 / 9, which means they are at least attracting some of the NJC, NYJC, ACJC crowd - despite limited and outdated facilities, no track record, etc. That doesn’t look ‘natural’ for a first year JC. While MOE probably would not want empty classrooms or idling teachers, I would not be surprised that for the first year, there could be some ‘control’ being exercised while the kinks are being ironed out - which would also be very typical of the civil service approach - try a bit, "have some guinea pigs", work out the differences, full steam ahead."

                  I said "known JC" But its not equal to " well known" but many talks about this IP JC which attract below 10 pointers.
                  Not all kids choose schools based on location/facilities.

                  Yes 9-11 pointers may not choose Ejc as lst choice but among 6 options.
                  9-11 pointers choose est AJC,SAJC,CJC?
                  Nah…
                  While still have kids choose these JCs but a handful maybe.
                  2017 cop shows SAJC,CJC,AJC 11 or more.

                  Guinea pigs?
                  MOE would have reserved less than 210 places earlier n not wait till posting results.
                  Like RV and DHS, it reserved 90-100 as it knows its campus size etc…

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                    No JC will retain 100+ students. Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)

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                      jtoh\" post_id=\"1941842\" time=\"1571316844\" user_id=\"19505:

                      No JC will retain 100+ students.

                      Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)
                      Hi jtoh,

                      What u said above, is your own conclusion drawn, based on common sense.

                      All of us know that u also do not have any son nor daughter studying inside EJC or ever before, as your child already grown up, in university now. Yes, in ksp, although u are given counsellor status by Chief kiasu, but still you don't have any kid that has to do with EJC, this is a fact. Your daughter already graduated long time ago, from RI

                      Now, we need to verify the truth

                      Whoever that person is, in this forum, by first posting the original message that

                      \"129 out of 529 2017 JC1 candidates repeat JC1\" -

                      We all wish to verify, whether what this person posted, is true or not, because if u look back at the way this person posted and the way and the manner, he or she posted, the tone sounded so confident, as if had some insight info.

                      Reason?

                      Because

                      If what this person posted is false info indeed, then this piece of info released will put future ( parents and current 2019 P6 students who just sat for Psle) and who are going to exercise DSA exercise option next Monday 21 Oct, those who are given IP Integrated programme DSA offer from (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) to join Eunoia JC, minds at ease.

                      Then, the next logical question we want to pursue is, in the event the info is wrong,

                      why is this person so mean, malicious, hateful to EJC, purposely post wrong info in this EJC thread, to mislead public ?
                      What is his (her) intention behind in the first case, to purposely post wrong info ?

                      However, if is the other way round instead, if what the info posted above turn out to be true, then 2019 P6 parents and students going to exercise DSA option next Monday (21 Oct) for IP, will have a real cause for concern

                      Hence, jtoh,

                      appreciate if u can kindly please stand aside, do not intervene, because u are not in our position, as u do not have any kid going to choose EJC, thus u do not understand the state of our mind (2019 P6 parents mind) going to exercise DSA option next Monday, as some of us could be in dilemma now in decision making

                      And also, this is an Internal matter, to be settled by P6 (parents and students) from various primary schools all over Singapore who have been offered DSA CO / Waitlist from

                      (SNGS / SCGS / CHS)

                      Today is already Friday (18 Oct)

                      =====================

                      Let us verify the statement posted by above who claim about \"129 JC1 students repeat \"


                      Dear All 2019 (JC1 and JC2) current EJC students and parents from Eunoia Junior College, or anyone else who know the truth

                      Appreciate if someone amongst u, can bravely step forward, speak up boldly, confirm and clarify, clear the air, whether what that person posted above, the claim -

                      Is it true or false, based on All PMT (Parents Meet Teacher) sessions between u (parent) and Principal of EJC, or from your class Form Teacher or subject Tr, as well as all the briefing, given by Principal so far ?

                      If the figure (129) is indeed false, then what is the actual figure that the Principal had shared at briefing, for repeat students, so as to allay the fear of 2019 P6 parents, who will join EJC in coming future, in Year 2024 ?

                      Thank you very much, with gratitude and appreciation

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                        jtoh
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                        phtthp\" post_id=\"1941907\" time=\"1571369780\" user_id=\"35251:

                        jtoh\" post_id=\"1941842\" time=\"1571316844\" user_id=\"19505:

                        No JC will retain 100+ students.

                        Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)

                        Hi jtoh,

                        What u said above, is your own conclusion drawn, based on common sense.

                        All of us know that u also do not have any son nor daughter studying inside EJC or ever before, as your child already grown up, in university now. Yes, in ksp, although u are given counsellor status by Chief kiasu, but still you don't have any kid that has to do with EJC, this is a fact. Your daughter already graduated long time ago, from RI

                        Now, we need to verify the truth

                        Whoever that person is, in this forum, by first posting the original message that

                        \"129 out of 529 2017 JC1 candidates repeat JC1\" -

                        We all wish to verify, whether what this person posted, is true or not, because if u look back at the way this person posted and the way and the manner, he or she posted, the tone sounded so confident, as if had some insight info.

                        Reason?

                        Because

                        If what this person posted is false info indeed, then this piece of info released will put future ( parents and current 2019 P6 students who just sat for Psle) and who are going to exercise DSA exercise option next Monday 21 Oct, those who are given IP Integrated programme DSA offer from (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) to join Eunoia JC, minds at ease.

                        Then, the next logical question we want to pursue is, in the event the info is wrong,

                        why is this person so mean, malicious, hateful to EJC, purposely post wrong info in this EJC thread, to mislead public ?
                        What is his (her) intention behind in the first case, to purposely post wrong info ?

                        However, if is the other way round instead, if what the info posted above turn out to be true, then 2019 P6 parents and students going to exercise DSA option next Monday (21 Oct) for IP, will have a real cause for concern

                        Hence, jtoh,

                        appreciate if u can kindly please stand aside, do not intervene, because u are not in our position, as u do not have any kid going to choose EJC, thus u do not understand the state of our mind (2019 P6 parents mind) going to exercise DSA option next Monday, as some of us could be in dilemma now in decision making

                        And also, this is an Internal matter, to be settled by P6 (parents and students) from various primary schools all over Singapore who have been offered DSA CO / Waitlist from

                        (SNGS / SCGS / CHS)

                        Today is already Friday (18 Oct)

                        =====================

                        Let us verify the statement posted by above who claim about \"129 JC1 students repeat \"


                        Dear All 2019 (JC1 and JC2) current EJC students and parents from Eunoia Junior College,

                        Appreciate if someone amongst u, can bravely step forward, confirm and clarify, clear the air, whether what that person posted above, the claim -

                        Is it true or false, based on All PMT (Parents Meet Teacher) sessions between u (parent) and Principal of EJC, as well as all the briefing, given by Principal so far ?

                        If the figure (129) is indeed false, then what is the actual figure that the Principal had shared at briefing, for repeat students, so as to allay the fear of 2019 P6 parents, who will join EJC in coming future, in Year 2024 ?

                        Thank you very much, with gratitude and appreciation

                        I am merely stating my opinion that based on simple logistics and common sense, no JC will retain 100+ students. I think that most people would be able to see that logically, no JC would retain that number of students. But for those who aren't able to, nothing wrong with an injection of sensibility. While this is a public forum, we should exercise some discretion before posting or repeating comments which amount to scaremongering. If some choose to cast logic to the wind, then by all means call the school, as some are wont to do as witnessed by their frequent calls to many schools.

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