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      Poppyy
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      Hi guys, need advise over here.

      Background :
      - Indo maid working for 2mths
      - currently only fetching $88 per mth as compensation for off in lieu
      - salary of $550 will come in may

      Main core duty is do hsechores and to care for my 5 mth old baby which I’ve placed at my parents plc. Primary caregiver of my baby is my mum. I will fetch baby back to inlaw hse on every Fri, without my maid as my mil has another maid as well.

      Basically every weekend she can rest as there’s minimum work to be done. My parents stayed in a hdb 4 rm flat, no pets.
      Previously I was OK letting her sit and rest. But with the introduction of hp (which she requested and asked my mil maid to purchase on her behalf), she has been spending more time on the hp.

      So my problem is she rejected my proposal of giving her off day, as she know its easy money to sit and collect $22 every Sunday. How can I go about asking her to go for her off?

      Initial contract states no off as I thought I will be needing her help on weekend and I wanted to shield her from external influences. It’s no longer needed as she has expanded her social network through my mil maid.

      Another reason that she refused to go for off is no money - which she has spent on her hp and data card. She still has abit of SGD amounting to sgd80.

      I suggested going for off twice a month, which she has firmly rejected.

      My point is down the road she can complain to mom should I reject her request for off. But must I adhere to her and continue to pay her if she refused to go for off but not working?

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      • starlight1968sgS Offline
        starlight1968sg
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        Poppyy

        Do you need a maid in the first place? You have a primary caregiver for your baby. As for household chores, unless you are living in a big hse, else maybe can consider a part time helper etc.

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        • EstéemaE Offline
          Estéema
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          Poppyy\" post_id=\"1955698\" time=\"1577440329\" user_id=\"183163:

          Hi guys, need advise over here.
          Background :
          - Indo maid working for 2mths
          - currently only fetching $88 per mth as compensation for off in lieu
          - salary of $550 will come in may

          Main core duty is do hsechores and to care for my 5 mth old baby which I've placed at my parents plc. Primary caregiver of my baby is my mum. I will fetch baby back to inlaw hse on every Fri, without my maid as my mil has another maid as well.

          Basically every weekend she can rest as there's minimum work to be done. My parents stayed in a hdb 4 rm flat, no pets.
          Previously I was OK letting her sit and rest. But with the introduction of hp (which she requested and asked my mil maid to purchase on her behalf), she has been spending more time on the hp.

          So my problem is she rejected my proposal of giving her off day, as she know its easy money to sit and collect $22 every Sunday. How can I go about asking her to go for her off?

          Initial contract states no off as I thought I will be needing her help on weekend and I wanted to shield her from external influences. It's no longer needed as she has expanded her social network through my mil maid.

          Another reason that she refused to go for off is no money - which she has spent on her hp and data card. She still has abit of SGD amounting to sgd80.

          I suggested going for off twice a month, which she has firmly rejected.

          My point is down the road she can complain to mom should I reject her request for off. But must I adhere to her and continue to pay her if she refused to go for off but not working?
          1) If upon WP, u’ve engaged her at $550 & with every off-day, then there’s no reason why she shld hv any recourse to complain to MOM. She has to go for her regular off-days.

          2) If her employment contract specifies u’ve offered her $550 and will compensate her for 2-offdays at MOM’s rate, then those were yr agreement at the onset. It will be unreasonable for u to deny her & try to push her out to take the other 2-offdays bcoz she’s not doing her job & on hp most times. Then, instead of giving her ammunition tt u’ve renegade on original agreement, you might want to find ano new helper & State yr no use of hp during work hours & when she’s allowed to use her hp.

          3) You can also try reason with current helper on no use of hp during work hours etc. If she complies, good for both of u. If she doesn’t, u might consider the new helper route.

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            Poppyy
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            starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"1955707\" time=\"1577443288\" user_id=\"14025:

            Poppyy
            Do you need a maid in the first place? You have a primary caregiver for your baby. As for household chores, unless you are living in a big hse, else maybe can consider a part time helper etc.
            Yes I need a helper, she can offload my mum with hsechores.

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              Poppyy
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              Estéema\" post_id=\"1955716\" time=\"1577448829\" user_id=\"66413:

              Poppyy\" post_id=\"1955698\" time=\"1577440329\" user_id=\"183163:

              Hi guys, need advise over here.
              Background :
              - Indo maid working for 2mths
              - currently only fetching $88 per mth as compensation for off in lieu
              - salary of $550 will come in may

              Main core duty is do hsechores and to care for my 5 mth old baby which I've placed at my parents plc. Primary caregiver of my baby is my mum. I will fetch baby back to inlaw hse on every Fri, without my maid as my mil has another maid as well.

              Basically every weekend she can rest as there's minimum work to be done. My parents stayed in a hdb 4 rm flat, no pets.
              Previously I was OK letting her sit and rest. But with the introduction of hp (which she requested and asked my mil maid to purchase on her behalf), she has been spending more time on the hp.

              So my problem is she rejected my proposal of giving her off day, as she know its easy money to sit and collect $22 every Sunday. How can I go about asking her to go for her off?

              Initial contract states no off as I thought I will be needing her help on weekend and I wanted to shield her from external influences. It's no longer needed as she has expanded her social network through my mil maid.

              Another reason that she refused to go for off is no money - which she has spent on her hp and data card. She still has abit of SGD amounting to sgd80.

              I suggested going for off twice a month, which she has firmly rejected.

              My point is down the road she can complain to mom should I reject her request for off. But must I adhere to her and continue to pay her if she refused to go for off but not working?

              1) If upon WP, u’ve engaged her at $550 & with every off-day, then there’s no reason why she shld hv any recourse to complain to MOM. She has to go for her regular off-days.

              2) If her employment contract specifies u’ve offered her $550 and will compensate her for 2-offdays at MOM’s rate, then those were yr agreement at the onset. It will be unreasonable for u to deny her & try to push her out to take the other 2-offdays bcoz she’s not doing her job & on hp most times. Then, instead of giving her ammunition tt u’ve renegade on original agreement, you might want to find ano new helper & State yr no use of hp during work hours & when she’s allowed to use her hp.

              3) You can also try reason with current helper on no use of hp during work hours etc. If she complies, good for both of u. If she doesn’t, u might consider the new helper route.


              I see, my original contract with her for 2 years is no off. But my agent was telling me its possible to tweak it along the way, as its impossible for her not to go out totally for 2 years.
              Her reason for not wanting to go for off is 'sayang' the money. So right now I feel she's abusing the system, she know she can do nothing and continue to get paid. - _-

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              • EstéemaE Offline
                Estéema
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                No. What do u mean by abuse the system? She cannot abuse the system. Her WP approval letter states $550 with no off-day, then she gets only $550. If u kindly allow her to go for off-days thereafter (whether on ur own accord or uvtske agent’s advice) she still gets $550.


                However, if on the reverse, AIP letter states $550 with every week off-days, then u wants her to stay at home to help out, then u hv to pay each Sunday in accordance to the day-rate stated on MOM’s AIP letter. You can back-track & let her go on her off-days w/o further compensation if she does not do the work on Sundays as expected as yr original contract still applies.

                Think u might hv confused the entire process of what u can or cannot do. Just go back to basic.

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                  Poppyy
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                  Estéema\" post_id=\"1955772\" time=\"1577469067\" user_id=\"66413:

                  No. What do u mean by abuse the system? She cannot abuse the system. Her WP approval letter states $550 with no off-day, then she gets only $550. If u kindly allow her to go for off-days thereafter (whether on ur own accord or uvtske agent’s advice) she still gets $550.

                  However, if on the reverse, AIP letter states $550 with every week off-days, then u wants her to stay at home to help out, then u hv to pay each Sunday in accordance to the day-rate stated on MOM’s AIP letter. You can back-track & let her go on her off-days w/o further compensation if she does not do the work on Sundays as expected as yr original contract still applies.

                  Think u might hv confused the entire process of what u can or cannot do. Just go back to basic.
                  Hi esteema, May I know what's aip letter?
                  I'm paying her $550 as base salary and additional $22 for every working Sunday. So which is $550 and $88 (4 sunday in a mth), which adds up to $638.

                  Its my first time getting a maid so I'm nt so familiar with all these stuffs :roll:

                  Thank u

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
                    Estéema
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                    When u complete the WP application, did u indicate the number of off-days? If u had, then the additional $22 may not be necessary for example when u indicate every Sunday off-days. However, if u for indicate no offdays, then $22 applies.


                    If u had indicated every Sunday as offdays, then u need to pay her additional $22 as per AIP Letter given u breakdown how her per day computation comes about. If u did indicated no offdays, then u DO NOT need to pay her any offdays, as the salary is inclusive of offdays asa whole. Paying her offday per Sunday is double paying her as u alr indicated salary of $550 & offdays. I know it’s abit confusing. Try writing the 2 scenario abv out on a piece of paper & I think I shld u’stand better.

                    AIP Letter - Approval-In-Principle Letter

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                      Poppyy
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                      Estéema\" post_id=\"1955777\" time=\"1577484227\" user_id=\"66413:

                      When u complete the WP application, did u indicate the number of off-days? If u had, then the additional $22 may not be necessary for example when u indicate every Sunday off-days. However, if u for indicate no offdays, then $22 applies.

                      If u had indicated every Sunday as offdays, then u need to pay her additional $22 as per AIP Letter given u breakdown how her per day computation comes about. If u did indicated no offdays, then u DO NOT need to pay her any offdays, as the salary is inclusive of offdays asa whole. Paying her offday per Sunday is double paying her as u alr indicated salary of $550 & offdays. I know it’s abit confusing. Try writing the 2 scenario abv out on a piece of paper & I think I shld u’stand better.

                      AIP Letter - Approval-In-Principle Letter
                      Hi esteema,

                      Thank u for taking time to reply. Its indeed very chim for a newbie like me. - _-'
                      For my case I indicated to agent that no off for my maid and agent told me I will have to pay her extra $22 for each Sunday that she works for me.
                      So right now since I don't need her help on Sunday, I would like to give her off but maid do not want it.

                      I think I better go take out her contract to read. I'm nt so sure about her WP application since it's all done by agent. I don't rem seeing any AIP letter as well. Gosh.

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                      • starlight1968sgS Offline
                        starlight1968sg
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                        It is not that likely to hv no off days per month, right?

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