2010 DSA(Direct School Admission)

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

that is simply twisting the MOE processes


and depriving another student who might have gotten an offer from NUSHS from the DSA if not for this girl

theoretically possible to \"transfer\", ethically we are teaching the wrong value in not honouring the commitment made when accepting the NUSHS offer

I think not many parents would say such things so bluntly as above, as when things are concerning their own children, if need to twist something, would still do it ........

I agree with you that it is not right morally to 'chope' the place and deprive another child. I personally would not do it. But this has been discussed extensively in the past and it's no secret that many do it.

[MdmKS]

[quote]Hi,


I agree with you that it is not right morally to 'chope' the place and deprive another child. I personally would not do it. But this has been discussed extensively in the past and it's no secret that many do it.[/quote]That is why some students receive offer in early january and that leave with them untouch new school uniform and text book sthey have purchased with the first school they got from Central posting. Not fair for them right? May be the twisting parents need absolute those stuff...

[verykiasu2010]

if everyone honours their commitment made after exercising their choices, then it should not give rise to situation of schools making offers still in January - that is a result of many appeals and transfers by parents, giving rise to subsequent vacancies to be offered to the die hard fans of the schools

[Pen88n]

verykiasu2010:

that is simply twisting the MOE processes


and depriving another student who might have gotten an offer from NUSHS from the DSA if not for this girl

theoretically possible to \"transfer\", ethically we are teaching the wrong value in not honouring the commitment made when accepting the NUSHS offer

I think not many parents would say such things so bluntly as above, as when things are concerning their own children, if need to twist something, would still do it ........

Ya, when it concerns your child, you would feel it and maybe do it.....I'm not suggesting all parents do that, but I'm sure majority will consider to do so. Let me share with you the story I've heard from a fren.

Fren had DS in mainstream with pretty good results and good in Maths, winning some Maths Olympiad. Child's dream is to go RI. Given RI has limited space left in DSA phase for mainstreamers after the Gepper and sports talent, her DS did not manage to get a place but end up with a place in NUSH. He accepted offer, as it was the only offer he had and he wanted to be assured of a place in case of PSLE uncertainty.

Result came out and he did very well (score 276). At this stage, her DS was of course able to make the mark for RI. Given this opportunity, it was only normal that the parent and child will go thru' the appeal process to get in to his dream school.

DSA is full of \"loop-holes\" and there are many cases of children \"choping\" more than 1 place (I heard of many Geppers having more than 1 offer), or children \"choping\" place and later appeal, resulting in someone else losing the opportunity. But if you look thru' the whole DSA system, it still boils down to 1 basic rule: Fittest survive. If your child is better than others (in academic or sports or ...), the child will have the better opportunity.

[jtoh]

If schools do not entertain appeals and transfers, that would put a stop to the ‘choping’ syndrom. But parents being as kiasu as they are will probably come up with alternative loopholes.

[verykiasu2010]

Pen88n:

Ya, when it concerns your child, you would feel it and maybe do it.....I'm not suggesting all parents do that, but I'm sure majority will consider to do so. Let me share with you the story I've heard from a fren.


Fren had DS in mainstream with pretty good results and good in Maths, winning some Maths Olympiad. Child's dream is to go RI. Given RI has limited space left in DSA phase for mainstreamers after the Gepper and sports talent, her DS did not manage to get a place but end up with a place in NUSH. He accepted offer, as it was the only offer he had and he wanted to be assured of a place in case of PSLE uncertainty.

Result came out and he did very well (score 276). At this stage, her DS was of course able to make the mark for RI. Given this opportunity, it was only normal that the parent and child will go thru' the appeal process to get in to his dream school.

DSA is full of \"loop-holes\" and there are many cases of children \"choping\" more than 1 place (I heard of many Geppers having more than 1 offer), or children \"choping\" place and later appeal, resulting in someone else losing the opportunity. But if you look thru' the whole DSA system, it still boils down to 1 basic rule: Fittest survive. If your child is better than others (in academic or sports or ...), the child will have the better opportunity.

how to 'chope' more than one place when the exercise option form has to list down 1st, 2nd choice etc etc, and this is processed by MOE computer system ?

[Pen88n]

verykiasu2010:

how to 'chope' more than one place when the exercise option form has to list down 1st, 2nd choice etc etc, and this is processed by MOE computer system ?

I don't mean \"chope\" in the exercise optiion time. It is more like by applying for DSA with a few schools and getting offer from a fewe schools, it deprive others of an offer as school usually restrict the number of offers they give out.

[verykiasu2010]

for that reason, the school encourages the student to put their first choice even if that is on waiting list


applying to a few schools is not really ‘choping’ unless one is sure to get it by that single application

even if there are several offers by various schools and the choice is duly exercised with care and DO NOT twist and turn after the PSLE result is out, MOE should still be able to sort out the allocation by the time S1 posting result is out.

[traineeks]

jtoh:

If schools do not entertain appeals and transfers, that would put a stop to the 'choping' syndrom. But parents being as kiasu as they are will probably come up with alternative loopholes.

I agree that the schools have a major part to play by allowing the transfers to take place. Parents' natural instinct is to find the best for their kids. But the top schools also has no hesitation when it comes to grabbing the best students despite knowing the MOE ruling and that the applicant has already accepted a DSA offer . Some actually reserve a number of places for such appeal process.

I know a mainstream girl who accepted NJC's dsa offer. Her PSLE results turn out to be 276. Appealed to RGS. They took her in and placed her in class with GEP students.

[verykiasu2010]

traineeks:

jtoh:

If schools do not entertain appeals and transfers, that would put a stop to the 'choping' syndrom. But parents being as kiasu as they are will probably come up with alternative loopholes.

I agree that the schools have a major part to play by allowing the transfers to take place. Parents' natural instinct is to find the best for their kids. But the top schools also has no hesitation when it comes to grabbing the best students despite knowing the MOE ruling and that the applicant has already accepted a DSA offer . Some actually reserve a number of places for such appeal process.

I know a mainstream girl who accepted NJC's dsa offer. Her PSLE results turn out to be 276. Appealed to RGS. They took her in and placed her in class with GEP students.

well, rules are meant to be broken, promises are not meant to be kept, nothing last forever, and i just 'lost' my innocence .....