Tuition centers should not force parents to accept digital learning at full fees.
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1968954\" time=\"1585384570\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968954 time=1585384570 user_id=53606]
He practices regularly anyway. Even in those weeks we skipped in-person lessons (Eg. when he was sick, busy with school exams, teacher on holiday), he still continues practising his scales and arpeggios, old pieces and new pieces. What he cannot do on his own is to learn a totally new piece himself. This needs the teacher to demonstrate & go thru with him the important points first.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1968949\" time=\"1585383693\" user_id=\"145858:
How do you keep your child continue practising without lessons? Even without exam, the finger muscle will loss memory through time, without keeping up w practice.[/quote][quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968946 time=1585382144 user_id=53606]
Not for violin.
As it is, I regularly send videos to the violin teacher via WhatsApp, upon her request, so that she can check on kid’s progress during the week whenever he practices.
There are difficulties in the feedback & absorption/learning process via video.
She cannot observe all the angles correctly (neither can I keep moving around while filming for her to check LH fingering, check leg stance, check RH bow grip, zoom in to check vibrato etc etc). Sound quality is also an issue when recording/transmitting via phone. “Live” transmission would be worse cos dependent on WiFi speed.
We are fine even if exams are cancelled. Teacher doesn’t only teach him exam pieces. We do plenty of other pieces and also special requests like Chinese pop songs etc.[/quote]Yes. Agree. But to do everything the same for 5 weeks or more, will be challenging, no? -
Ok I am back here to write my reviews.
For the pre-recorded lesson, still ok, but the lag is quite bad. Wonder if their ‘live’ lesson next week will be ok? Quite frequent ‘screen freeze’ encountered.
For another ‘live’ lesson, due to some technical glitch, cannot access the lesson. Took me an hour to finally able to call in, and another half an hour to resolve the log in access problem.
So maybe for the first lesson, parent better be around to stand by to resolve technical problems. -
Ok here comes more reviews from my frens whose kids are in lower primary. Just attended the online lesson today. Two different centres, one English one chinese.
Common problem:
20 plus people log in. Some got dropped off and got to wait for them to get reconnected. Teacher could not ‘see’ the student on screen due to technical problem. Teacher did not see them ‘raise hand via button’. Children claim that it is hard to concentrate, so in the end, parents sat through the lesson with them and etc. Oops… -
6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1968956\" time=\"1585387130\" user_id=\"145858:
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1968954\" time=\"1585384570\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968954 time=1585384570 user_id=53606]
Yes. Agree. But to do everything the same for 5 weeks or more, will be challenging, no?Which is why I will defer the lessons until we can makeup later on. Seriously, during this period I can afford to take it slower with regards to violin practice. So he doesn’t practice as often as before, so what? It’s not the end of the world for anybody.
After all, we will be super crazy busy with all these various tuition e-learning sessions + school HBL!!!
Plus I still have to work from home, I need peace & quiet to work. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1968962\" time=\"1585390232\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968962 time=1585390232 user_id=53606]
Which is why I will defer the lessons until we can makeup later on. Seriously, during this period I can afford to take it slower with regards to violin practice. So he doesn’t practice as often as before, so what? It’s not the end of the world for anybody.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1968956\" time=\"1585387130\" user_id=\"145858:
Yes. Agree. But to do everything the same for 5 weeks or more, will be challenging, no?[/quote][quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968954 time=1585384570 user_id=53606]
He practices regularly anyway. Even in those weeks we skipped in-person lessons (Eg. when he was sick, busy with school exams, teacher on holiday), he still continues practising his scales and arpeggios, old pieces and new pieces. What he cannot do on his own is to learn a totally new piece himself. This needs the teacher to demonstrate & go thru with him the important points first.
We are fine even if exams are cancelled. Teacher doesn’t only teach him exam pieces. We do plenty of other pieces and also special requests like Chinese pop songs etc.
After all, we will be super crazy busy with all these various tuition e-learning sessions + school HBL!!!
Plus I still have to work from home, I need peace & quiet to work.[/quote]Not questioning, just finding out more for personal reason. How to motivate kid without lessons n exam. -
If your kids are at higher grade for piano, they can download popular songs or simpler music scores to play for fun. Sight-reading for them should be manageable, especially if they come with audio clip demo for them to listen to.
Or they can play duets to make things more interesting.
Personally I would let my kid use the music instrument playtime as an outlet for de-stressing during this shut-in period. He doesn’t really need external push regarding violin. We listen to other players on YouTube for leisure too. -
FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1968961\" time=\"1585389681\" user_id=\"105816:
We just completed our first online live tuition class. Took us some time to figure out how to log in but fortunately were in time for class. For the younger kids, will need parents to support.
Ok here comes more reviews from my frens whose kids are in lower primary. Just attended the online lesson today. Two different centres, one English one chinese.
Common problem:
20 plus people log in. Some got dropped off and got to wait for them to get reconnected. Teacher could not ‘see’ the student on screen due to technical problem. Teacher did not see them ‘raise hand via button’. Children claim that it is hard to concentrate, so in the end, parents sat through the lesson with them and etc. Oops...
Perhaps too many students log on at the same time, there were intermittent pauses. But this was only during the first half hour of class.
But strangely the class size was smaller than the usual. Perhaps they opted for other timing during this period.
This being a three hour class, my girl started to lose focus after some time. Had to remind her to focus.
Overall, am ok with the arrangement. Will continue with it for the time being... -
I would like to share my experience with chenlaoshi’s response to the sudden shock ruling in this past week (in fact less than a week). Although he is not a big tuition centre but he runs group classes.
Like everyone, I’m sure he was taken by surprise at the sudden forced closure. Yet he took the time to pause, think very carefully how to solve this problem. He spent the time to explore all various types of platforms before he decided on which one would be the most effective. He kept us parents updated via WhatsApp each step of the way.
He did not rush in to implement any changes. First he assured us that any e-lessons would be free of charge for these 5 weeks shutdown, which is nobody’s fault. For us to trial out and get used to the system first.
Next, he decided to start off with a Pre-recorded video for the missed lesson, log in at own time own target. He even did a how-to video guide in English for us parents to understand how to join the Google Classroom, how to submit homework etc. Then in the lesson video he assured the kids themselves that they could pause at any time if they need to review or finish copying down notes.
Next week will be the first “live” session via Zoom. Again he sends us detailed instructions on how to set it up. With the option to WhatsApp him for any queries.
To me, that should be the gold standard for how to transit to new technology platform. Parents definitely have to assist the kids with setting all this up, including sitting beside them to remind them pay attention etc. How can those tuition centers expect buy-in from parents when they can’t provide proper how-to guide or support?? Add the stress of joining a “live” PAID lesson (no option to refund/defer) at the non-regular timing (no option to select another timing)…makes the parents go nuts with anger and don’t need to wonder why. -
FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1968959\" time=\"1585388359\" user_id=\"105816:
Hi FLD,
Ok I am back here to write my reviews.
For the pre-recorded lesson, still ok, but the lag is quite bad. Wonder if their ‘live’ lesson next week will be ok? Quite frequent ‘screen freeze’ encountered.
For another ‘live’ lesson, due to some technical glitch, cannot access the lesson. Took me an hour to finally able to call in, and another half an hour to resolve the log in access problem.
So maybe for the first lesson, parent better be around to stand by to resolve technical problems.
Appreciate your above sharing.
May we know, for the Sec 1 online Chinese tuition centre which your child just attended,
1) if the original face-face classroom lesson is 2 Hr session duration initially, is this online lesson still 2 hour duration, or they started to cut \"meat\" (content) here & there, just because it went online, eventually end up only 1 hour lesson duration, kind of feel cheated ?
2) for the component like
Chinese comprehension (li jie wen da) or component zuowen, did u observe any difference in the way being conducted online vs. Classroom face-to-face teaching ?
3) did the tuition centre remove the
Tingxie / moxie section, now that it went online ?
4) any other differences u notice, besides the slowness or technical glitch login encountered ?
Thank you, for your kind sharing -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1968981\" time=\"1585397186\" user_id=\"35251:
My answers below.
Hi FLD,FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1968959\" time=\"1585388359\" user_id=\"105816:
Ok I am back here to write my reviews.
For the pre-recorded lesson, still ok, but the lag is quite bad. Wonder if their ‘live’ lesson next week will be ok? Quite frequent ‘screen freeze’ encountered.
For another ‘live’ lesson, due to some technical glitch, cannot access the lesson. Took me an hour to finally able to call in, and another half an hour to resolve the log in access problem.
So maybe for the first lesson, parent better be around to stand by to resolve technical problems.
Appreciate your above sharing.
May we know, for the Sec 1 online Chinese tuition centre which your child just attended,
1) if the original face-face classroom lesson is 2 Hr session duration initially, is this online lesson still 2 hour duration, or they started to cut \"meat\" (content) here & there, just because it went online, eventually end up only 1 hour lesson duration, kind of feel cheated ?
2) for the component like
Chinese comprehension (li jie wen da) or component zuowen, did u observe any difference in the way being conducted online vs. Classroom face-to-face teaching ?
3) did the tuition centre remove the
Tingxie / moxie section, now that it went online ?
4) any other differences u notice, besides the slowness or technical glitch login encountered ?
Thank you, for your kind sharing
Note:
This week’s lesson is pre-recorded, meaning not ‘live’ lesson where teacher is online for you to ask questions. Pre-recorded video kinds of feel like a ‘moving powerpoint’ to me.
1. Total duration of video is about 35min. I won’t say I feel cheated, as whole set of notes is covered in the video. Also, as they typically give the children an hour to write the zuowen during face to face class, so to me the 35min video is reasonable, can’t expect them to give you a full 2 hour video hence. The only downside is perhaps we cannot ask question for this week. Hope they are better next week when they do ‘online live’ lesson.
2. No chinese comprehension this week as you know they do it on alternate week basis roughly. This week is on Qing Jing zuowen, which they read out from notes ( in the video) explaining how to write that zuowen.
3. Ting Xie / mo Xie is still there. After you write out your answer, you ‘click’ for the answer in the video.
4. My dd feedback that the speed of reading out the zuowen notes is faster than her teacher, so must really focus and concentrate. Same comments from my frens with lower primary kids too although they are at another chinese tuition centre.
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