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    Tuition centers should not force parents to accept digital learning at full fees.

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    • T Offline
      tryyourbest.0243672
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      Some tuition centres claimed that they still need to pay rent to landlord so they still need to charge parents at 100% for e-tutoring. No discount at all. This is ridiculous.

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        EarthQuek
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        tryyourbest.2\" post_id=\"1970195\" time=\"1586176679\" user_id=\"184963:

        Some tuition centres claimed that they still need to pay rent to landlord so they still need to charge parents at 100% for e-tutoring.
        Those who can adapt to the changes will survive. With the fierce competition, those who can't will be eliminated.
        Consumers are quick to find the best deal with feedback from social platforms.
        :moneyflies: :moneyflies: :moneyflies: :moneyflies:

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        • Lenny08L Offline
          Lenny08
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          Beside tuition centre, private tutors are also using online platform.


          can someone please share are the fees still the same or there is a discount? thanks

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            NoToStalf
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            Hi,


            Anyone with similar experience to share on Stalford Learning Ctr? They do not offer discount/rebates. They've combined 2 x P6 classes (~ 60 students) and conduct the lessons (~2 hrs) online via Zoom. :rant:

            The centre is chasing us for May payment.

            https://www.stalford.edu.sg/

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
              last edited by

              Lenny08\" post_id=\"1970705\" time=\"1586511194\" user_id=\"41864:

              Beside tuition centre, private tutors are also using online platform.

              can someone please share are the fees still the same or there is a discount? thanks
              No standardized rule implemented within the tuition industry, so far.

              1)
              Some tuition centre(s) do give discount to students for \"online\" lessons, while others do not, that is, remain at fixed price. Hence, best to inquire first, before sign-up for any tuition centre.

              2)
              For individual private tutors,
              normally tend to remain at fixed price, regardless of whether online or \"face-to-face\"

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
                zac's mum
                last edited by

                NoToStalf\" post_id=\"1973478\" time=\"1588302009\" user_id=\"185300:

                Hi,

                Anyone with similar experience to share on Stalford Learning Ctr? They do not offer discount/rebates. They've combined 2 x P6 classes (~ 60 students) and conduct the lessons (~2 hrs) online via Zoom. :rant:

                The centre is chasing us for May payment.

                https://www.stalford.edu.sg/
                Did they say why they combined the 2 classes? Was it because one tutor quit?

                ~60 students in a Zoom class is NOT conducive at all. If u notice in Zoom, if the hosts displays their computer screen to show PowerPoint or tablet scribblings, then effectively the tutor can only see max 4-5 kids’ faces at a time? Cannot see the rest of the class, how to gauge their attention? In Zoom, basically if the participant does not “talk” at all, the face of the participant is not even visible at the front screen of the host or any other participant.

                What tutors would usually do for big classes is just present a one-way lecture. And then allocate 5 minutes for Q&A (if they even bother). If that’s what’s happening to your P6 class then not much difference from watching video right.

                Depends on what you expect to get out of the P6 lessons. It’s quite hard to switch to another centre at this “late” stage so close to PSLE. But if your money hasn’t been worth it for the online lessons then why continue.

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                  NoToStalf
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                  tryyourbest.2\" post_id=\"1970195\" time=\"1586176679\" user_id=\"184963:

                  Some tuition centres claimed that they still need to pay rent to landlord so they still need to charge parents at 100% for e-tutoring. No discount at all. This is ridiculous.
                  Mandated to pass rebates from landlords to tenants already. No more excuses.

                  https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/landlords-must-pass-on-rebates-to-tenants-in-timely-manner

                  https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/News-and-Events/Newsroom/Media-Releases-and-Speeches/Media-Releases/2020/COVID-19-Relief-Measures--Upcoming-Legislative-Provisions-To-Impose-Obligation-on-Property-Owners-To-Pass-On-The-Property-Tax-Rebate-In-Full-To-Tenants/

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                    NoToStalf
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                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"1973489\" time=\"1588305721\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1973489 time=1588305721 user_id=53606]
                    NoToStalf\" post_id=\"1973478\" time=\"1588302009\" user_id=\"185300:
                    Hi,

                    Anyone with similar experience to share on Stalford Learning Ctr? They do not offer discount/rebates. They've combined 2 x P6 classes (~ 60 students) and conduct the lessons (~2 hrs) online via Zoom. :rant:

                    The centre is chasing us for May payment.

                    https://www.stalford.edu.sg/
                    Did they say why they combined the 2 classes? Was it because one tutor quit? ~60 students in a Zoom class is NOT conducive at all. If u notice in Zoom, if the hosts displays their computer screen to show PowerPoint or tablet scribblings, then effectively the tutor can only see max 4-5 kids’ faces at a time? Cannot see the rest of the class, how to gauge their attention? In Zoom, basically if the participant does not “talk” at all, the face of the participant is not even visible at the front screen of the host or any other participant. [/quote]
                    No teacher quit. They combined 2 centres, Waterway point & Tiong Bahru Plaza for Zoom. Initially, 60 over students but reduce to about 30 now per zoom session.

                    You are absolutely right. We're ok with the teacher though but just felt the centre could have done more to help parents.

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                      .010675zeit
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                      NoToStalf\" post_id=\"1973478\" time=\"1588302009\" user_id=\"185300:

                      Hi,

                      Anyone with similar experience to share on Stalford Learning Ctr? They do not offer discount/rebates. They've combined 2 x P6 classes (~ 60 students) and conduct the lessons (~2 hrs) online via Zoom. :rant:

                      The centre is chasing us for May payment.

                      https://www.stalford.edu.sg/
                      They should not combine because it's not fair to the customer. The tutor was hired by Stalford to conduct 2 X 30-pupil class, and the paying consumers understood at point of transaction that attention on their child will be split among 30 pupils, not 60 pupils.

                      So by hook or by crook, this tutor must provide 2 X services. Indeed, it is tiring to host 2 runs on Zoom (using digital pen/toggle back and forth worksheet and replying to msgs), but you know what, that's what other tuition centres have been doing, including hosting back-to-back 2-hr Zoom sessions the entire Saturday or Sunday, with each session having its own secured unique Meeting ID and password.

                      Ethical tuition centres do not provide a playback of recording of the earliest class of that day/week, but their tutors must duly repeat the same contents and reteach real-time for the number of times she/he's been hired for.

                      Ideally, there must be a video clip to be shared with parents post-class, so that they know it is not an audio recording, but an actual live one with their child asking questions/tutor answering questions in that Zoom or whatever platform video recording.

                      You've been shortchanged by Stalford.

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