Child's Position in P1 Class

[csc]

[quote]All information given is really subject to individual's interpretation. Giving more information is never an issue unless the ones interpreting want to make it an issue. And because of that, many schools actually practise not giving any ranking at lower levels, class or standard, in report book.[/quote]
I feel that ranking at the lower levels are not necessary and parents are more 'kiasu' when the kids are at the lower levels (speaking for myself) so definitely will make it a big issue lor.

[Pen88n]

Constant improvement in the kid is more impt than the grading of the kid at that stage. If parents put in the effort to analyse the kid and the kid’s grade, they will realise if it is due to gap (not understanding) or just pure carelessness. Preants also need to be realistic and really know the "potential" of your kid. This will really show in long term when kid reaches upper pri and sec. When parents are hands-on and really "teach" or "coach" your kids, you will know each of your kid’s potential. I believe in maximising the kid’s potential, but I do not believe in putting undue stress on the kid to perform way beyond his potential.

[radiantmum]

My DS school shows both class and cohort position.


I am happy to have that as it gives me a guage of my kid’s relative standing.

In my view, nothing wrong with the school showing rankings. Kiasu parents will still be able to go all out to compile it one way or another. Knowing is not a problem, not applying that knowledge in the right way is THE problem.

[HyperKiasu]

not only showing position at class & cohort, my kid’s sch also report mean/highest/percentile band for each subject.


i think it is a good practice. my ds’s CL 94/100. initially i thought it is not too bad but when i know 94 is below the top 20%, i realized i need to do something with his CL…

[corneyAmber]

HyperKiasu:

not only showing position at class & cohort, my kid's sch also report mean/highest/percentile band for each subject.


i think it is a good practice. my ds's CL 94/100. initially i thought it is not too bad but when i know 94 is below the top 20%, i realized i need to do something with his CL......

Just curious, is your school an elite or neighbourhood school if you don't mind sharing?

[corneyAmber]

Actually I have this wild dream in my mind if the school can customise this to parent’s requirement based on the day we register with the school as a value-add service.


Parents who want to know will have it reported on the report book, in any case, these days, most report book results are printed so this can be catered by the computer program.

Parents who do not wish to know will have it not reported in the report book.

In that case, the onus is on the parents to decide how best to interpret the results or not to interpret anything. The school can state that if the information is misused, they reserve the right to revoke access.

Why must we try to be homogenous in everything where there is no need to be homogenous, especially with technological advancement? Just my 2 cts la.

[Pen88n]

HyperKiasu:

not only showing position at class & cohort, my kid's sch also report mean/highest/percentile band for each subject.


i think it is a good practice. my ds's CL 94/100. initially i thought it is not too bad but when i know 94 is below the top 20%, i realized i need to do something with his CL......

Have you analyse why 94/100? Is it due to carelessness / something he didn't remember though taught / really something he don't know? Knowing this will enable you to take the right action, and not be like some other parents, jump straight into giving kid tuition.

I've a fren whose kid was getting ave ~90 at P1, and of course intiially she worried about it but she analysed and realised her son was just plain careless, not that he has \"gaps\" in knowledge. Now he's in upper primary, and he's still getting ave ~90. That's good results considering his sch exams are not that easy and he is now amongst the top in his cohort.

[xxjustakidxx]

I used to be last. Then I jumped to 1st. So it doesn’t represent anything, really.

[HyperKiasu]

Pen88n:

Have you analyse why 94/100? Is it due to carelessness / something he didn't remember though taught / really something he don't know? Knowing this will enable you to take the right action, and not be like some other parents, jump straight into giving kid tuition.


I've a fren whose kid was getting ave ~90 at P1, and of course intiially she worried about it but she analysed and realised her son was just plain careless, not that he has \"gaps\" in knowledge. Now he's in upper primary, and he's still getting ave ~90. That's good results considering his sch exams are not that easy and he is now amongst the top in his cohort.

the problem is currently he is 吃老本....
prior to pri, his pre-sch teacher commented his CL was much stronger than his EL. so for T1 & T2, I emphasized much on his EL and thus his EL score quite top in cohort.
And it is not surprised to see his CL drop to below 20% becoz he almost nver read/practices Chinese until the morning before exam .....
report book shows percentil band 2 for his CL. but the COP for HCL (starting from T3) is 90, a bit relief for me.....

the lesson i learned is that: no matter how weak you are, you can still excel it if you work hard... no matter how strong you are, you will underperform if you are complacent....

[HyperKiasu]

ksi:

Just curious, is your school an elite or neighbourhood school if you don't mind sharing?

of coz dun mind sharing.
it is an elite neighbourhood school....