Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2020/2021

[Newjoiner2020]

But My choice is between LKC and UCL/ICL medicine, any views? Thank you all to share views.

[Chenies]

PaPaK\" post_id=\"1976187\" time=\"1589609197\" user_id=\"180862:

I think for most the choice is clear - go overseas than studying medicine in Singapore. NUS over NTU for wider network and stronger establishment

I beg to differ. Apart from the really prestigious UK or US universities, i think the local medical schools are established enough and well known for the tough selection criteria to be able to call our own when it comes to comparisons. This i say based on personal and friends' experiences.

Although my friend who has 3 children with medical degrees fr UK says that seeking to choose your preferred field of speciality is much easier there. Obviously NUS has too much good competition:)

[tiredmama]

Newjoiner2020\" post_id=\"1976190\" time=\"1589611030\" user_id=\"185429:

But My choice is between LKC and UCL/ICL medicine, any views? Thank you all to share views.

I would choose ICL . comparing that to LKC , it is e originating program and your child actually grad with imperial degree rather than a tie up.
Opportunities will be different , overall holistic education , significantly more research opp , and London your child will be exposed to a large range of diseases and illnesses. Granted they may not be as high tech or advanced or organised as in singapore , but to have a chance and can afford To study in ICL.
Go for it !
Ucl - is also good , highly ranked not only med but I Guess imperial med would also attract more SG in general . So maybe a larger Asian community?
Covid risk will be there , so depends on how comfortable you feel to let your child go ahead . Or u can always stay back and enjoy reduced covid risk .
And also consider what your child wants at end of e day ! But great choices you have there ! Congrats ! But I would have recommended him / her to take ICL

[PaPaK]

Absolutely. Why choose a tie-up than the actual degree? And, LKC is way too young plus the risk of ICL withdrawing from the tie-up, like MIT from Duke. Then they’ll say that we still have close collaborations…ya, sure.

[ScissorPaperStone]

TurtleSoup\" post_id=\"1976095\" time=\"1589549281\" user_id=\"185378:

Kiwi3\" post_id=\"1976081\" time=\"1589546501\" user_id=\"104354:

Selecting Cambridge over LKC is a no-brainer decision.

you will cry when they move all lessons online...and u wonder what am I paying for?

Online lessons are only temporary measure. I will choose Cambridge if I have a choice.

[ScissorPaperStone]

PaPaK\" post_id=\"1976187\" time=\"1589609197\" user_id=\"180862:

I think for most the choice is clear - go overseas than studying medicine in Singapore. NUS over NTU for wider network and stronger establishment

There is no need to be so mesmerised by the ranking of these UK universities. Good ranking of these schools could be due to the publications of the staff. It may not necessarily translate to good teachings.

My son said some of his friends have offers from ICL, UCL when they do not even make the grades to our local universities interviews. The BMAT of their local students are way below that of our students (referring to UCL, ICL). Imagine the standard of the cohorts in these schools.

It is widely known that many overseas medical graduates knowledge are behind our local graduates although their communication skills tends to be better.

[Chenies]

Many Singaporeans are good students in UK. My son has 1st class 2 years running. His good friend is 2nd top in cohort in his course at Cambridge.

[Chenies]

I think the kids have a good time there, get to travel a lot during their break and have less gruelling coursework compared to Singapore. If doing well in established universities impresses, then it’s rather rewarding after all. I think the children must decide for themselves. They must like the idea of being on their own etc.

[PaPaK]

US or UK med schools, they aren’t ranked higher for no reason. Some of their students may not be as strong as our muggers, but we won’t be asking ICL or Duke for collaboration if we are of the same level.

[lee_yl]

Neo Family\" post_id=\"1976143\" time=\"1589593568\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1976143 time=1589593568 user_id=185396]
For clinical research:
Based on QS university medicine ranking 2020:
Oxford (2)
Cambridge (3)
UCL (8)
Imperial College (10)
Edinburge (19)
King’s College (20)
NUS YLL (21)
Choose Cambridge

For practicing medicine locally:
NUS YLL has local advantages and wider networking.
Choose NUS YLL

For cost and ROI:
Cambridge 6 years
NUS YLL 5 years
Cambridge estimated cost $750K (tuition + accommodation)
NUS YLL estimated cost $150K (tuition)
Choose NUS YLL

You need to ask your child which career path he/she wants to pursue, clinical research or practising medicine.

Reputation ranking of university in medicine does not really matter so much since their medicine course is controlled by the respective health authorities/ministry to meet certain standards. Important thing is the medicine degree must be recognized by our MOH if you want to practise medicine in SG. You never know when your overseas medicine degree will become not recognized by MOH, so it carries certain risk to study in overseas.[/quote]

Though NUS YLL is ranked lower, but I do have a friend’s daughter who can’t get into NUS (very competitive!) but got in to one of those med schools you listed, ranked higher than NUS though. :scratchhead:

Go Cambridge need $750K vs NUS $150K? If not on scholarship, I probably won’t send my kids overseas if they can get NUS YLL.

I find if one is good, you will automatically earn the good reputation, be it from Cambridge or NUS, patients will come knocking on your door.

I think NUS YLL will be good if one considers practicing med after grad in SG given the networking. as for Cambridge, maybe good if stay there after grad for research work. Given the state of UK economy, the economic benefits of a practicing doctor in UK won’t be better than that in S’pore.