2020 P1 Registration Exercise for 2021 In-take

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nitrodrops\" post_id=\"1978728\" time=\"1590898227\" user_id=\"181252:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1978715\" time=\"1590896200\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1978715 time=1590896200 user_id=53606]In case anyone is considering the “withdrawal method” this year, the online registration system allows you to withdraw online, don’t need to email the school.

The only “difficult” thing is your spouse must subsequently login with their SingPass within the whatever time limit, in order to authorize the withdrawal.

This is similar to the same process for submitting the registration, so you would both already be familiar with this spouse double login thingy.

I suggest people go look at MOE’s FAQ website to familiarize themselves with this year’s online registration system.

In particular, if your NRIC address had been changed after a certain cut off date (go see FAQ), the SingPass system will not have this latest address in its database. U will need to submit your registration via a special online form that will be made available. Don’t blur blur use the wrong method as the distance category could be totally different from what u want.

And the FAQ provides the usual links to the pages that will be updated at the end of the day + at the end of the entire phase (which schools will be balloting). I see no indication at all that there will be any “live” data stream or even any (hourly) updates before the close of the day.

So be prepared that you can’t know the latest number in order to make a last-minute decision.

Thanks for sharing FAQ. very handy

How do I know that my online registration on the Primary One Internet System (P1-IS) has been withdrawn successfully?
Answer:
To complete withdrawal online, both parents are required to login to Primary One Internet System (P1-IS) to submit the withdrawal.[/quote]

Thanks zac's mum and nitrodrops for clarifying. I had referred to the \"Registration Matters\" and missed the \"P1-IS\" section of the FAQ. Edited my earlier posts.

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nitrodrops\" post_id=\"1978734\" time=\"1590899526\" user_id=\"181252:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1978732\" time=\"1590898635\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1978732 time=1590898635 user_id=53606]That’s what I assume too. Very likely we won’t know until the actual registration phases start. We’ll be counting on the phase 2A1 parents to tell us here on KSP, whether they can see any “live” counter inside the registration website/form.

can elaborate more?

Since registration is via MOE online portal. Shouldn't only MOE staff know live status?[/quote]

Knowing is one thing. Telling you is another.

In the past, applicants are reliant on school admin’s goodwill to tell them the breakdown.

[zac's mum]

nitrodrops\" post_id=\"1978734\" time=\"1590899526\" user_id=\"181252:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1978732\" time=\"1590898635\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1978732 time=1590898635 user_id=53606]That’s what I assume too. Very likely we won’t know until the actual registration phases start. We’ll be counting on the phase 2A1 parents to tell us here on KSP, whether they can see any “live” counter inside the registration website/form.

can elaborate more?

Since registration is via MOE online portal. Shouldn't only MOE staff know live status?[/quote]

U mean u want to call up MOE hotline to ask them the live statistics? I suppose that’s one way.

Btw, in the past, parents who couldn’t go down physically would call the individual schools to beg for the number of applicants & distance breakdown. But I think this year even the school staff would not know. Since there’s no school staff on duty for walk-in registrations any more. The entire registration process will be managed by MOE thru their centralized portal.

What I was referring to, was information visible by the portal users themselves. That’s what I meant by 2A1 parents would be the first to know (upon login) whether there’s any “live” counter within the form. People like me who aren’t registering this year, I doubt I can suka suka login just to kaypoh.

[KiasuAhTan]

I took a look at the FAQ it seems that only 2C is using P1-IS the rest is using online form.

[lot286]

I wonder how many SCs have in the past, were allocated spots by the government in schools not of their choice, after their kids failed at the phase 2C stage.


i wonder how they feel? were their kids given places far away from their home? were they happy there?

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lot286\" post_id=\"1978819\" time=\"1590934106\" user_id=\"136716:

I wonder how many SCs have in the past, were allocated spots by the government in schools not of their choice, after their kids failed at the phase 2C stage.

i wonder how they feel? were their kids given places far away from their home? were they happy there?

Firstly, after Phase 2C, there’s still another lifeline for SC at Phase 2CS. You will need to be balloted out of both phases before the gahment steps in. Furthermore, IIRC, you were previously allowed to approach schools with vacancies in between Phase 2CS and Phase 3 to register if you still don’t have a school at end Phase 2CS. Hence, the number of affected SC, i.e. allocated to any school, is actually quite small.

That said, I do know of several people who were allocated / found schools after failing both Phase 2C and 2CS. For some, it was due to ignorance (just apply lor, dunno must ballot) or limited options (next to popular school, alternative school nearby is also a school that needs to ballot in Phase 2CS). Others, it’s due to attitude (must go for branded and next-best branded school). Most, at the end of the day, came to accept what were given (most were usually allocated / found the nearest school with vacancies). Some liked their schools (eventually) while others hated it - that’s just like everyone else.

[nitrodrops]

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[quote=floppy post_id=1978700 time=1590889080 user_id=97579]

If that’s your plan, I don’t see why you should even register with SMPS. Going to be an unnecessary extra step and complicates matter.

Casuarina is definitely a shoo-in for SC < 1km.

Pasir Ris Primary is not confirmed a shoo-in for SC < 1km?

Missus still prefer SMPS, as it is affliated to St Margaret Secondary. But we stay in Pasir Ris. Going to be tough for DD travelling to SMPS (6yrs) + secondary (4 yrs).

Pasir Ris is confirmed, guaranteed, chopped ballot for SC < 1km. Hence, if you have decided that you want to join in the ballot for Pasir Ris (or if you want the safe option of Casurina), no need to complicate matters with registration / withdrawal for SMPS.[/quote]
Just trying to review the risks of taking this strategy

DD is SC

Phase2C - Try balloting Pasir Ris Primary (within 1km)
DD will be top priority in Phase2C as \"SC + within 1km\"

*Risk* - All Phase2C applicants are also \"SC + within 1km\"

Extracted from MOE website
Priority admission is given in this order:

Singapore Citizens (SC) living within 1km of the school.
SCs living between 1km and 2km of the school.
SCs living outside 2km of the school.
Permanent Residents (PR) living within 1km of the school.
PRs living between 1km and 2km of the school.
PRs living outside 2km of the school.


Phase2CS (last lifeline) - go for Casurina Primary (within 1km)
*Risk* - No vacancy left after phase2C. There are a few years where no vacancies left after phase2C

Any constructive feedbacks are much appreciated

[floppy]

nitrodrops\" post_id=\"1978838\" time=\"1590971998\" user_id=\"181252:

Just trying to review the risks of taking this strategy

DD is SC

Phase2C - Try balloting Pasir Ris Primary (within 1km)
DD will be top priority in Phase2C as \"SC + within 1km\"

*Risk* - All Phase2C applicants are also \"SC + within 1km\"

Extracted from MOE website
Priority admission is given in this order:

Singapore Citizens (SC) living within 1km of the school.
SCs living between 1km and 2km of the school.
SCs living outside 2km of the school.
Permanent Residents (PR) living within 1km of the school.
PRs living between 1km and 2km of the school.
PRs living outside 2km of the school.


Phase2CS (last lifeline) - go for Casurina Primary (within 1km)
*Risk* - No vacancy left after phase2C. There are a few years where no vacancies left after phase2C

Any constructive feedbacks are much appreciated

Nothing wrong. Just make sure you have at least another alternative option for Phase 2Cs

[Smurfete]

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floppy\" post_id=\"1978708\" time=\"1590893601\" user_id=\"97579:[quote=floppy post_id=1978708 time=1590893601 user_id=97579][quote=nitrodrops post_id=1978705 time=1590890736 user_id=181252]

Pasir Ris Primary is not confirmed a shoo-in for SC < 1km?

Missus still prefer SMPS, as it is affliated to St Margaret Secondary. But we stay in Pasir Ris. Going to be tough for DD travelling to SMPS (6yrs) + secondary (4 yrs).

I agree with floppy.

SMPS current site is at MacPherson which is still manageable from Pasir Ris. But the school will move back to Selegie on the hill top after the completion of the building. As for the affiliation, SMSS is in the west at Farrer Road. A young 12+ year old girl to travel on public transport for such long distance may not be a nice idea (of course, that’s only my view).

So if u thinking of applying and thn withdraw, there’s a risk that the withdrawal may be delayed due to system issues. Also since this year is all online, u may not know the numbers on live updates

[Blinglingzing]

Thanks @zac’s mum!


Sigh! A difficult decision made tougher by covid...

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