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    Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2020/2021

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      ScissorPaperStone
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      PaPaK\" post_id=\"1979733\" time=\"1591421298\" user_id=\"180862:

      You can go ahead and take such a risk. Duke-NUS is a completely different model.
      There is no risk. This year students will graduate in 2025. NTU Imperial College affiliation stays. So take advantage of a world class medical school curriculum with outstanding imperial teaching staff if you have the chance. Students in LKC are happy with the school. They are treated well.

      You get the best of both worlds... World class medical education, fused with local knowledge, diseases and local systems at a fraction of what you will get if you goto Imperial College London.

      UK medical education trains them to be a person. Local medical school trains them to be doctors. LKC is an excellent fusion.

      My son turned down PSC scholarship, YLL to accept LKC.

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        Neo Family
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        UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):

        1. Oxford (Traditional)
        2. Cambridge (Traditional)
        3. UCL (Integrated)
        4. Imperial College (Integrated)
        5. KCL (Integrated)
        6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
        7. Manchester (PBL)
        8. Glasgow (Integrated)
        9. QML (PBL)
        10. Birmingham (Integrated)
        11. Bristol (Integrated)
        12. Southampton (Integrated)
        13. Sheffield (Integrated)

        TBL is quite similar to PBL.
        If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.

        Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.

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          peterfamily
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          Both NUS and NTU study finish content in y1 and y2. (Theory) Y3-y5 work in hospitals. (Practical)


          Teaching style and curriculum very similar in NUS and NTU. I did my own research extensively,
          no difference.
          NUS got real dead body. NTU no real dead body.

          NTU connection with imperial useless because cannot go to UK be doctor after graduate from NTU.
          Only for show.

          NUS is more well known because it has been here for longer. NTU new.

          In terms of social networking, maybe NUS have advantage because it is older and have many years of seniors doctors and professors.

          In terms of advantage for consideration for specialisation, equal opportunities for all because medical doctors are accessed in housemanship year and their residency years after graduation.


          And specialisation training take place locally.
          Nus and ntu curriculum no difference.
          NTU and NUS are both good.
          No issues.

          We choose NUS only because:
          - cheaper school fees
          - convenient location to our house

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            ScissorPaperStone
            last edited by

            Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]
            UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
            1. Oxford (Traditional)
            2. Cambridge (Traditional)
            3. UCL (Integrated)
            4. Imperial College (Integrated)
            5. KCL (Integrated)
            6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
            7. Manchester (PBL)
            8. Glasgow (Integrated)
            9. QML (PBL)
            10. Birmingham (Integrated)
            11. Bristol (Integrated)
            12. Southampton (Integrated)
            13. Sheffield (Integrated)

            TBL is quite similar to PBL.
            If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.

            Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.[/quote]
            TBL is not similar to PBL.
            You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures 🙂

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              ScissorPaperStone
              last edited by

              Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]
              UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
              1. Oxford (Traditional)
              2. Cambridge (Traditional)
              3. UCL (Integrated)
              4. Imperial College (Integrated)
              5. KCL (Integrated)
              6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
              7. Manchester (PBL)
              8. Glasgow (Integrated)
              9. QML (PBL)
              10. Birmingham (Integrated)
              11. Bristol (Integrated)
              12. Southampton (Integrated)
              13. Sheffield (Integrated)

              TBL is quite similar to PBL.
              If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.

              Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.[/quote]
              TBL is not similar to PBL.
              You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures 🙂

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                ScissorPaperStone
                last edited by

                ScissorPaperStone\" post_id=\"1979824\" time=\"1591458716\" user_id=\"185514:

                Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
                1. Oxford (Traditional)
                2. Cambridge (Traditional)
                3. UCL (Integrated)
                4. Imperial College (Integrated)
                5. KCL (Integrated)
                6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
                7. Manchester (PBL)
                8. Glasgow (Integrated)
                9. QML (PBL)
                10. Birmingham (Integrated)
                11. Bristol (Integrated)
                12. Southampton (Integrated)
                13. Sheffield (Integrated)

                TBL is quite similar to PBL.
                If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.

                Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.
                TBL is NOT the same as PBL.

                TBL is an alternative to PBL that adopts a blended learning approach. TBL allows medical educators to provide students with resource effective, authentic experience of working in teams to solve real life clinical problems.

                Increasingly, the practice of medicine is both team-orientated, and inter-professional, requiring co-ordinated efforts from a number of disciplines to provide the best outcomes for patients. Changes in both curricula and pedagogy are needed to prepare students for demands of the increasingly complex healthcare systems

                TBL requires a whole different setup that is not possible with old medical school setups that you mentioned above.
                UK medical schools are now poor, old technology, old infrastructure. No budget for change of setup.

                Oxbridge have always been negatively commented for their traditional style of teachings. Imperial college has a cohort of 360. Impossible to do TBL although they have adopted elements of it in their revamped curriculum that was launched in the 2019 cohort.

                You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures 🙂

                Btw, YLL has tried to copy LKC TBL elements of teaching style. But because their cohort is huge at 280 and their setup is different, they could only adopt some elements. YLL has definitely adopted LKC ipad online learning. [/quote]

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                  peterfamily
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                  LKC do not have lectures at all because all their lectures are online.


                  So basically cannot see whether students skip

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                    Neo Family
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                    TBL means self study, no lecture. This is equivalent to skip lectures all the way.

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                      ScissorPaperStone
                      last edited by

                      peterfamily\" post_id=\"1979813\" time=\"1591453590\" user_id=\"184656:

                      Both NUS and NTU study finish content in y1 and y2. (Theory) Y3-y5 work in hospitals. (Practical)

                      Teaching style and curriculum very similar in NUS and NTU. I did my own research extensively,
                      no difference.
                      NUS got real dead body. NTU no real dead body.

                      NTU connection with imperial useless because cannot go to UK be doctor after graduate from NTU.
                      Only for show.

                      NUS is more well known because it has been here for longer. NTU new.

                      In terms of social networking, maybe NUS have advantage because it is older and have many years of seniors doctors and professors.

                      In terms of advantage for consideration for specialisation, equal opportunities for all because medical doctors are accessed in housemanship year and their residency years after graduation.


                      And specialisation training take place locally.
                      Nus and ntu curriculum no difference.
                      NTU and NUS are both good.
                      No issues.

                      We choose NUS only because:
                      - cheaper school fees
                      - convenient location to our house
                      Good, I see that you have changed your analysis 🙂

                      Your point that NTU connection with imperial is useless is definitely undermining the fact that Singapore government paid hundreds of millions to Imperial to establish the connection.

                      The standard of the MBBS awarded by Imperial and NTU is of the same high standard as that awarded by Imperial in London.. a BiG name in medical education.

                      This is what gives LKC students an edge when it comes to applying for future overseas posting especially in UK and probably in USA 🙂

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                        peterfamily
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                        “overseas posting”,


                        Maybe referring to 1 year fellowship/training programme ?

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