Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2020/2021
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Both NUS and NTU study finish content in y1 and y2. (Theory) Y3-y5 work in hospitals. (Practical)
Teaching style and curriculum very similar in NUS and NTU. I did my own research extensively,
no difference.
NUS got real dead body. NTU no real dead body.
NTU connection with imperial useless because cannot go to UK be doctor after graduate from NTU.
Only for show.
NUS is more well known because it has been here for longer. NTU new.
In terms of social networking, maybe NUS have advantage because it is older and have many years of seniors doctors and professors.
In terms of advantage for consideration for specialisation, equal opportunities for all because medical doctors are accessed in housemanship year and their residency years after graduation.
And specialisation training take place locally.
Nus and ntu curriculum no difference.
NTU and NUS are both good.
No issues.
We choose NUS only because:
- cheaper school fees
- convenient location to our house -
Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]
TBL is not similar to PBL.
UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
1. Oxford (Traditional)
2. Cambridge (Traditional)
3. UCL (Integrated)
4. Imperial College (Integrated)
5. KCL (Integrated)
6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
7. Manchester (PBL)
8. Glasgow (Integrated)
9. QML (PBL)
10. Birmingham (Integrated)
11. Bristol (Integrated)
12. Southampton (Integrated)
13. Sheffield (Integrated)
TBL is quite similar to PBL.
If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.
Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.[/quote]
You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures
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Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]
TBL is not similar to PBL.
UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
1. Oxford (Traditional)
2. Cambridge (Traditional)
3. UCL (Integrated)
4. Imperial College (Integrated)
5. KCL (Integrated)
6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
7. Manchester (PBL)
8. Glasgow (Integrated)
9. QML (PBL)
10. Birmingham (Integrated)
11. Bristol (Integrated)
12. Southampton (Integrated)
13. Sheffield (Integrated)
TBL is quite similar to PBL.
If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.
Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.[/quote]
You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures
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ScissorPaperStone\" post_id=\"1979824\" time=\"1591458716\" user_id=\"185514:
TBL is NOT the same as PBL.Neo Family\" post_id=\"1979799\" time=\"1591445681\" user_id=\"185396:[quote=\"Neo Family\" post_id=1979799 time=1591445681 user_id=185396]UK Medicine QS 2019 Ranking (Pedagogy):
1. Oxford (Traditional)
2. Cambridge (Traditional)
3. UCL (Integrated)
4. Imperial College (Integrated)
5. KCL (Integrated)
6. Edinburgh (Integrated)
7. Manchester (PBL)
8. Glasgow (Integrated)
9. QML (PBL)
10. Birmingham (Integrated)
11. Bristol (Integrated)
12. Southampton (Integrated)
13. Sheffield (Integrated)
TBL is quite similar to PBL.
If TBL is really good, most of the medical schools will adopt it. Even Imperial College don’t use TBL fully.
Personally still prefer traditional lectures and tutorials pedagogy which our JC students are familiar with.
TBL is an alternative to PBL that adopts a blended learning approach. TBL allows medical educators to provide students with resource effective, authentic experience of working in teams to solve real life clinical problems.
Increasingly, the practice of medicine is both team-orientated, and inter-professional, requiring co-ordinated efforts from a number of disciplines to provide the best outcomes for patients. Changes in both curricula and pedagogy are needed to prepare students for demands of the increasingly complex healthcare systems
TBL requires a whole different setup that is not possible with old medical school setups that you mentioned above.
UK medical schools are now poor, old technology, old infrastructure. No budget for change of setup.
Oxbridge have always been negatively commented for their traditional style of teachings. Imperial college has a cohort of 360. Impossible to do TBL although they have adopted elements of it in their revamped curriculum that was launched in the 2019 cohort.
You should ask YLL students how many % of their students skip lectures and why they skip the lectures
Btw, YLL has tried to copy LKC TBL elements of teaching style. But because their cohort is huge at 280 and their setup is different, they could only adopt some elements. YLL has definitely adopted LKC ipad online learning. [/quote] -
LKC do not have lectures at all because all their lectures are online.
So basically cannot see whether students skip -
TBL means self study, no lecture. This is equivalent to skip lectures all the way.
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peterfamily\" post_id=\"1979813\" time=\"1591453590\" user_id=\"184656:
Good, I see that you have changed your analysis
Both NUS and NTU study finish content in y1 and y2. (Theory) Y3-y5 work in hospitals. (Practical)
Teaching style and curriculum very similar in NUS and NTU. I did my own research extensively,
no difference.
NUS got real dead body. NTU no real dead body.
NTU connection with imperial useless because cannot go to UK be doctor after graduate from NTU.
Only for show.
NUS is more well known because it has been here for longer. NTU new.
In terms of social networking, maybe NUS have advantage because it is older and have many years of seniors doctors and professors.
In terms of advantage for consideration for specialisation, equal opportunities for all because medical doctors are accessed in housemanship year and their residency years after graduation.
And specialisation training take place locally.
Nus and ntu curriculum no difference.
NTU and NUS are both good.
No issues.
We choose NUS only because:
- cheaper school fees
- convenient location to our house
Your point that NTU connection with imperial is useless is definitely undermining the fact that Singapore government paid hundreds of millions to Imperial to establish the connection.
The standard of the MBBS awarded by Imperial and NTU is of the same high standard as that awarded by Imperial in London.. a BiG name in medical education.
This is what gives LKC students an edge when it comes to applying for future overseas posting especially in UK and probably in USA
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“overseas posting”,
Maybe referring to 1 year fellowship/training programme ? -
Maybe overseas fellowship programmes, NTU-Imperial name may help to boost your portfolio given it is well known globally.
NUS less well known in the western world,
does not have the reputation imperial has.
Both NUS NTU are A plus choice, no regrets for local medicine.
Both NUS and NTU medical education are geared towards working in Singapore. Tailored specially for singapore healthcare system, singapore diseases, singapore policies.
If u have MBBS in singapore and try to work in UK as doctor, u will have to compete with the local graduates. Uk hospitals will give priority to local UK doctor graduates. Just like sg hospital give priority to local sg doctor graduates.
Work overseas, direct imperial degree is better.If u want to work in UK.
NTU one is geared for local as well.
Wrong idea to go NTU for the sake of working overseas!!! -
The standard does not matter because NTU and NUS both preparing u to be a local doctor.
Why talk about imperial ?
Both become doctors.Both give u MBBS.
Medical Schools designed for the sake of producing doctors for the country.
Is like law school,Study locally study local law system.
Go uk study UK law, come back not compatible still need take conversion course.
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