2020 P1 Registration Exercise for 2021 In-take

[Fatte]

Lexy\" post_id=\"1989079\" time=\"1596455915\" user_id=\"12180:

Davischew\" post_id=\"1989078\" time=\"1596455528\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=Fatte post_id=1989077 time=1596455363 user_id=175592]

Nice list, thanks. Come to think of it, there is no reason for SCs to apply for these schools during Phase 2C. Even if no SC applies during 2C, there will still be 110 - 150 vacancies during 2CS at these schools - which, based on past trends, is more than sufficient for all SCs who don't make it to their preferred school during 2C.

In fact, the MOE has made it super easy for SCs to try their best for their most preferred schools, without any worry whatsoever of losing their spot in their backup 2CS school... even in the worst case :imcool: .

you will be surprise it is not for granted that they are available in 2CS, every year will be different, know your risk.

Don’t look at the number by itself. It doesn’t guarantee you a place. What is the difference is if the usual PR number is say 50, and now the limit is 40. The maximum difference is 10.

Imagine every SC adopt the same strategy, all go for preferred school and more disappointment and all go 2Cs together, ballot again?

A system can only do so much, human will try to out smart it, then outsmart themselves.[/quote]Hi Lexy. Let me clarify. This is not about taking more risk than before - actually the risk is much lesser. If we all wanted safety, then we will have much less balloting than we actually do. But let's admit it, the fact is people do take risks - given it's worth the reward (of getting into a highly regarded school).

So in previous years, if the risk of not getting through even the back-up school was x%, then this year the risk is much much lower (yes near-zero, in my opinion). SCs in these areas can now easily opt for their ideal / highly regarded schools during 2C - because there is near-zero chance (vs prior years) that PRs can take up 'too many' vacancies at 2C, given these strong PR limits imposed by the MOE above (in favour of SCs).

This will leave 110 - 150 seats for SCs (even if they don't make it during 2C) to easily get their back-up school during 2CS. The only risk in previous years was of PRs taking up too many seats in these schools, and now the MOE has eliminated that risk - making it easier than ever before for SCs to try for their most preferred schools.

[zac's mum]

I kinda agree with your logic.


But there are certain (albeit rare) situations where SCs would apply to these schools in phase 2C. Eg. If they are not <1km of any school. Sometimes they may have a school 1-2km but it’s too popular & ballots at <1km so no chance for them. In such cases, SCs should just apply straight to these schools in 2C.

Happened to one of my friends who lives near NUS. No school nearby and Qifa was a bit too risky. Didn’t like Pei Tong so chose BTPS and quite happy with life there now.

[zac's mum]

https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/vacancies-and-balloting/


MOE website updated on the first day of P1-IS for phase 2C. This update is a pleasant surprise. Previous years didn’t update until first day of walk-in registration.

[Davischew]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1989091\" time=\"1596460123\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1989091 time=1596460123 user_id=53606]
https://beta.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/vacancies-and-balloting/

MOE website updated on the first day of P1-IS for phase 2C. This update is a pleasant surprise. Previous years didn’t update until first day of walk-in registration.[/quote]

If this year also update on the first day of walk-in then means no update haha, so better change

[Jfxu181]

Dear All,

Could you check what are the difference between APP & Tur for below table?
Btw, any experts can advise for my conditions: both St Hilda's & JunYuan within 1KM, Poi Ching & Red Swastika within 1.5km, my plan 2C balloting for St Hilda's & 2Cs try JunYuan, don't know that is it best selection or not?

https://postimg.cc/34zQh2J1

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Fatte\" post_id=\"1989083\" time=\"1596457676\" user_id=\"175592:

Hi Lexy. Let me clarify. This is not about taking more risk than before - actually the risk is much lesser. If we all wanted safety, then we will have much less balloting than we actually do. But let's admit it, the fact is people do take risks - given it's worth the reward (of getting into a highly regarded school).

So in previous years, if the risk of not getting through even the back-up school was x%, then this year the risk is much much lower (yes near-zero, in my opinion). SCs in these areas can now easily opt for their ideal / highly regarded schools during 2C - because there is near-zero chance (vs prior years) that PRs can take up 'too many' vacancies at 2C, given these strong PR limits imposed by the MOE above (in favour of SCs).

This will leave 110 - 150 seats for SCs (even if they don't make it during 2C) to easily get their back-up school during 2CS. The only risk in previous years was of PRs taking up too many seats in these schools, and now the MOE has eliminated that risk - making it easier than ever before for SCs to try for their most preferred schools.

And that’s your end up with NYPS, or CFS in Yishun, or NCPS IN Sengkang, or MTS in Punggol, and many others. Preference aside, there are basically no risk in not applying for these schools. No other equivalent schools to share the oxygen in the neighborhood. As you alternative for 2C will still be available in 2CS, everyone is encouraged to try.

With BTPS even more unlikely to run out of places, expect to see even more people trying for the schools in the same neighborhood.

[zac's mum]

Jfxu181\" post_id=\"1989095\" time=\"1596461851\" user_id=\"91455:

Dear All,
Could you check what are the difference between APP & Tur for below table?
Btw, any experts can advise for my conditions: both St Hilda's & JunYuan within 1KM, Poi Ching & Red Swastika within 1.5km, my plan 2C balloting for St Hilda's & 2Cs try JunYuan, don't know that is it best selection or not?

https://postimg.cc/34zQh2J1

First things first: use One Map School Query to double check which schools you have near your address. It’s either <1km or 1-2km or >2km. You say 1.5km I know you’re using the wrong app liao.

APP means how many applied. TUR means how many % of seats taken up.

In your chart, Junyuan 100% all taken up at end of 2C. Therefore nothing left for anybody at 2CS. U better pick another school (Eg Angsana, Changkat, East Spring, Tampines North, Yumin...whichever is nearest) for 2CS.

[Davischew]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1989100\" time=\"1596462579\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1989100 time=1596462579 user_id=53606]

Jfxu181\" post_id=\"1989095\" time=\"1596461851\" user_id=\"91455:

Dear All,
Could you check what are the difference between APP & Tur for below table?
Btw, any experts can advise for my conditions: both St Hilda's & JunYuan within 1KM, Poi Ching & Red Swastika within 1.5km, my plan 2C balloting for St Hilda's & 2Cs try JunYuan, don't know that is it best selection or not?

https://postimg.cc/34zQh2J1

First things first: use One Map School Query to double check which schools you have near your address. It’s either <1km or 1-2km or >2km. You say 1.5km I know you’re using the wrong app liao.

APP means how many applied. TUR means how many % of seats taken up.

In your chart, Junyuan 100% all taken up at end of 2C. Therefore nothing left for anybody at 2CS. U better pick another school (Eg Angsana, Changkat, East Spring, Tampines North, Yumin...whichever is nearest) for 2CS.[/quote]

To add on abit.
APP means how many applied in that phase vs vacancies in that phase, as a percentage,
TUR means % take up since Phase 1, the whole available vacancies in that year.

[Jfxu181]

Thanks for quickly answer for both Davischew & zac’s mum, Yes, both St, hilda & JunYuan within 1KM, Poi Ching & Red Red Swastika between 1~2KM, for 2Cs should be wait for 2C completed is right, that time I should know JunYuan still have vacancies or not? if really cannot, can try both Yumin & East sprint(actually east sprint already merged to Jun Yuan, don’t know why showing this school?)

[Lexy]

Fatte\" post_id=\"1989083\" time=\"1596457676\" user_id=\"175592:

Lexy\" post_id=\"1989079\" time=\"1596455915\" user_id=\"12180:

[quote=Davischew post_id=1989078 time=1596455528 user_id=132882]
you will be surprise it is not for granted that they are available in 2CS, every year will be different, know your risk.

Don’t look at the number by itself. It doesn’t guarantee you a place. What is the difference is if the usual PR number is say 50, and now the limit is 40. The maximum difference is 10.

Imagine every SC adopt the same strategy, all go for preferred school and more disappointment and all go 2Cs together, ballot again?

A system can only do so much, human will try to out smart it, then outsmart themselves.

Hi Lexy. Let me clarify. This is not about taking more risk than before - actually the risk is much lesser. If we all wanted safety, then we will have much less balloting than we actually do. But let's admit it, the fact is people do take risks - given it's worth the reward (of getting into a highly regarded school).

So in previous years, if the risk of not getting through even the back-up school was x%, then this year the risk is much much lower (yes near-zero, in my opinion). SCs in these areas can now easily opt for their ideal / highly regarded schools during 2C - because there is near-zero chance (vs prior years) that PRs can take up 'too many' vacancies at 2C, given these strong PR limits imposed by the MOE above (in favour of SCs).

This will leave 110 - 150 seats for SCs (even if they don't make it during 2C) to easily get their back-up school during 2CS. The only risk in previous years was of PRs taking up too many seats in these schools, and now the MOE has eliminated that risk - making it easier than ever before for SCs to try for their most preferred schools.[/quote]I understand your point here. When MOE stated vast majority, we wont know for sure what is the concentration of the 10 schools. I kind of understand the point of some safety net in etc. But there is always a counter balance in this.

So the question is, when you feel safer int he choices in 2Cs, what would more parents will do in 2C? Is it in a way tilted towards what rosyth northland, southview will be? 4-5 times over subscribed?